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This thread is the continuation of the discussion hosted in the BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition thread.
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
Useful tips and technical pointers
El_Duderito's explanation on fare routings and the maximum permitted distance you are allowed to travel (based on the distance between the origin and destination airports)
Helpful maps
The following series of maps show a 2,000 mile radius around each oneworld hub, useful for strategic planning purposes. Hopefully these will help your imagination to run free. Click on the images to reveal the accompanying maps.
EMEA
Asia Pacific
North America
Previous editions
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2016 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2015 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2014 edition
BA Tier Point Runs | original edition
BA Tier Point Runs | 2021 edition
#1951
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Buckinghamshire
Programs: BAEC Gold Guest List, Hilton Honours Diamond, Accor Gold
Posts: 2,303
When we will get some decent OneWorld offers from Europe to across the pond? Seems a bit bereft atm. Obviously no one is mystic Meg here, but any guidance for number TP is welcome! Been out of the loop for a while obvs!
#1952
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 681
I looked on the BA site directly for this, and sort of agree with navylad - the problem is the LAX-JFK leg on the return. BA are showing 11 flights that day, all with only economy available, that seems really odd, and AA have business available on their site. I’d try again across the next couple of days, seems like a BA glitch.
#1953
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: FRA, JFK
Programs: BAEC GGL, A3*S, Bonvoy Gold, HH Gold
Posts: 1,006
https://travel-dealz.eu/deal/tier-point-sweet-spots/
#1954
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 305
Not sure when you were looking, but yesterday I was able to book an itinerary including JFK to LAX on a Saturday, LAX to SFO on the Monday, and then SFO to JFK on the Thursday (all in October). A321T on both transcons and 40 TP for the LAX-SFO leg too. One week out of the office, 2 days in LA, 3 in SF, 2 in NY, enough TP to renew Gold in one trip.
#1955
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
I think that it’s only JFK and BOS that have the better trans-con product, there maybe some wide-bodies MIA-LAX, bit uncertain in that. If you take an ordinary cross US flight like say PHL-PHX it’s a noticeably poorer seat.
#1957
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
There’s nothing TP run about this, you should really use the find a fare clinic thread.
#1959
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 681
Thanks all. Really helpful.
It is a TP run. We're only going the long way to California to get Mr NW closer to renewing GGL. After 15 years of accruing 5,000+ TPs a year through business travel he is now retired so we need to think more strategically as I don't want to lose our jokers. He is GFL so it is the jokers we really value.
I found this, at present the LAX-MIA is a 777, is I think a better seat, sure one of the regulars will chip in if that’s not true. I think Miami is preferably to JFK in that it allows for better chance of sleep on the longer flight, but that’s personal preference.
There’s nothing TP run about this, you should really use the find a fare clinic thread.
There’s nothing TP run about this, you should really use the find a fare clinic thread.
#1960
Join Date: Feb 2003
Programs: Sir CT-UK - Streaker pour les autres.
Posts: 5,900
Thanks all. Really helpful.
It is a TP run. We're only going the long way to California to get Mr NW closer to renewing GGL. After 15 years of accruing 5,000+ TPs a year through business travel he is now retired so we need to think more strategically as I don't want to lose our jokers. He is GFL so it is the jokers we really value.
It is a TP run. We're only going the long way to California to get Mr NW closer to renewing GGL. After 15 years of accruing 5,000+ TPs a year through business travel he is now retired so we need to think more strategically as I don't want to lose our jokers. He is GFL so it is the jokers we really value.
#1961
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 681
We are going to CA in August and the fare is £2.5k whether we fly direct for 280 TPs or combine it with a car and make the stop on the East coast for 1,120 TPs. That's almost half way to renewing GGL for a trip we are doing anyway so is it really a bad run and not worth doing? Mr NW will need at least one other pure TP run and I am currently looking at how to get him to Bogata and back from Quito for maximum TPs. I will do my research on that one before coming back to this thread for help.
#1962
Join Date: Jan 2022
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 1,471
So I've got a SOF-LHR-ORD-RDU-DFW-LHR-SOF planned for Thanksgiving in November. Comes in at just over £1'000. It's not the most impressive TP run, but it's a trip I was going to make anyway, and it compares favourably vs the direct flight at £2800 and only 280 TPs. I can even add one more 40 point leg on the way home, but I like the idea of getting a longer overnight flight from DFW vs the too short JFK flight. I can deal with the London layovers and will just sleep at home. What I'm wondering is if I can skip the nights at the start and end in SOF. The positioning flight LHR-SOF on the 21st gets in at 12:35, with the first flight of the run SOF-LHR leaving at 13:30. On the way back, the LHR-SOF lands at 13:00, with the return SOF-LHR leaving at 13:50. Kind of tight but not insane connections on one hand, but they are on the same plane so I can't really miss it. It should be possible to get off the plane and go through SOF as a transfer passenger without immigration or security. Just not sure about bags. Not a prob for the last leg as I can drop checked bags at home on the 28th. But I would definitely need a checked bag to get from London to US.
Using the separate ticket for LHR-SOF-LHR, will they let me check my bag all the way LHR-SOF-LHR-ORD? Can I get away without the overnights on SOF? Or at least get out of one of them?
I hope this is clear, but as I'm a new user, I can't post links or pics yet.
Using the separate ticket for LHR-SOF-LHR, will they let me check my bag all the way LHR-SOF-LHR-ORD? Can I get away without the overnights on SOF? Or at least get out of one of them?
I hope this is clear, but as I'm a new user, I can't post links or pics yet.
#1963
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Ireland
Programs: BA: GOLD, MARRIOTT: TITANIUM, IHG: PLAT, HILTON: GOLD
Posts: 491
I have a QR credit to be used and I fear this will be my last chance before it expires. So I found OTP-ORD for €1928, not great but the best I could find before the credit expires.
I'm looking at a decent TP run in the US, or two. After ORD i'll be heading to IAH at the end of the month and could start from either. Any ideas or runs starting in the US? I'm happy to do the work, just need help with known starting points.
So far I've got DCA-FAI, but it's messy. I need something with a similar number of TP's but shorter stops.
I'm looking at a decent TP run in the US, or two. After ORD i'll be heading to IAH at the end of the month and could start from either. Any ideas or runs starting in the US? I'm happy to do the work, just need help with known starting points.
So far I've got DCA-FAI, but it's messy. I need something with a similar number of TP's but shorter stops.
Last edited by circusboy; Jan 12, 2022 at 4:10 pm
#1964
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Programs: BAEC Gold, UA Mileage Plus, Hotels.com Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum, Pizza Express Gold
Posts: 603
I think you're staying in London between SOF and ORD you can just check in your bag when you go for the LHR-ORD flight.
SOF used to be possible for returning on the same plane, but I don't know if Covid has stopped that being possible - I'll be trying to find that out in June.
#1965
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,190
The core AA Transcon routes are JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO, where you're all but guaranteed to get the A321T three class plane. (IROPS with the unavailability of a backup would be the only reason not to - all flights are scheduled as Transcons with the A321T.)
From time to time other official Transcons on A321T planes are marketed, like JFK-SNA, LAX-BOS and MIA-LAX. But these will have non-Transcon two class planes doing some (the majority?) of the flights.
In addition, other non-Transcon service widebody (777) flights are scheduled, MIA-LAX being one of those, which may have three class service, although the lines can be blurred here, with the word Transcon sometimes being used.
Hopefully that muddies the waters sufficiently!
rb211.
From time to time other official Transcons on A321T planes are marketed, like JFK-SNA, LAX-BOS and MIA-LAX. But these will have non-Transcon two class planes doing some (the majority?) of the flights.
In addition, other non-Transcon service widebody (777) flights are scheduled, MIA-LAX being one of those, which may have three class service, although the lines can be blurred here, with the word Transcon sometimes being used.
Hopefully that muddies the waters sufficiently!
rb211.