New Mandatory Covid Test for JFK Flights
#76
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Does anyone have confirmation that BA will accept a rapid test? The way the CDC rules are worded gives me reasonably high conviction that a rapid antigen or LAMP test should be acceptable, but I can see how there is confusion/ambiguity.
Separately, a weird hypothetical: I'm traveling from US to UK for less than 48 hours. I get a test in NYC on Monday at 12pm ET, get results the next morning and fly to UK Tuesday night (thereby meeting the UK's testing requirement). If I fly back to JFK on Thursday (4pm GMT), can I show the same test that I used on the outbound? I think the answer is yes, because 1) it's within 72 hours of the test and 2) I see nothing in the CDC (or NY State) rules to say the test must be taken *in* the UK.
Separately, a weird hypothetical: I'm traveling from US to UK for less than 48 hours. I get a test in NYC on Monday at 12pm ET, get results the next morning and fly to UK Tuesday night (thereby meeting the UK's testing requirement). If I fly back to JFK on Thursday (4pm GMT), can I show the same test that I used on the outbound? I think the answer is yes, because 1) it's within 72 hours of the test and 2) I see nothing in the CDC (or NY State) rules to say the test must be taken *in* the UK.
#77
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Does anyone have confirmation that BA will accept a rapid test? The way the CDC rules are worded gives me reasonably high conviction that a rapid antigen or LAMP test should be acceptable, but I can see how there is confusion/ambiguity.
Separately, a weird hypothetical: I'm traveling from US to UK for less than 48 hours. I get a test in NYC on Monday at 12pm ET, get results the next morning and fly to UK Tuesday night (thereby meeting the UK's testing requirement). If I fly back to JFK on Thursday (4pm GMT), can I show the same test that I used on the outbound? I think the answer is yes, because 1) it's within 72 hours of the test and 2) I see nothing in the CDC (or NY State) rules to say the test must be taken *in* the UK.
Separately, a weird hypothetical: I'm traveling from US to UK for less than 48 hours. I get a test in NYC on Monday at 12pm ET, get results the next morning and fly to UK Tuesday night (thereby meeting the UK's testing requirement). If I fly back to JFK on Thursday (4pm GMT), can I show the same test that I used on the outbound? I think the answer is yes, because 1) it's within 72 hours of the test and 2) I see nothing in the CDC (or NY State) rules to say the test must be taken *in* the UK.
Flew (Mrs CKBA and I) on yesterday's (09-Jan) LHR-IAD. Had a 13:00 appointment at the Collinson's testing (Level 0/Ground floor, T5). Perhaps a bit chaotic, but admin work (by them) took a few minutes, then the test - simple nasel swab, into a vial and onto the 'stick'. Mrs CKBA went first, and by the time I had mine done her test already showed negative. Confirmation email arrived about 20 mins later, and we duly collected the (hardcopy) certificate. The latter is important since you need to show this at check-in and at immigration in the US for the CDC person.
All-in-all, not a horid experience, but an additional hurdle... .
(On a side, you really have to ask why such a simple & quick test isn't more widely available - yes it does miss some +ve's, but if you don't test, you miss 100% of them!).
#79
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The US federal government is not allowing non-US citizens, residents that have been in the Schengen Area, UK, Ireland, China, Iran, and Brasil in the last 14 days to enter the USA.
Also, it's not up to the state governments to determine to decide entry rules from abroad to enter the USA directly to their respective states. It's all in the hands of the federal government and it's likely that the Presidential Proclamation currently in effect would be modified after Joe Biden becomes president on 20 January 2021.
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Well Gov Coumo bent to pressure to allow football fans at the Buffalo, NY stadium yesterday. They allowed 6772 or 9% of the seats to be filled. I was surprised about that. But of course it will depend on the new US president and what his plans are. My guess is that springtime, maybe April 1st, will open the door to Europeans. Or not. We'll see.
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Update on departing ARN on BA777 yesterday, connecting to BA113 to JFK. I was able to OLCI for BA777, but as not even able to select a seat for BA113. The check-in agent, from the local ground-handling company at ARN, seemed quite knowledgeable and was able to issue a boarding pass for the onward journey once he had confirmed that my layover was shorter than 24 hours. He also indicated that entering the UK during your layover would invalidate the test exemption.
At Heathrow T5, I scanned myself into the transfer area without human intervention. Upon boarding, the gate agent again needed to pull up my itinerary to confirm that my stay at Heathrow had been shorter than 24 hours. Overall, the transit was quite smooth.
At Heathrow T5, I scanned myself into the transfer area without human intervention. Upon boarding, the gate agent again needed to pull up my itinerary to confirm that my stay at Heathrow had been shorter than 24 hours. Overall, the transit was quite smooth.
Both my flights were delayed over an hour. At Paris, there was an engine warning light that required inspection. But as the reactor was 200C degrees, they had a wait a long while for it to cool down to do the inspection. Later at LHR I had enough to drink in the GF lounge and thus didn't care about why the flight to JFK was delayed. It didn't matter to me as it just meant less traffic on the roads into NYC. We arrived around 20:30.
#82
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The US is expanding the negative-test requirement to all international travelers starting January 26th. In my view this paves the way for revoking the Schengen/UK/Ireland travel ban. Watch this space.
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Here is the statement from the CDC related to the new requirement.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
#84
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Here is the statement from the CDC related to the new requirement.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
#85
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Any news whether the US will require PCR tests or the rapid ones will also be acceptable? The release is pretty vague ("Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the U.S. departs, and provide written documentation of their laboratory test result (paper or electronic copy) to the airline or provide documentation of having recovered from COVID-19.")
#86
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New order effective the 26th for all entries to the US from anywhere, not just the UK. Requirement is for a "viral" test. Rapid or other, so long as "viral". The arrival quarantine and second test are recommended, but not yet required. I would expect those to become mandatory in fairly short order if the infection rate amongst recent arrivals remains above the negligible.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
#87
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New order effective the 26th for all entries to the US from anywhere, not just the UK. Requirement is for a "viral" test. Rapid or other, so long as "viral". The arrival quarantine and second test are recommended, but not yet required. I would expect those to become mandatory in fairly short order if the infection rate amongst recent arrivals remains above the negligible.
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...assengers.html
Does this pave the way for tourism?
Recommended stay at home but not mandated may suggest so.
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How long was the whole process? I know you say you had the 45 min test. But from arrival at T5 to having the result in hand arriving at check in. Just so I can plan. Don’t want the stress of waiting on a result by the checkin desk with the flight closing in 1 minute kind of scenario!
#89
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Interested in this as I am flying to the USA next week.
How long was the whole process? I know you say you had the 45 min test. But from arrival at T5 to having the result in hand arriving at check in. Just so I can plan. Don’t want the stress of waiting on a result by the checkin desk with the flight closing in 1 minute kind of scenario!
How long was the whole process? I know you say you had the 45 min test. But from arrival at T5 to having the result in hand arriving at check in. Just so I can plan. Don’t want the stress of waiting on a result by the checkin desk with the flight closing in 1 minute kind of scenario!
Last edited by CKBA; Jan 13, 2021 at 8:15 am
#90
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Well France did the same thing back in July and not only did it not help tourism, it didn't stop the spread of COVID either. It sounds like a big waste of time to me, not that I'm against people getting tested. I get tested before each international flight anyways.