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This information is correct as of 15:00 on 25th September. Further changes are highly likely

Until the end of S20 Schedule (24th October)

Abuja - Daily 3-Class (with Club Suite) 777-200ER
Accra - Daily 3-Class 777-200ER
Atlanta - Daily 787-9
Bahrain - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Bangalore - 4 x Weekly A350-1000XWB
Barbados - NEW Daily service begin 17th October. 4-Class 777-200ER
Boston - Daily A350-1000XWB
Buenos Aires - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Cairo - Daily 787-8
Cape Town - Daily 4 Class 777-200ER
Chennai - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Chicago - 12 x Weekly
BA295/BA294 - 5 x Weekly 787-9
BA297/BA296 - Daily A350-1000XWB

Dallas - Daily 787-10
Delhi - Daily 787-9
Dubai - Daily A350-1000XWB
Grand Cayman - 1 x Fortnightly 3-Class 777-200ER
Hong Kong - Daily 777-300ER
Houston - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Hyderabad - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Islamabad - Daily 787-8
Johannesburg - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Kuala Lumpur - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Kuwait - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Lagos - Daily 777-300ER
Lahore - NEW 4 x Weekly service begin 12th October. 787-8
Los Angeles - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Male - NEW 3 x Weekly service begins 16th October. 777-300ER
Mexico City - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Miami - Daily 787-9
Montreal - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Moscow - Daily 787-8
Mumbai - Daily
BA139/BA138 - Until 04OCT: 777-300ER
BA199/BA198 - From 05OCT: 787-8

Nairobi - 5 x Weekly 777-300ER
New York (JFK) - 2 x Daily
BA113/BA114- Daily 777-300ER (with Club Suite)
BA175/BA112- Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Philadelphia - 2 x Weekly 787-9
Riyadh - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
San Francisco - Daily 787-9
Săo Paulo - Daily 787-9
Seattle - 3 x Weekly 787-10
Seychelles - 2 x Weekly 787-9 resumes 10th October
Shanghai - 2 x Weekly 777-300ER
Singapore - 4 x Weekly 777-300ER
Tel Aviv - Daily A350-1000XWB
Tokyo (Haneda) - 3 x Weekly 787-9
Toronto - Daily 787-8
Washington - Daily A350-1000XWB


From 25th October

Abuja - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Accra - Daily A350-1000XWB
Amman - 6 x Weekly A321Neo
Atlanta- 4 x Weekly 787-8
Bahrain - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Bangalore - 4 x Weekly A350-1000XWB
Barbados - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Beijing (Daxing) - Daily 777-300ER
Boston - 2 x Daily.
BA213/BA212 - Daily 787-9
BA215/BA214 - Daily A350-1000XWB

Buenos Aires - 5 x Weekly 787-8
Cairo - Daily A321Neo
Cape Town - Daily 777-300ER
Chennai - 6 x Weekly 787-8
Chicago - 2 x Daily 787-9
Dallas - Daily 787-9
Delhi - 2 x Daily
BA143/BA142 - Daily 787-8
BA257/BA256 - Daily 3-Class 777-200ER

Dubai - 2 x Daily
BA105/BA104 - Daily 787-9
BA107/BA106 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Grand Cayman via Nassau - 4 x Weekly 3-Class 777-200ER
Hong Kong - Daily 777-300ER (4 x Weekly with Club Suites)
Houston - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Hyderabad - 4 x Weekly 787-8/9
Islamabad - Daily 787-8
Johannesburg - Daily A380
Kuala Lumpur - 3 x Weekly 787-8
Kuwait - 3 x Weekly 4-Class 777-200ER
Lagos - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Lahore - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Los Angeles - 11 x Weekly
BA269/BA268 - Daily A380
BA281/BA280 - 4 x Weekly 777-300ER

Male - 3 x Weekly 777-300ER (with Club Suites)
Mexico City - 5 x Weekly 787-9
Miami - 2 x Daily
BA207/BA206 - Daily A380
BA209/BA208 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Montreal - 4 x Weekly 787-8
Moscow - 13 x Weekly A320/A320Neo
Mumbai - 2 x Daily
BA139/BA138 - Daily 787-8
BA199/BA198 - Daily 787-9

Muscat - 3 x Weekly. 2 x 787-8 and 1 x 787-9
Nairobi - 5 x Weekly 777-300ER
Newark - Daily 787-9
New York (JFK) - 6 3 x Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
Philadelphia - Daily A350-1000XWB
Phoenix - 5 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
Riyadh - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER
San Diego - 5 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
San Francisco - Daily 777-300ER
San Jose (CA) - 4 x Weekly 787-9 Cancelled
Santiago de Chile - 4 x Weekly 787-9
Săo Paulo - Daily 777-300ER
Seattle - Daily 787-10
Seychelles - 2 x Weekly 787-9
Shanghai - 2 x Weekly 777-300ER
Singapore - Daily 777-300ER
Tel Aviv - 2 x Daily
BA163/BA163 - Daily 787-9
BA165/BA164 - Daily 4-Class 777-200ER

Tokyo (Haneda) - 3 x Weekly 787-9
Toronto - 2 x Daily
BA093/BA092 - 5 x 787-10 & 2 x 789 Weekly
BA099/BA098 - Daily 787-9

Vancouver- Daily 4-Class 777-200ER Cancelled
Washington - Daily A350-1000XWB
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Old Sep 30, 2020, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Dan1113
Is this list really accurate? Trinidad and Tobago is on it for example, but you go to the FCO page for it, and it says: The Trinidad and Tobago government has closed its borders to all international flights indefinitely. Sea borders are also closed indefinitely to all vessels including yachts.
Flights are still available to book - currently from the end of October. But T&T airports have been closed for international arrivals since March and no sign that they will reopen any time soon. Many nationals have been stranded in the UK (and worldwide) as even they are unable to enter the country without special permission from the government and there is no way to travel there without chartering a private aircraft.
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 10:23 am
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I don’t think BA will be needing that 3 daily IST service now...
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 11:24 am
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Turkey is very popular route into the USA currently (if you spend 2 weeks there you can then enter) so at least some demand will be unaffected since that was one way. But yes a whole bunch of FTVs for those cheapo CE flights will be currently being requested I am sure!
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 12:35 pm
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Why has MCO disappeared from the wiki despite showing on the long haul map for the winter season?
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 2:31 pm
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I see Austin and a few others have been scrubbed to the end of October (as per the wiki). Just waiting for November cancellations to kick in note
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 2:38 pm
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I just booked AUS on Jan 9th, hope it sticks
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 4:50 pm
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Originally Posted by sammyg901
Turkey is very popular route into the USA currently (if you spend 2 weeks there you can then enter) so at least some demand will be unaffected since that was one way.
I wonder if that route may be closed off sooner rather than later. UK action seems to be related to Turley under reporting their stats.

I do think IST will stay though, perhaps with fewer rotations, but can’t be much hope for the other Turkish routes once people have been returned.
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 4:56 pm
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Originally Posted by lcylocal
I wonder if that route may be closed off sooner rather than later. UK action seems to be related to Turley under reporting their stats.

I do think IST will stay though, perhaps with fewer rotations, but can’t be much hope for the other Turkish routes once people have been returned.
There are many UK citizens ( mostly retired people ) who rent summer houses at the southern part for 3 or 6 months. There would still be people for DLM and BJV but not people under package holidays.
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Old Oct 1, 2020, 7:20 pm
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By the way, for tomorrow ( 2 October )

TK has scaled up all their IST-LHR and IST-LGW services to 777-300ER, also adding an additional 777-300ER flight to Gatwick.
Plus some extra flights from the south as well.

BA has taken no special arrangement for tomorrow to allow passengers to travel to the UK before the quarantine requirement starts.
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Old Oct 2, 2020, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by lcylocal
I wonder if that route may be closed off sooner rather than later. [...]

I do think IST will stay though, perhaps with fewer rotations, but can’t be much hope for the other Turkish routes once people have been returned.
We have quite a bit of comparison with other routes by now. When Spain was added to the quarantine list, frequencies reduced quite drastically, but few routes were closed entirely, and frequencies to a number of destinations have now stabilised. Same story in France. For NCE, for instance, the frequencies were abruptly cut from 5 daily to 1 daily, but then moved slightly up to 1-2 daily and are now due to go up to 3 daily to LHR plus 10 weekly LCY despite the quarantine undoubtedly continuing for the foreseeable future.

I think the idea is that any route which has strong point to point traffic, especially "commuter routes" (and a surprising number of European destinations have weekly commuters) with families split between the two ends of the route, sometimes with little choice but to continue some level of travel even if it means quarantining one or both ways. I'm unsure about Turkish routes as many were seasonal at the best of time, though anticipating potential future changes, I'd guess that a number of Greek and Italian destinations will match that description and retain some frequencies even if the countries are added to the quarantine lists.
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Old Oct 2, 2020, 1:19 am
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Originally Posted by orbitmic
We have quite a bit of comparison with other routes by now. When Spain was added to the quarantine list, frequencies reduced quite drastically, but few routes were closed entirely, and frequencies to a number of destinations have now stabilised. Same story in France. For NCE, for instance, the frequencies were abruptly cut from 5 daily to 1 daily, but then moved slightly up to 1-2 daily and are now due to go up to 3 daily to LHR plus 10 weekly LCY despite the quarantine undoubtedly continuing for the foreseeable future.

I think the idea is that any route which has strong point to point traffic, especially "commuter routes" (and a surprising number of European destinations have weekly commuters) with families split between the two ends of the route, sometimes with little choice but to continue some level of travel even if it means quarantining one or both ways. I'm unsure about Turkish routes as many were seasonal at the best of time, though anticipating potential future changes, I'd guess that a number of Greek and Italian destinations will match that description and retain some frequencies even if the countries are added to the quarantine lists.
And those commuter routes presumably work because the weekly commuters dont quarantine (special exemption)
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Old Oct 2, 2020, 3:02 am
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I have a question about potential cancellations in October. If I now book a flight for within 14 days and BA cancels / moves me to a different flight (more than 2/3 hours apart), am I owed compensation (assuming no changes to travel advise etc.) or just a refund ?

I’m trying to assess if it’s now “save” to finally book BA to DUS again. They’re still showing 3 flights for most days in the middle of October and only the late ones will work for me.
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Old Oct 2, 2020, 3:07 am
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Originally Posted by EDDLEGLL
I have a question about potential cancellations in October. If I now book a flight for within 14 days and BA cancels / moves me to a different flight (more than 2/3 hours apart), am I owed compensation (assuming no changes to travel advise etc.) or just a refund ?

I’m trying to assess if it’s now “save” to finally book BA to DUS again. They’re still showing 3 flights for most days in the middle of October and only the late ones will work for me.
If BA cancels the flight you are definitely due a full refund regardless of what alternative BA offers you.

If your flight is merely retimed you are only due a refund if the retiming is 240 minutes or more.

In terms of compensation the change may be within scope if cancelled and rebooked, but it will come down to what the reason was and whether it was caused by extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken - at that stage I am sure BA will invoke the coronavirus card!
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Old Oct 2, 2020, 3:56 am
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer
By the way, for tomorrow ( 2 October )

TK has scaled up all their IST-LHR and IST-LGW services to 777-300ER, also adding an additional 777-300ER flight to Gatwick.
Plus some extra flights from the south as well.

BA has taken no special arrangement for tomorrow to allow passengers to travel to the UK before the quarantine requirement starts.
Extra flights from Bodrum and Dalaman and all Istanbul flights are A321N - the evening service is showing Y1 so looks OK, BA have been very proactive in these arrangements over the last few weeks and I imagine if they thought there was a need they'd have ran an extra sector/uppedto a widebody
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Old Oct 6, 2020, 11:35 am
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From Routesonline:

British Airways this month is temporary adjusting operational aircraft for London Heathrow – Islamabad route. From London, 3-class 777-200ER will operate this route from 09OCT20 to 24OCT20, replacing 787-8 Dreamliner aircraft.
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