Jul 18, 2023, 3:39 am
Last edit by: zoombee
Were changing the way you collect Avios.
As an Executive Club Member, when you book a flight from 18 October 2023 youll collect Avios on British Airways-marketed flights based on the price of your ticket instead of the distance you fly.
This will make it easier to work out how many Avios you'll get and a typical flight could now give you more Avios. So before you know it, youll have enough to use towards that next trip.
Bronze Members collect 7 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
Silver Members collect 8 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
Gold Members collect 9 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
FAQ
https://www.britishairways.com/en-qa...anges#currency
What are the changes being made to the way I collect Avios?
On 18 July 2023 British Airways announced a change to the way our members earn Avios when they fly. From 18 October 2023 Executive Club members will collect Avios based on the total eligible spend for their tickets and add-ons, instead of the current distance-based earning model.
Why is the Executive Club changing the way they award Avios?
These changes introduce new ways to collect Avios and simplify the way we reward our Executive Club members when they fly.
When do the changes come into effect?
The changes will come into effect from 18 October 2023. Any tickets issued from this date will collect Avios based on total eligible spend.
What can I collect Avios on as part of my trip?
Any tickets issued or qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on total eligible spend. We will award Avios for every pound (GBP) or euro (EUR) spent on:
Yes, we will award the following Avios for British Airways-marketed flights:
If I already have a flight booked for travel after 18 October 2023, will the way I collect Avios change?
Any flight tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
You will still be able to collect Avios for any qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 based on total eligible spend, regardless of when you made your flight booking.
If I make a booking to travel before 18 October 2023 and then make a change to travel after this date, what Avios will I collect?
Any tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If I make a booking before 18 October 2023 for travel after this date, and place it on hold, what Avios will I collect?
Any flight tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If you have a booking on hold (including flights held for a fee through BA.com) and your flight tickets are issued on or after 18 October 2023, the Avios you collect will be based on total eligible spend.
If I change a booking made after the 18 October 2023, if the new price is higher or lower, what Avios will I collect?
Any tickets or qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on total eligible spend.
If you make any changes to your trip that require your ticket to be re-priced, the Avios you collect will be based on the total eligible spend for your updated ticket.
Are there any changes to collecting Tier Points?
No, we are changing the way members collect Avios when they fly. There is no change to the way you collect Tier Points or the number of Tier Points needed to reach the Executive Club membership levels.
Are there any changes to the amount of Avios needed to make a reward booking?
No, we are changing the way members collect Avios when they fly. There are no changes to the options available to spend Avios, or the amount of Avios needed to make a reward booking.
If Ive booked a reward ticket, can I still collect Avios on pre-purchased seats, bags and promotional upgrades?
Yes, any qualifying add-ons purchased on a reward booking from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the total eligible spend.
Do I collect Avios on a cash ticket discounted with Avios?
Yes, members who use Avios to part-pay the price of a cash ticket will continue to collect Avios based on the full, total eligible spend for the booking, before the discount is applied.
Additionally, members who choose to part-pay or pay in full using Avios for pre-paid seating, baggage or airport promotional upgrades will now also be eligible to collect Avios based on the total eligible spend and Executive Club Tier level.
Do I collect Avios on a cash ticket where a discount or voucher code has been applied?
Yes, members who apply a discount or voucher code to their booking, will collect Avios on the total eligible spend after the discounted amount has been applied.
Any trip booked using an eVoucher issued as part of our Book With Confidence policy during the Covid-19 pandemic, will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If I purchase a ticket in another currency, how do I know what I will collect?
For tickets purchased in another currency, the total eligible spend will be converted to GBP using the IATA 5-day exchange rate applicable on the date the ticket was issued or the add-on was purchased. Your Avios will be calculated using this converted amount.
After 18 October 2023, will there be any exceptions when the new way of collecting Avios is applied to flights marketed by British Airways?
Yes, some tickets where the fare paid isnt disclosed or isnt available, including flights booked as part of a British Airways Holidays package, will continue collecting Avios based on a percentage of how many miles you fly and the cabin you fly in (no minimum Avios apply).
Executive Club Bronze, Silver and Gold members will collect 15%, 30% or 50% extra Avios on top of the base flight award.
Will there be any changes to how I collect Avios on flights marketed by oneworld or other partner airlines?
Note, this question was changed on 14th July 2024 as it was not correct (out of date most likely). The rules at time of writing indicate that BA, IB and AA marketed flights, as well as transatlantic flights marketed by AY but operated by BA, will earn based on spend except BA Holidays bookings and some non-advertised fares (eg some travel agency bookings). Other OW carriers earn based on distance but most no longer have an "Avios Tier bonus" (bonus avios due to status), it's just JL international flights (25%, 50% & 100%) and AY (10%, 15% & 25%).
How will I collect Avios on bookings where there is a combination of British Airways and partner airline marketed flights?
Flights marketed by British Airways or a partner airline that awards based on total eligible spend will collect Avios based on the pro-rated ticket price for those flights.
Flights marketed by other air partners will collect Avios, where applicable, based on how far you fly, the cabin you fly in and your Executive Club Tier level.
How can I see how many Avios I will collect on my flights?
You will be able to see the amount of Avios your trip will collect, including any eligible add-ons, in the Manage My Booking section of ba.com.
For journeys that are eligible to part-pay with Avios, you will also be able to see how many Avios you will collect on the flight summary page, before you pay for your booking.
For tickets where the fare isnt disclosed, and for flights marketed by other oneworld or air partners, members will continue to collect Avios based on a percentage of how many miles you fly and the cabin you fly in. Check how many Avios you will collect on partner airlines.
If I pay for a booking for someone else, will I collect the Avios or the person who is travelling?
Executive Club members will collect Avios for the segments they fly themselves, regardless of who has purchased the ticket.
When will the Avios be credited to my account?
The same as today, up to three days after the flight or eligible add-on has been used. Air partners can take up to seven days to credit.
How do I claim missing Avios?
Claiming missing Avios will follow the same process as today in ba.com, under Manage my Account. To claim for any missing flights or eligible add-ons, simply enter the ticket number for your flight, which can be found on your e-ticket receipt.
As an Executive Club Member, when you book a flight from 18 October 2023 youll collect Avios on British Airways-marketed flights based on the price of your ticket instead of the distance you fly.
This will make it easier to work out how many Avios you'll get and a typical flight could now give you more Avios. So before you know it, youll have enough to use towards that next trip.
You'll collect Avios on:
- The base fare and any carrier-imposed charges
- Cabin upgrades
- Seats that you pre-book and pay for
- Additional bags
The total you spend is then multiplied according to your tier:
Blue Members collect 6 Avios per pound (GBP) spentBronze Members collect 7 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
Silver Members collect 8 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
Gold Members collect 9 Avios per pound (GBP) spent
FAQ
https://www.britishairways.com/en-qa...anges#currency
What are the changes being made to the way I collect Avios?
On 18 July 2023 British Airways announced a change to the way our members earn Avios when they fly. From 18 October 2023 Executive Club members will collect Avios based on the total eligible spend for their tickets and add-ons, instead of the current distance-based earning model.
Why is the Executive Club changing the way they award Avios?
These changes introduce new ways to collect Avios and simplify the way we reward our Executive Club members when they fly.
When do the changes come into effect?
The changes will come into effect from 18 October 2023. Any tickets issued from this date will collect Avios based on total eligible spend.
What can I collect Avios on as part of my trip?
Any tickets issued or qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on total eligible spend. We will award Avios for every pound (GBP) or euro (EUR) spent on:
- The base fare on any commercial British Airways and Iberia marketed flights
- The Carrier Imposed Charges (YQ) on any commercial British Airways and Iberia marketed flights
- Cabin upgrades made online or at the airport on any British Airways or Iberia marketed and operated flights
- Additional Baggage pre-purchased online, though our Contact Centres or at the airport on any British Airways or Iberia marketed and operated flights
- Pre-paid seating charges on any British Airways or Iberia marketed and operated flights
Yes, we will award the following Avios for British Airways-marketed flights:
- Blue members will receive 6 Avios per qualifying Pound () spent
- Bronze members will receive 7 Avios per qualifying Pound () spent
- Silver members will receive 8 Avios per qualifying Pound () spent
- Gold members will receive 9 Avios per qualifying Pound () spent
- Blue members will receive 5 Avios per qualifying Euro () spent
- Bronze members will receive 6 Avios per qualifying Euro () spent
- Silver members will receive 7 Avios per qualifying Euro () spent
- Gold members will receive 8 Avios per qualifying Euro () spent
If I already have a flight booked for travel after 18 October 2023, will the way I collect Avios change?
Any flight tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
You will still be able to collect Avios for any qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 based on total eligible spend, regardless of when you made your flight booking.
If I make a booking to travel before 18 October 2023 and then make a change to travel after this date, what Avios will I collect?
Any tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If I make a booking before 18 October 2023 for travel after this date, and place it on hold, what Avios will I collect?
Any flight tickets issued prior to 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If you have a booking on hold (including flights held for a fee through BA.com) and your flight tickets are issued on or after 18 October 2023, the Avios you collect will be based on total eligible spend.
If I change a booking made after the 18 October 2023, if the new price is higher or lower, what Avios will I collect?
Any tickets or qualifying add-ons purchased from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on total eligible spend.
If you make any changes to your trip that require your ticket to be re-priced, the Avios you collect will be based on the total eligible spend for your updated ticket.
Are there any changes to collecting Tier Points?
No, we are changing the way members collect Avios when they fly. There is no change to the way you collect Tier Points or the number of Tier Points needed to reach the Executive Club membership levels.
Are there any changes to the amount of Avios needed to make a reward booking?
No, we are changing the way members collect Avios when they fly. There are no changes to the options available to spend Avios, or the amount of Avios needed to make a reward booking.
If Ive booked a reward ticket, can I still collect Avios on pre-purchased seats, bags and promotional upgrades?
Yes, any qualifying add-ons purchased on a reward booking from 18 October 2023 will collect Avios based on the total eligible spend.
Do I collect Avios on a cash ticket discounted with Avios?
Yes, members who use Avios to part-pay the price of a cash ticket will continue to collect Avios based on the full, total eligible spend for the booking, before the discount is applied.
Additionally, members who choose to part-pay or pay in full using Avios for pre-paid seating, baggage or airport promotional upgrades will now also be eligible to collect Avios based on the total eligible spend and Executive Club Tier level.
Do I collect Avios on a cash ticket where a discount or voucher code has been applied?
Yes, members who apply a discount or voucher code to their booking, will collect Avios on the total eligible spend after the discounted amount has been applied.
Any trip booked using an eVoucher issued as part of our Book With Confidence policy during the Covid-19 pandemic, will collect Avios based on the current distance-based awarding table.
If I purchase a ticket in another currency, how do I know what I will collect?
For tickets purchased in another currency, the total eligible spend will be converted to GBP using the IATA 5-day exchange rate applicable on the date the ticket was issued or the add-on was purchased. Your Avios will be calculated using this converted amount.
After 18 October 2023, will there be any exceptions when the new way of collecting Avios is applied to flights marketed by British Airways?
Yes, some tickets where the fare paid isnt disclosed or isnt available, including flights booked as part of a British Airways Holidays package, will continue collecting Avios based on a percentage of how many miles you fly and the cabin you fly in (no minimum Avios apply).
Executive Club Bronze, Silver and Gold members will collect 15%, 30% or 50% extra Avios on top of the base flight award.
Will there be any changes to how I collect Avios on flights marketed by oneworld or other partner airlines?
Note, this question was changed on 14th July 2024 as it was not correct (out of date most likely). The rules at time of writing indicate that BA, IB and AA marketed flights, as well as transatlantic flights marketed by AY but operated by BA, will earn based on spend except BA Holidays bookings and some non-advertised fares (eg some travel agency bookings). Other OW carriers earn based on distance but most no longer have an "Avios Tier bonus" (bonus avios due to status), it's just JL international flights (25%, 50% & 100%) and AY (10%, 15% & 25%).
How will I collect Avios on bookings where there is a combination of British Airways and partner airline marketed flights?
Flights marketed by British Airways or a partner airline that awards based on total eligible spend will collect Avios based on the pro-rated ticket price for those flights.
Flights marketed by other air partners will collect Avios, where applicable, based on how far you fly, the cabin you fly in and your Executive Club Tier level.
How can I see how many Avios I will collect on my flights?
You will be able to see the amount of Avios your trip will collect, including any eligible add-ons, in the Manage My Booking section of ba.com.
For journeys that are eligible to part-pay with Avios, you will also be able to see how many Avios you will collect on the flight summary page, before you pay for your booking.
For tickets where the fare isnt disclosed, and for flights marketed by other oneworld or air partners, members will continue to collect Avios based on a percentage of how many miles you fly and the cabin you fly in. Check how many Avios you will collect on partner airlines.
If I pay for a booking for someone else, will I collect the Avios or the person who is travelling?
Executive Club members will collect Avios for the segments they fly themselves, regardless of who has purchased the ticket.
When will the Avios be credited to my account?
The same as today, up to three days after the flight or eligible add-on has been used. Air partners can take up to seven days to credit.
How do I claim missing Avios?
Claiming missing Avios will follow the same process as today in ba.com, under Manage my Account. To claim for any missing flights or eligible add-ons, simply enter the ticket number for your flight, which can be found on your e-ticket receipt.
Avios Earnings Change - Based on Spent - booked after 18 Oct 23 (TPs unchanged)
Mar 29, 2024 | 6:07 am
#826
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
But the main point of the question is if I can somehow purchase the ticket to ensure distance-based credit of the miles.
Mar 29, 2024 | 6:19 am
#827
Join Date: May 2019
Location: FL390 or the iron way
Programs: BA GGL, SAS EBG
Posts: 2,561
Im about to fly a number of US domestic flights in AA F. I read that AA flights now also credit BAEC based on (GBP) spend. Most likely my customer will be purchasing these tickets on my behalf in the US with USD. Most tickets are in D class or above due to availability and flexibility, will these also be credited revenue-based? How can I get around that? Is it even ok with GDPR that US purchase information for an EU-based flyer is passed across the continents?
Some tickets will still earn distance-based Avios, e.g. BA Holidays bookings. Generally these are ones where the fare is not displayed to the passenger when booking or where it's a non-public fare.
I would be very surprised if BA were doing this in breach of GDPR. There will no doubt be a "safe harbour" type agreement that makes the data transfer lawful, otherwise you couldn't book any AA flights as a UK/EU citizen/resident for example.
Mar 29, 2024 | 6:27 am
#828
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
The default position is now that flights booked under an AA, BA or IB code will earn revenue-based Avios if credited to BAEC. The booking class or operating airline are both irrelevant in this respect.
Some tickets will still earn distance-based Avios, e.g. BA Holidays bookings. Generally these are ones where the fare is not displayed to the passenger when booking or where it's a non-public fare.
I would be very surprised if BA were doing this in breach of GDPR. There will no doubt be a "safe harbour" type agreement that makes the data transfer lawful, otherwise you couldn't book any AA flights as a UK/EU citizen/resident for example.
Some tickets will still earn distance-based Avios, e.g. BA Holidays bookings. Generally these are ones where the fare is not displayed to the passenger when booking or where it's a non-public fare.
I would be very surprised if BA were doing this in breach of GDPR. There will no doubt be a "safe harbour" type agreement that makes the data transfer lawful, otherwise you couldn't book any AA flights as a UK/EU citizen/resident for example.
Mar 29, 2024 | 6:32 am
#829
Join Date: May 2019
Location: FL390 or the iron way
Programs: BA GGL, SAS EBG
Posts: 2,561
Booking a BA Holiday is, AFAIK, the only guaranteed way of earning distance-based Avios. Of course that's unlikely to be possible for an internal US journey as they tend to only sell BA fares, which wouldn't exist for such city pairs.
Mar 30, 2024 | 6:33 am
#831
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
I have a flight next week FAO-LHR-ATL in ET/WT+ which was booked prior to the changes. I just noticed that BA have switched in DAT for the feeder as well as seat shifting Mrs Tafflyer and myself to 2 random seats right at the back of the bus. I’m really pi**ed off about this because I assigned us exit row seats months ago and received no info from BA at all.
I know I can make a fuss and be switched to another BA service, but if I do this, will I then only receive Avios under the new system? The FAQ for the new system states that if the ticket gets reissued, new Avios will apply.
Edit: I’ve seen UUA is available for that sector, would that retain original earning levels?
I know I can make a fuss and be switched to another BA service, but if I do this, will I then only receive Avios under the new system? The FAQ for the new system states that if the ticket gets reissued, new Avios will apply.
Edit: I’ve seen UUA is available for that sector, would that retain original earning levels?
Apr 1, 2024 | 5:07 am
#832
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
I have a flight next week FAO-LHR-ATL in ET/WT+ which was booked prior to the changes. I just noticed that BA have switched in DAT for the feeder as well as seat shifting Mrs Tafflyer and myself to 2 random seats right at the back of the bus. Im really pi**ed off about this because I assigned us exit row seats months ago and received no info from BA at all.
I know I can make a fuss and be switched to another BA service, but if I do this, will I then only receive Avios under the new system? The FAQ for the new system states that if the ticket gets reissued, new Avios will apply.
Edit: Ive seen UUA is available for that sector, would that retain original earning levels?
I know I can make a fuss and be switched to another BA service, but if I do this, will I then only receive Avios under the new system? The FAQ for the new system states that if the ticket gets reissued, new Avios will apply.
Edit: Ive seen UUA is available for that sector, would that retain original earning levels?
Equally, if I UUA one sector, would that also cause the loss?
Apr 1, 2024 | 7:02 am
#833
Join Date: Nov 2023
Programs: BAEC GGLfL
Posts: 747
For what it is worth, I recently changed a AY operated flight for a BA operated one. That was a straight revalidation and I got the pre-18 Oct 2023 Avios award.
I think if you UUA, that will cause a ticket reissue. I have no experience, but that might bring you into the new regime.
I think if you UUA, that will cause a ticket reissue. I have no experience, but that might bring you into the new regime.
Apr 1, 2024 | 10:00 am
#834
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: E14, LON
Programs: Virtuoso TA; BAEC Gold; Hilton Honors Diamond; WoH Explorist
Posts: 255
Ive had (1) a change that required a new ticket number - changed from old earnings to new earnings; and (2) a change that just needed a ticket revalidation - stayed at old earnings rate.
Seeing the old earnings rate just post for an LHR-LAX in a very cheap I fare does remind you quite how huge the difference is!
Seeing the old earnings rate just post for an LHR-LAX in a very cheap I fare does remind you quite how huge the difference is!
Apr 1, 2024 | 10:28 am
#835
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
Yes, so the way I understand it, and I asked this in another thread, is that a revalidation preserves the higher earning and a reissue switches the whole ticket to the new earnings method. Not really fair in all cases, but hey. The problem is that the agent on the phone could not guarantee me the change would only be a revalidation because she "knew nothing about ticketing". Really great support. Not.
Apr 1, 2024 | 10:42 am
#836
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA Exec
Posts: 4,391
Yes, so the way I understand it, and I asked this in another thread, is that a revalidation preserves the higher earning and a reissue switches the whole ticket to the new earnings method. Not really fair in all cases, but hey. The problem is that the agent on the phone could not guarantee me the change would only be a revalidation because she "knew nothing about ticketing". Really great support. Not.
However, when BA(EC) IT is involved, everything can happen.
Apr 4, 2024 | 11:52 am
#838
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 729
Quick Q - weve had avios awarded on a recent AA ticketed trip booked under the old earning rules.
Given the huge disparity I wondered whether there are any OW partners that still apply the old earning calculations as clearly future bookings would be best ticketed via this route if prices broadly similar? I think its just Finnair and American tickets that award based on spend just now?
Given the huge disparity I wondered whether there are any OW partners that still apply the old earning calculations as clearly future bookings would be best ticketed via this route if prices broadly similar? I think its just Finnair and American tickets that award based on spend just now?
Apr 4, 2024 | 12:48 pm
#839
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Dublin,Ireland and Nice France
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 2,200
Quick Q - weve had avios awarded on a recent AA ticketed trip booked under the old earning rules.
Given the huge disparity I wondered whether there are any OW partners that still apply the old earning calculations as clearly future bookings would be best ticketed via this route if prices broadly similar? I think its just Finnair and American tickets that award based on spend just now?
Given the huge disparity I wondered whether there are any OW partners that still apply the old earning calculations as clearly future bookings would be best ticketed via this route if prices broadly similar? I think its just Finnair and American tickets that award based on spend just now?
Apr 10, 2024 | 8:07 am
#840
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,280
Have I received the correct amount of Avios. Ticket was booked on October 16th, 2023.
Transaction:
07-Apr-24
Posted:
09-Apr-24
Flight:
London Heathrow to Atlanta
Class: World Traveller Plus (T)
Departure Date: 7 Apr 2024
BA227
Booking Reference: xxxxxx TP 90 Avios 8,426
Now, I thought WT+ under the old regime credits at 125% and my Gold Card gives me an extra 100%. That should make 225% of the 4,213 mile distance, or 9,479 Avios.
I do not usually fly WT+, so I have nothing in my history to compare it to. Or was T class reduced to 100% at some stage without me noticing?
EDIT: Finally found the old earnings table and T class only credits 100%, so my Avios collection is indeed correct.
Transaction:
07-Apr-24
Posted:
09-Apr-24
Flight:
London Heathrow to Atlanta
Class: World Traveller Plus (T)
Departure Date: 7 Apr 2024
BA227
Booking Reference: xxxxxx TP 90 Avios 8,426
Now, I thought WT+ under the old regime credits at 125% and my Gold Card gives me an extra 100%. That should make 225% of the 4,213 mile distance, or 9,479 Avios.
I do not usually fly WT+, so I have nothing in my history to compare it to. Or was T class reduced to 100% at some stage without me noticing?
EDIT: Finally found the old earnings table and T class only credits 100%, so my Avios collection is indeed correct.
Last edited by Tafflyer; Apr 10, 2024 at 8:52 am Reason: Found the answer