Are BA planning to stop free water in ET?
May 2, 2024, 4:23 pm
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May 2, 2024, 6:09 pm
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Water has been provided as normal on all my recent flights, though on the LGW EuroFlyer they replaced the mini bottle with an even small plastic cup and when I asked for a refill later in the flight (when they came around to collect rubbish) I was told sorry there's none left!
May 2, 2024, 8:44 pm
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May 2, 2024, 10:46 pm
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I don’t think you really got the point of Darwin’s theory of evolution, but OK…
May 3, 2024, 12:17 am
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I am not one for water ( unless it is an ingredient in an alcoholic beverage), however, if they get rid of the bottles, they still have the cups ( which are not always provided at the moment to my recollection) plus all the waste generated from passengers buying (probably larger) bottles in DF....swings and roundabouts.
May 3, 2024, 1:03 am
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Aegean (A3) still offer hot food and a bar service. If BA were really aspiring to be premium they should spend some time flying A3.
Last edited by Swanhunter; May 3, 2024 at 1:58 am
May 3, 2024, 1:19 am
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I assume you have some sort of qualifications to make this assumption? Some basic research will tell you that most adults benefit greatly (even require) around 3-4 litres of water a day. The health benefits are clear and well documented. It's not a case of having a "swig every few minutes" but more a case of making sure you are always hydrated.
When I was in primary school there was no constant swigging from water bottles, we drank at break time which was up to an hour and a half apart, and nobody died of dehydration.
To the wider point, I think it is generally known that free-flowing water is not carried on a lot of planes and that it is wise that a bottle should be purchased/filled before boarding.
May 3, 2024, 3:14 am
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I assume you have some sort of qualifications to make this assertion and can quote this alleged "basic research"? There was some research which referred to taking in two litres of fluid per day, but most people quoting the survey miss out a very important qualifier, which is "most of which will be taken in through their food". And fluid includes all other drinks too. Some people incorrectly say "tea/coffee/soft drinks/alcohol are diuretic and don't count", which is nonsense. They count a little less than water, but they are not to be ignored.
When I was in primary school there was no constant swigging from water bottles, we drank at break time which was up to an hour and a half apart, and nobody died of dehydration.
To the wider point, I think it is generally known that free-flowing water is not carried on a lot of planes and that it is wise that a bottle should be purchased/filled before boarding.
When I was in primary school there was no constant swigging from water bottles, we drank at break time which was up to an hour and a half apart, and nobody died of dehydration.
To the wider point, I think it is generally known that free-flowing water is not carried on a lot of planes and that it is wise that a bottle should be purchased/filled before boarding.
If you have a look at the recommendations from the NHS, Mayo Clinic, NIH, as well as a plethora of other outlets and health-related publications you will see the 'basic' research. There are also the reasons as posted in this thread from others.
YMMV.
May 3, 2024, 3:29 am
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I know for some reason on this forum, an all BOB service is feared upon. But if a cup of water and a tiny biscuit is the reason you fly BA vs any other airline, then I'm extremely baffled that you can be so easily satisfied.
If the water and tiny biscuit et al was removed, it would allow space for a more consistent BOB offering that im sure many would appreciate of getting tha chance of having something more substantial. The space, weight and waste from this so called "complimentary service" is simply wasteful.
May 3, 2024, 4:10 am
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Handing out tiny cups of water and minuscule snacks only makes BA look cheap and penny-pinching. I'd prefer they got rid of the service completely on short-haul flights, and focused on making the Eurotraveller experience as good as it can be - including a consistent BOB offering that matches the promises made in the marketing guff and doesn't run out by row 11.
No-one expects free water and snacks on a train, no matter how long the journey, and passengers will soon get used to not having them on BA either.
No-one expects free water and snacks on a train, no matter how long the journey, and passengers will soon get used to not having them on BA either.
May 3, 2024, 4:14 am
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Handing out tiny cups of water and minuscule snacks only makes BA look cheap and penny-pinching. I'd prefer they got rid of the service completely on short-haul flights, and focused on making the Eurotraveller experience as good as it can be - including a consistent BOB offering that matches the promises made in the marketing guff and doesn't run out by row 11.
No-one expects free water and snacks on a train, no matter how long the journey, and passengers will soon get used to not having them on BA either.
No-one expects free water and snacks on a train, no matter how long the journey, and passengers will soon get used to not having them on BA either.
May 3, 2024, 4:20 am
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May 3, 2024, 5:47 am
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I am surprised how a small thing like a handing out a tiny bottle of water can give people the perception of a premium service. In much the same way we have people happy to part with an extra £100 to get an empty middle seat and a Tesco meal deal on a tray.
Rightly or wrongly, statusless Jane and John, will at some point decide to splurge a bit and pay extra for their usual EasyJet trip to Continental Europe and take the "premium" BA flights, and when they realise BA gave them exactly the same experience they'd have got with EasyJet, they might not be back on BA again too quickly.
Rightly or wrongly, statusless Jane and John, will at some point decide to splurge a bit and pay extra for their usual EasyJet trip to Continental Europe and take the "premium" BA flights, and when they realise BA gave them exactly the same experience they'd have got with EasyJet, they might not be back on BA again too quickly.
May 3, 2024, 7:29 am
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The thing is, I believe BA already offer something extra outside of this appalling mess off a complimentry / hybrid BOB service to the Euro Traveller customers.
They have a more generous hand-luggage included as standard. Executive club that gives them the option to potentially reduce future flight costs by collecting Avios and gain status for lounge access etc, free wifi for messaging, the option to pre-order duty free and high life cafe items on most routes.
Yes theres some improvements they need to make for sure, the main one i feel is to be more consistant. I honestly think the only way they can do this onboard, is to have one standard service type for Euro Traveller. Either all BOB or no BOB at all.
They have a more generous hand-luggage included as standard. Executive club that gives them the option to potentially reduce future flight costs by collecting Avios and gain status for lounge access etc, free wifi for messaging, the option to pre-order duty free and high life cafe items on most routes.
Yes theres some improvements they need to make for sure, the main one i feel is to be more consistant. I honestly think the only way they can do this onboard, is to have one standard service type for Euro Traveller. Either all BOB or no BOB at all.