Feb 5, 2024, 2:21 am
Last edit by: crazy8534
BA FAQ : Tier Point collection changes | Executive Club | British Airways
What is happening?
British Airways are changing the TP collection year (also known as the BA Executive Club Year) so that everyone will have an expiry of 31st March going forward.
Their email states:
From next year, your Tier status will reset at the same time as everyone else's, meaning youll have the same Tier Point collection year as friends and family who are also members of the Executive Club.
In future, the Tier Point collection year will start on 1 April and end on 31 March every year. The change will be in place for all British Airways Executive Club Members starting from 1 April 2025.
How will this affect my current year?
You will earn and achieve/retain status as per the current set-up until the end of your current TP year.
e.g. If you have achieved or expect to achieve 1500TPs before the end of your current TP year (8th of a month) you will retain or be promoted to Gold status.
How will this affect the subsequent year?
Your next TP earning year will be SHORTER and will end on 31st March 2025.
You will have between the start of your next TP earning year and 31st March 2025 to earn the required number of TPs to attain or retain status.
e.g. if you are Gold you need to get 1500TPs between 8th October 2024 and 31st March 2025.
HOWEVER: BA will add all of the TPs that you earn between 1st April 2024 and the end of your current membership year (in the case above 8th October 2024) to next year's total.
This means that your target for TP earning in the year [Start of year something 8th of a month] 24- 31st March 25 will be your normal target (e.g. 1500TPs) MINUS whatever you earned from 1st April 2024 until the end of your current year.
Effectively, you should consider 1st April 2024 as the new start of your next TP earning year for TP collection purposes.
Status earned in the new (next) year will be valid until end of April 2026.
How will my current status card expiry date be affected?
BA have confirmed that it will NOT be affected.
i.e. if you have Silver status with a card expiry of 31st December 2025 (having already achieved silver renewal since 8th November 2023) this will not be affected.
If you subsequently drop to Bronze status then this will expire 30th April 2026.
Will I be able to double-dip (use the April 24 - TP collection year end date TPs twice) for Lifetime TPs?
No
Will I be able to double-dip for GUFs etc.?
I don't think we know yet.
If I earn TPs in the Amex TP offer between 1st April and 21st May 2024 (when the offer expires) will these count in the double-dip?
We believe that the answer to this is yes.
Has the 'grace' period for status reduced?
Yes.
Whereas it used to be until the end of the month following your year end (i.e. if you had a year ending 8th October you would be Gold with a card valid until 30th November) everyone will now have a card that is valid until 30th April.
Just under 2 months 'grace' has decreased to just under 1 month.
What about GGL status retention?
BA have confirmed that you must achieve 3000TP, during your SHORTENED/transition year (with the addition of the doubled TPs from April 1st 2024) in order to maintain continuous GGL membership. If you fail to do so your GGL status will expire at the date of card expiry from your last 8-8th year (even though this may be as late as 30th April 2026) and you would need to requalify at 5000TPs again.
This has particular implications for those who may be earning a significant number of TPs in February and March 2024 as these will not be counted into the SHORTENED/transition year.
Worked example (crazy8534)?
crazy8534's current status/TP earning year ends 8th June 2024.
He has already renewed GGL status so has a card that will expire with GGL status on 31st July 2025.
He will earn 2000TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024.
His TP year will reset on 8th June 2024 and he will have 0TPs.
BA will then add the TPs that he has earned between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024 to his current year total (but not his lifetime total), giving him 2000TPs for the year 24/25.
He will need to earn another 1000TPs between 8th June 2024 and 31st March 2025 to renew GGL.
If he renews GGL then his new status will last until 30th April 2026.
If he fails to renew GGL status before 31st March 2025 then it will still last until 31st July 2025 (as per his current card).
He will then fall to either Gold (if earned >1500TPs) or Silver (if earned <1500TPs) until 30th April 2026.
What is happening?
British Airways are changing the TP collection year (also known as the BA Executive Club Year) so that everyone will have an expiry of 31st March going forward.
Their email states:
From next year, your Tier status will reset at the same time as everyone else's, meaning youll have the same Tier Point collection year as friends and family who are also members of the Executive Club.
In future, the Tier Point collection year will start on 1 April and end on 31 March every year. The change will be in place for all British Airways Executive Club Members starting from 1 April 2025.
How will this affect my current year?
You will earn and achieve/retain status as per the current set-up until the end of your current TP year.
e.g. If you have achieved or expect to achieve 1500TPs before the end of your current TP year (8th of a month) you will retain or be promoted to Gold status.
How will this affect the subsequent year?
Your next TP earning year will be SHORTER and will end on 31st March 2025.
You will have between the start of your next TP earning year and 31st March 2025 to earn the required number of TPs to attain or retain status.
e.g. if you are Gold you need to get 1500TPs between 8th October 2024 and 31st March 2025.
HOWEVER: BA will add all of the TPs that you earn between 1st April 2024 and the end of your current membership year (in the case above 8th October 2024) to next year's total.
This means that your target for TP earning in the year [Start of year something 8th of a month] 24- 31st March 25 will be your normal target (e.g. 1500TPs) MINUS whatever you earned from 1st April 2024 until the end of your current year.
Effectively, you should consider 1st April 2024 as the new start of your next TP earning year for TP collection purposes.
Status earned in the new (next) year will be valid until end of April 2026.
How will my current status card expiry date be affected?
BA have confirmed that it will NOT be affected.
i.e. if you have Silver status with a card expiry of 31st December 2025 (having already achieved silver renewal since 8th November 2023) this will not be affected.
If you subsequently drop to Bronze status then this will expire 30th April 2026.
Will I be able to double-dip (use the April 24 - TP collection year end date TPs twice) for Lifetime TPs?
No
Will I be able to double-dip for GUFs etc.?
I don't think we know yet.
If I earn TPs in the Amex TP offer between 1st April and 21st May 2024 (when the offer expires) will these count in the double-dip?
We believe that the answer to this is yes.
Has the 'grace' period for status reduced?
Yes.
Whereas it used to be until the end of the month following your year end (i.e. if you had a year ending 8th October you would be Gold with a card valid until 30th November) everyone will now have a card that is valid until 30th April.
Just under 2 months 'grace' has decreased to just under 1 month.
What about GGL status retention?
BA have confirmed that you must achieve 3000TP, during your SHORTENED/transition year (with the addition of the doubled TPs from April 1st 2024) in order to maintain continuous GGL membership. If you fail to do so your GGL status will expire at the date of card expiry from your last 8-8th year (even though this may be as late as 30th April 2026) and you would need to requalify at 5000TPs again.
This has particular implications for those who may be earning a significant number of TPs in February and March 2024 as these will not be counted into the SHORTENED/transition year.
Worked example (crazy8534)?
crazy8534's current status/TP earning year ends 8th June 2024.
He has already renewed GGL status so has a card that will expire with GGL status on 31st July 2025.
He will earn 2000TPs between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024.
His TP year will reset on 8th June 2024 and he will have 0TPs.
BA will then add the TPs that he has earned between 1st April 2024 and 8th June 2024 to his current year total (but not his lifetime total), giving him 2000TPs for the year 24/25.
He will need to earn another 1000TPs between 8th June 2024 and 31st March 2025 to renew GGL.
If he renews GGL then his new status will last until 30th April 2026.
If he fails to renew GGL status before 31st March 2025 then it will still last until 31st July 2025 (as per his current card).
He will then fall to either Gold (if earned >1500TPs) or Silver (if earned <1500TPs) until 30th April 2026.
** BA ANNOUNCEMENT : all Tier Point collection years to start 1st April **
May 10, 2024, 3:57 am
#1081
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,379
Still, in 2024 it's such an easy piece of code I can't fathom why it would take so long. That is a 3-hour deliverable in terms of complexity where I work (big 5 tech company).
for each user in models.Users:
----- if user.tier_end_date == 8 may:
---------- points = models.Points.filter(user=user, date__gte=1 apr, date__lte=7 may)
---------- user.total_tier_points = sum(points) + user.total_tier_points
---------- user.save()
for each user in models.Users:
----- if user.tier_end_date == 8 may:
---------- points = models.Points.filter(user=user, date__gte=1 apr, date__lte=7 may)
---------- user.total_tier_points = sum(points) + user.total_tier_points
---------- user.save()
May 10, 2024, 4:07 am
#1082
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,186
This gives them an additional 2 weeks for partner points on flights the few days before your year end to get included in the adjustment without lots of manual intervention
expect the april 1st to may 8th points to credit in your short year as a one off transaction by may 22nd
Last edited by scottishpoet; May 10, 2024 at 5:29 am
May 10, 2024, 4:38 am
#1083
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: NCL
Programs: BA Exec Club: Gold HHons:Diamond FB:Ivory Accor:Plat Hertz: PC USA:GlobalEntry
Posts: 242
BA Gold last year, end of TP year was 8th April.
330 TPs earned in last qualifying year before reset to zero so assumed a drop to Silver.
Today both the App and BAEC website shows I'm still Gold until April 2025....?
330 TPs earned in last qualifying year before reset to zero so assumed a drop to Silver.
Today both the App and BAEC website shows I'm still Gold until April 2025....?
May 10, 2024, 5:02 am
#1084
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,186
you should have received and email from BA shortly after the new TP year started saying if you had re qualified or what your new status was. I got an email "Good new s about your BA account" and thinking I had been perhaps extended or moved to gold all iy said was that i had successfully renewed silver .
As an April 8th renewal I received that email April 11th.
May 10, 2024, 6:27 am
#1085
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Norn Iron
Posts: 250
Does that mean that under the new rules in the new system that from 1/4/25 until 1/12/25 if I get 1500 TP's I will be gold until 30/4/26 and for the following year until 30/4/27?
May 10, 2024, 11:14 am
#1086
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: East Anglia
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 178
Apologies if already answered. My year end was 8th May '24. I accrued 1540 TPs by last December so knew I would retain gold running through to the end of March '25 for the membership year and the end of June until card expiry. I flew a bit in April gaining 120 TPs so my total at renewal date was 1660. I presumed I would 'lose' the 1540 and carry over the 120 into the 24/25 year but my account shows all 1660 adjusted down and the balance now at zero. Might the 120 get credited at some subsequent point (as I believed they would be being gained in the transition period) or not? Thanks.
May 10, 2024, 12:40 pm
#1087
Join Date: May 2019
Location: FL390 or the iron way
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 1,885
Apologies if already answered. My year end was 8th May '24. I accrued 1540 TPs by last December so knew I would retain gold running through to the end of March '25 for the membership year and the end of June until card expiry. I flew a bit in April gaining 120 TPs so my total at renewal date was 1660. I presumed I would 'lose' the 1540 and carry over the 120 into the 24/25 year but my account shows all 1660 adjusted down and the balance now at zero. Might the 120 get credited at some subsequent point (as I believed they would be being gained in the transition period) or not? Thanks.
May 10, 2024, 1:29 pm
#1088
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,186
If you attain gold by 1st dev 25 then yes, you have gold for the rest of the current year and the whole of the next year, son30 april 27. Not really a new system, it is exactly the same, just the year start and end dates have changed. You are effectively in the new dates now, collection year april 1 24 to march 31 25
May 10, 2024, 1:34 pm
#1089
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,186
Apologies if already answered. My year end was 8th May '24. I accrued 1540 TPs by last December so knew I would retain gold running through to the end of March '25 for the membership year and the end of June until card expiry. I flew a bit in April gaining 120 TPs so my total at renewal date was 1660. I presumed I would 'lose' the 1540 and carry over the 120 into the 24/25 year but my account shows all 1660 adjusted down and the balance now at zero. Might the 120 get credited at some subsequent point (as I believed they would be being gained in the transition period) or not? Thanks.
Last edited by scottishpoet; May 12, 2024 at 9:27 am
May 12, 2024, 9:07 am
#1090
Join Date: Jan 2007
Programs: BAEC Gold, Qatar, Iberia
Posts: 13
Are there still no updates on how GUFs are going to be allocated during the transition? I'm about to hit 2500 and 3500 TP within the next month on my previous collection year (September reset date) and under the new Apr-Mar system it'll be 2500 during June and 3500 during July/Aug (all within my crossover dates)
May 12, 2024, 10:47 am
#1091
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 2,468
Are there still no updates on how GUFs are going to be allocated during the transition? I'm about to hit 2500 and 3500 TP within the next month on my previous collection year (September reset date) and under the new Apr-Mar system it'll be 2500 during June and 3500 during July/Aug (all within my crossover dates)
May 12, 2024, 12:05 pm
#1092
Join Date: Jan 2007
Programs: BAEC Gold, Qatar, Iberia
Posts: 13
No announcement but my hunch is that these will be awarded as normal. Given that TPs are being added to the start of the new year, it would be overly complicated to have two clocks running - one for your new TP year to April including the TP adjustment and a separate one for GUF vouchers.
May 14, 2024, 10:30 am
#1093
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 507
Slightly odd call with BA just now about when 'adjusted' TPs will get added.
Back story is that I did a 300TP trip on May 3, which credited to my account on 9 May (with my year end being 8 May). However, on my account this shows as 0 (zero) TPs for the flights - despite the avios being correctly awarded.
It turns out that these points have been added to my account and total for the year up to 8 May 2024 (and to the LT total) but won't show in my exec acct as they'd be "credited and removed" with the reset. [It does make sense, honestly]
That's all fine but according to the agent any TPs awarded from 1 April 2024 to 8 May 2024 will only be added 'back" (their word) at the end of March 2025.
If that's true then the target/countdown number is going to be wrong for me the whole year (as I did 600 TPs total in that period). I hope the advisor was wrong and at some point (ie once a month) they do a sweep of the accounts to show the TPs earned to date. Edited to add that I just read scottishpoet post up thread, so fingers crossed! [But you would have thought they would have briefed the agents better]
Back story is that I did a 300TP trip on May 3, which credited to my account on 9 May (with my year end being 8 May). However, on my account this shows as 0 (zero) TPs for the flights - despite the avios being correctly awarded.
It turns out that these points have been added to my account and total for the year up to 8 May 2024 (and to the LT total) but won't show in my exec acct as they'd be "credited and removed" with the reset. [It does make sense, honestly]
That's all fine but according to the agent any TPs awarded from 1 April 2024 to 8 May 2024 will only be added 'back" (their word) at the end of March 2025.
If that's true then the target/countdown number is going to be wrong for me the whole year (as I did 600 TPs total in that period). I hope the advisor was wrong and at some point (ie once a month) they do a sweep of the accounts to show the TPs earned to date. Edited to add that I just read scottishpoet post up thread, so fingers crossed! [But you would have thought they would have briefed the agents better]
May 14, 2024, 10:36 am
#1094
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Krakow
Programs: BAEC Silver, Miles and More(FTL), IHG(Platinum), Accor, HHonors(Diamond), SPG, Hertz Five Star
Posts: 6,186
Slightly odd call with BA just now about when 'adjusted' TPs will get added.
Back story is that I did a 300TP trip on May 3, which credited to my account on 9 May (with my year end being 8 May). However, on my account this shows as 0 (zero) TPs for the flights - despite the avios being correctly awarded.
It turns out that these points have been added to my account and total for the year up to 8 May 2024 (and to the LT total) but won't show in my exec acct as they'd be "credited and removed" with the reset. [It does make sense, honestly]
That's all fine but according to the agent any TPs awarded from 1 April 2024 to 8 May 2024 will only be added 'back" (their word) at the end of March 2025.
If that's true then the target/countdown number is going to be wrong for me the whole year (as I did 600 TPs total in that period). I hope the advisor was wrong and at some point (ie once a month) they do a sweep of the accounts to show the TPs earned to date. Edited to add that I just read scottishpoet post up thread, so fingers crossed! [But you would have thought they would have briefed the agents better]
Back story is that I did a 300TP trip on May 3, which credited to my account on 9 May (with my year end being 8 May). However, on my account this shows as 0 (zero) TPs for the flights - despite the avios being correctly awarded.
It turns out that these points have been added to my account and total for the year up to 8 May 2024 (and to the LT total) but won't show in my exec acct as they'd be "credited and removed" with the reset. [It does make sense, honestly]
That's all fine but according to the agent any TPs awarded from 1 April 2024 to 8 May 2024 will only be added 'back" (their word) at the end of March 2025.
If that's true then the target/countdown number is going to be wrong for me the whole year (as I did 600 TPs total in that period). I hope the advisor was wrong and at some point (ie once a month) they do a sweep of the accounts to show the TPs earned to date. Edited to add that I just read scottishpoet post up thread, so fingers crossed! [But you would have thought they would have briefed the agents better]
The agent is wrong
You will get the points credited later in May
i believe other people in this thread who were april 8th end dates saw it credit correctly, 0 points intially as per the year end then included in the credit 14 days after the end of their year.
Eg https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36174440-post1039.html
1 report of a partner credit that missed the cut but was corrected.
You were sent an email around April 21st that said
We're contacting you with more information on the changes announced to your Tier Point Collection Year, and what this means for you.
This change will move all Executive Members onto the same annual collection period of 1 April to 31 March. When your next collection period begins on 9 May 2024 it will end on 31 March 2025 instead of 8 May 2025.
This is a shorter time for you to collect Tier Points, so well add a Tier Point Adjustment to your account, consisting of any Tier Points earnt from 1 April 2024 to 8 May 2024. This Tier Point Adjustment will be added within 14 days of 8 May 2024 and the Tier status earned will remain until 30 April 2026.
To view your Tier Points earned at any time, log into your British Airways Executive Club account and view your progress. This shows how many Tier Points youve earned in your current year, as well as your Tier Point Collection Year end date.
Last edited by scottishpoet; May 14, 2024 at 10:43 am
May 15, 2024, 1:36 am
#1095
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold, *A Silver, HH Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 507
Thanks scottishpoet for the fulsome reply. Mind at rest. I think I was just completely thrown by the zero TPs on the four partner flights, which looked like an error.
I hope others read the thread more carefully than I!
I hope others read the thread more carefully than I!