Feb 6, 2021, 5:40 am
Last edit by: Prospero
This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
Sep 13, 2021, 5:47 pm
#1142
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: BAEC Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 407
Billing address is a US thing and if the card is not a US card, the system wouldn't verify if the address you entered matches with the card details. If it's a US card, sometimes it only looks at the ZIP code, if not checks the entire billing address.
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Also, if anyone is interested joining me on a Back-to-Back TP run within the USA to Fairbanks within the next few days, please hit me a PM.
There is wide last minute "I" fare availability to Fairbanks, if you are seeking for cheap Tier Points. Even if your status is extended, don't forget that this counts as lifetime TP's as well.
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Also, if anyone is interested joining me on a Back-to-Back TP run within the USA to Fairbanks within the next few days, please hit me a PM.
There is wide last minute "I" fare availability to Fairbanks, if you are seeking for cheap Tier Points. Even if your status is extended, don't forget that this counts as lifetime TP's as well.
Sep 14, 2021, 6:26 am
#1143
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: FRA, JFK
Programs: BAEC GGL, A3*S, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 1,006
Also, if anyone is interested joining me on a Back-to-Back TP run within the USA to Fairbanks within the next few days, please hit me a PM.
There is wide last minute "I" fare availability to Fairbanks, if you are seeking for cheap Tier Points. Even if your status is extended, don't forget that this counts as lifetime TP's as well.
There is wide last minute "I" fare availability to Fairbanks, if you are seeking for cheap Tier Points. Even if your status is extended, don't forget that this counts as lifetime TP's as well.
Very tempting!
Sep 14, 2021, 8:15 am
#1144
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NYC
Programs: BAEC Silver, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 407
NYC-RDU $310-$351 240 TP
There are some NYC-DCA-CLT-RDU routing options available. Requires an overnight stay to get 3 segments both ways. I paid a little more and got a 9:12am flight instead of the 6:26am flight on the return.
Sample:
https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/iKji
There are some NYC-DCA-CLT-RDU routing options available. Requires an overnight stay to get 3 segments both ways. I paid a little more and got a 9:12am flight instead of the 6:26am flight on the return.
Sample:
https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/iKji
Sep 16, 2021, 5:47 am
#1145
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: BCN
Programs: BA GGL, IB, LH, IHG Gold
Posts: 582
Some interesting itineraries available from Mexico for cheap TPs. Wide open availability and wide body aircraft possible on DFW - MIA and MIA - LAX. Plenty of routings via other points on the eastern seaboard such as PHL/JFK/DCA/BOS/CLT.
440 TPs for 412 EUR. Also possible as OW for about half price.
Also works in reverse, slightly more expensive.
440 TPs for 412 EUR. Also possible as OW for about half price.
Also works in reverse, slightly more expensive.
Sep 19, 2021, 10:08 am
#1146
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,094
In case anyone might be interested... ARN/OSL-HEL-AGP return on AY is available for around €650 and 360 TPs
Sep 20, 2021, 8:52 am
#1147
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LHR
Programs: Centurion BA GGL IHG Diamond
Posts: 134
Does anyone know of any EX-EU flights to anywhere in the US in business leaving November December time for 2 weeks ? Cheapest I can find at the moment is BUD around £1500 TIA
Sep 20, 2021, 8:54 am
#1148
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
Sep 20, 2021, 11:33 am
#1150
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BOGish. VLCish. It's complicated.
Programs: BA
Posts: 681
Extensions News: email today
Another year of Gold, on us
As always, we’re by your side too. That’s why we’re extending Tier status by another 12 months for those Executive Club Members with a Tier Point collection end date between 1 January 2022 and 31 March 2022. This means that any Member renewing over this period will enjoy their status for another year, irrespective of how many Tier Points they earn. So, you’ll have more chance to enjoy the benefits you deserve, whenever you return to the skies.
And don’t forget, we’ve reduced Tier Point thresholds by 25% until June 2022, making it easier to reach that next Tier.
Another year of Gold, on us
As always, we’re by your side too. That’s why we’re extending Tier status by another 12 months for those Executive Club Members with a Tier Point collection end date between 1 January 2022 and 31 March 2022. This means that any Member renewing over this period will enjoy their status for another year, irrespective of how many Tier Points they earn. So, you’ll have more chance to enjoy the benefits you deserve, whenever you return to the skies.
And don’t forget, we’ve reduced Tier Point thresholds by 25% until June 2022, making it easier to reach that next Tier.
Sep 23, 2021, 6:57 am
#1151
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Glasgow
Programs: BAEC Gold, LH, EK, QR
Posts: 355
I'm trying to book an AMS-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL return fare with the Matrix/powertools etc. I'm finding plenty of options if LHR-AMS and/or AMS-LHR are on BA coded flights, but finding very little availability in the I bucket if the whole itinerary is on AA codes. I ideally would prefer it booked on AA codes so I can place it on hold and then call up to pay for the reservation with a load of vouchers etc AA are holding. Some vouchers expire 30th September and I need to travel end of July/August 2022, so I don't have a lot of flexibility with dates etc.
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
Sep 23, 2021, 9:31 am
#1152
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA GGL, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 910
I'm trying to book an AMS-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL return fare with the Matrix/powertools etc. I'm finding plenty of options if LHR-AMS and/or AMS-LHR are on BA coded flights, but finding very little availability in the I bucket if the whole itinerary is on AA codes. I ideally would prefer it booked on AA codes so I can place it on hold and then call up to pay for the reservation with a load of vouchers etc AA are holding. Some vouchers expire 30th September and I need to travel end of July/August 2022, so I don't have a lot of flexibility with dates etc.
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
I've called AA a couple of time before and found them to be great TBH. If you have all the flight details to hand (city pairs, dates, times) then they're pretty used to preparing itineraries. Just rattle off all the flights and they should be good.
I can't see why they wouldn't be able to ticket on BA legs TBH. I'm sure I've had ticketed itineraries on AA stock with BA flight numbers.
Sep 23, 2021, 11:25 am
#1153
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
I'm trying to book an AMS-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL return fare with the Matrix/powertools etc. I'm finding plenty of options if LHR-AMS and/or AMS-LHR are on BA coded flights, but finding very little availability in the I bucket if the whole itinerary is on AA codes. I ideally would prefer it booked on AA codes so I can place it on hold and then call up to pay for the reservation with a load of vouchers etc AA are holding. Some vouchers expire 30th September and I need to travel end of July/August 2022, so I don't have a lot of flexibility with dates etc.
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
I've tried pretty much everything I can think of with the matrix, moving the final leg on a day etc, and attempted a multi city on AA: AMS-LHR/LHF-JFK-LAX-HNL and v.v. which the AA website prices out, then bombs out at the final stage with a "please choose a different fare" error. Searching a straight AMS-HNL with them only gives options AMS-LHR-LAX-HNL, whereas every other EU city gives options with intermediate stops in JFK.
Annoyingly I got the ticket I want to price up on the AA NL website using powertools, but it has no option to hold a reservation.
It looks like I'm going to have to call up and spend ages on the phone, if I do, will the AA agent insist that all legs need to be booked on AA codes ? (the AA site is offering the itinerary I want on the dates/price I want with the last leg only on a BA code).
Any other advice from anyone? Thanks!
Sep 23, 2021, 4:23 pm
#1154
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 26
Expected Points From Bronze?
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask (if not please move / delete it) but how many Avios points are expected to be earned on attaining gold starting a Bronze? I see people attaining a range from £1-£2p/TP but I am curious if using the BA premium Amex how many points I could potentially earn, obviously this would depend on the trips but it would be interesting to learn what people have earned during their tier point runs.
Thanks
Thanks
Sep 24, 2021, 3:15 am
#1155
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask (if not please move / delete it) but how many Avios points are expected to be earned on attaining gold starting a Bronze? I see people attaining a range from £1-£2p/TP but I am curious if using the BA premium Amex how many points I could potentially earn, obviously this would depend on the trips but it would be interesting to learn what people have earned during their tier point runs.
Thanks
Thanks
BA use tier points to determine status, and this thread is about earning those as cheaply as possible, Avios are just a sideshow. The Amex BAPP card will pay you 3 Avios per GBP if spending at BA, but typically that’s a fraction of what you’ll earn on a long haul TP run. The Avios earned from flying increase with your status, so it’s a question that has no one answer. I’ve booked flights to the USA west coast from Dublin and earned around 30K Avios from the trip.