Jimmie76

Yeah he may have meant “a third world class experience” which I understand should now be called a “developing country class experience”.

You missed FR air to breathe onboard.

Lefly

I am indeed missing FR... by purpose
I think my last flight with them has been in 2009. Also, I hate Charleroi.

PAL62V

I assume you have some sort of qualifications to make this assumption? Some basic research will tell you that most adults benefit greatly (even require) around 3-4 litres of water a day. The health benefits are clear and well documented. It's not a case of having a "swig every few minutes" but more a case of making sure you are always hydrated.

tuonopepper

Ah, I did wonder why I got half a plastic cup of water on my recent BUD - wasnt impressed, thisnis a backward step for sure.

bisonrav

And particularly because air travel is particularly dehydrating. Of course you can always pick up water (more often than not in a single use plastic bottle, which of course nixes BA's greenwashing) at the airport, and you didn't get a lot on BA Y anyway. It's really more about the symbolism I suspect, it's not a good look to offering half cups of water, the optics are terrible. Better to offer nothing at all really.

orbitmic

For now, AF and KL still offer a light meal in European Y (e.g. sandwich) and full bar. TK is more generous with food and less with drink. As noted by others, LH and LX is more basic (water, chocolate) and SK is water, tea or coffee.

orbitmic

And as I keep reminding people on this forum, please remember that your 2 hour flight may well be part of my 27 hour journey. Many of us are routinely connecting from long hauland dehydration is cumulative. I don't want to go into gross details but I have ended up with bleeding nose, dry throat and more more than occasionally after long series of flights - regular water drinking is the only thing that limits those effects.

Cw novice

It seems rather short sighted. The crew on the short hops have got the handing out of water and snack down to a fine art now. Much quicker than they used too. Which means that they can sell more from the BoB. Especially on 1 hour domestics.

Surely if this means less BoB sales then in true BA fashion their cutting their hand to spite their face

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corporate-wage-slave

I agree that some of the health and beauty stuff wouldn't survive a Scottish trial for witchery, in terms of academic rigour. It's also true that humans can survive and adapt very well to sub-optimal conditions, and you're unlikely to keel over if you don't have enough water on any given day. There again that is also true of smoking one cigarette, a quick vape, one glass of LPGS. But with all of this, there is a cumulative effect. The actual recommendation for men on some research papers is 3 litres, and 2.2. litres for women, up or down a bit depending on size and lifestyle. It's ok to be soft drinks, tea, coffee, there is also a lot of fluid in some food items such as soft fruit. But let me highlight two reasons for drinking fluids : kidney stones - if you drink only 0.5 litres of water in a day almost all of that is the minima for the kidneys to work, and at that level impurities will build up, calcifiy and at some stage can give men a bit of a go at the pains of childbirth. Drinking plenty of fluids is a key way to minimise this risk. Anyone who has been through this tends to become a water zealot. Secondly if you are a bit hydrated and something else hits you - food poisoning, COVID-19, bacterial infection - then a trivial problem can result in you ending up in Intensive Care very, very quickly. And people tend to dry out a lot when flying, in an environment where pathogens can rapidly pass from person to person.

chacor

And nothing on IB (fully buy on board), which makes it feel like it's an IAG decision to cut back! (IB will give you a cup of water if you ask, but you're meant to pay for the bottles – at 2,50€ a pop they aren't cheap either!) Always nice to get the small packaged jambon beurre sandwich from AF. I'm in ET later this month MAD-LHR and will see what the situation is, at least it's not with Euroflyer!

CKBA

I'm more than happy to use my own water bottle - if there is water available at/near the gate - it would save those small bottles.
As for wine - poured from the bottle or small bottles: had pouring back on March, but seems to have reverted to the small bottles in April (same TATL route).

dliesse

Not to mention that hydration is critical for those of us with other underlying medical conditions (such as diabetes).

guytp

O/T but drinking significant volumes of water for me during flights seems to personally have a huge impact on jet lag and headaches.

Quite happy to be in the many litres a day camp!

1Aturnleft

Today's LHR-BUD water and snack service in Traveller...



The savoury snack alternative was tiny packet of salt and vinegar flavour 'fish and chips' crisps.

bisonrav

The fish and chips snacks (which have nothing to do with fish and a lot to do with vinegar) are actually quite nice. But they don't half make you thirsty.