FAQ : BAEC : status extensions & Tier Point (re)qualification thresholds reduced
#3151
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Dublin, Ireland
Programs: BA Gold, Mucci
Posts: 2,068
That means as a November renewal, you are included and will still have the usual full 12 months to earn at the reduced rate.
Presumably from 8 June 2022 onwards, the plan is, at the moment, for them to go back up, but on a rolling basis as people's annual renewals occur.
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#3152
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
On 9th March this year, the second round of extensions were granted, termed as 'protecting' status, applicable to July-December 2021 TP year ends, who by that point had lost all the benefit of the 25% target reduction. Their memberships were 'protected' to their relevant TP year end month between July and December 2022, but with no reduced TP targets. So as a November year end, your 25% reduction TP year ends on 8 November 2021, but you have protected status for the year 9 November 2021 to 8 November 2022, during which you would need to earn the full TP targets to renew status for the year running from 9 November 2022 to 8 November 2023.
Last edited by gcuk; Jun 9, 2021 at 5:47 am Reason: corrected date
#3153
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
The idea of doubling tier points is almost certainly a non-starter as they would count toward lifetime totals too. It is far simpler to reduce targets than to dole out more points.
#3154
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL & CCR, GFL
Posts: 495
Not so sure about that. BA are fighting to keep going right now. I'm not sure lifetime status of anyone will come into the equation for the next year at least. Why do it for Holidays bookings at all if they don't think it'll help in whatever way it can?
#3155
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,683
BAH people much less likely as leisure travellers to trouble lifetime total? More of a small carrot to tempt them into status for the short-term.
#3156
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: London
Programs: BA GGL & CCR, GFL
Posts: 495
Just don't think anyone at BA is thinking about lifetime totals being an issue at all. They just want bookings. Trial it with BAH and see if it pulls more cash in is my thinking.
#3157
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA Exec Club, SIA KrisFlyer, Qantas FF, Emirates Skywards
Posts: 1,850
How is it more simple? It may be more generous for a very short period of time (in comparison to a lifetime of collecting tier miles), but how is it more or less simple?
#3158
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite Plus, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 142
All BA flights to my city in continental Europe are cancelled. With which planes am I supposed to make new reduced TP targets? I got the propaganda email from BA today asking me to be ready to fly. Fly where and inside which kind of metal tubes? certainly no BA ones here...
#3159
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: TPA/ABZ
Programs: BA Lifetime Gold. GGL/CCR.
Posts: 13,248
Well I'm glad you asked me that. If BA were going to issue double tier points across the board for any length of time they would have to implement a method to apply only the original number to member's lifetime totals. While I would love it in my quest for GGLFL I simply cannot see them being that generous. Therefore the process of accounting for tier points becomes more complicated from an IT perspective.
#3160
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Singapore
Programs: BA Gold. KrisFlyer Gold
Posts: 732
There looks to be very little downside to BA in extending status, particularly as it's going to take years for passenger levels to return to where they were in early 2020. Lounges are not going to be over-crowded, and a few extra TPs dished out here and there is hardly a concern.
In contrast, what I would suggest BA absolutely wants to avoid is the position where their high-value customers (who, let's be honest, are mostly travelling on company-funded business trips) find themselves ready and permitted to start travelling again early next year, but stripped of the perks of their previous status that sent them BA's way.
Whilst increasing TP earning, or reducing status thresholds, might help to put a few more bums on seats in the short term, I would not have thought it would generally motivate the high-value customer base to book numerous European holidays in the next few months (and particularly when these involve a ridiculous amount of hassle and might well be cancelled anyway). Once business travel is back up and running, at least to some significant degree, I think that will be the point that status extensions end.
In contrast, what I would suggest BA absolutely wants to avoid is the position where their high-value customers (who, let's be honest, are mostly travelling on company-funded business trips) find themselves ready and permitted to start travelling again early next year, but stripped of the perks of their previous status that sent them BA's way.
Whilst increasing TP earning, or reducing status thresholds, might help to put a few more bums on seats in the short term, I would not have thought it would generally motivate the high-value customer base to book numerous European holidays in the next few months (and particularly when these involve a ridiculous amount of hassle and might well be cancelled anyway). Once business travel is back up and running, at least to some significant degree, I think that will be the point that status extensions end.
#3161
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: near Heathrow
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL (OWE), SA LifePlat (*G), BD Gold to the end, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,911
I guess BA are constantly reviewing what the airline will look like in the future, what routes they will fly, how many jobs they can retain, etc.
Taking the extreme view, if BA never resume my favourite three routes, they aren't going to extend my status indefinitely. I'm grateful for the extensions given so far but at some point I may have to accept that in a changed BA, I may not maintain my status.
To use the phrase of another July GGL member when we had waited 8 months into our year for the status 'protection' announced in March, we had become 'emotionally detached' from BA and the status chase. It was actually quite refreshing and when the 'protection' was finally granted by the airline, it was really appreciated.
Taking the extreme view, if BA never resume my favourite three routes, they aren't going to extend my status indefinitely. I'm grateful for the extensions given so far but at some point I may have to accept that in a changed BA, I may not maintain my status.
To use the phrase of another July GGL member when we had waited 8 months into our year for the status 'protection' announced in March, we had become 'emotionally detached' from BA and the status chase. It was actually quite refreshing and when the 'protection' was finally granted by the airline, it was really appreciated.
#3162
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: The North
Posts: 1,846
I received an email this evening confirming this:
As for what BA will do, goodness knows. I would agree with those in this thread that it is likely simpler for them to reduce qualifying targets for an additional period of time, than it is to offer double TPs as the latter would count towards lifetime status unless somehow specially accounted for. This seems like a lot of work vs just reducing the thresholds which is something they’ve already implemented.
we will double your XP when travelling on Air France and KLM marketed flights between 1 July 2021 and 31 December 2021.
#3163
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Zurich / Europe / New York
Programs: LH, BA, AA
Posts: 1,309
Got an email from LH also offering limited version of double/more status miles for the next 3 months in addition to the already network-wide double status miles till end of year.
#3164
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 447
Has there been any experience recently regarding requalification based on cancelled flights?
I might be able to just about make it to 1125 TP including my cancelled flights, but not 1500.
If it's still a case of either having to meet the reduced threshold with flights that went, or having to meet the full threshold with cancelled flights, then I won't bother trying to get to 1125...
I might be able to just about make it to 1125 TP including my cancelled flights, but not 1500.
If it's still a case of either having to meet the reduced threshold with flights that went, or having to meet the full threshold with cancelled flights, then I won't bother trying to get to 1125...
#3165
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: SAN, BOS
Programs: AS MVPG100K, BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Plat,
Posts: 2,281
Has there been any experience recently regarding requalification based on cancelled flights?
I might be able to just about make it to 1125 TP including my cancelled flights, but not 1500.
If it's still a case of either having to meet the reduced threshold with flights that went, or having to meet the full threshold with cancelled flights, then I won't bother trying to get to 1125...
I might be able to just about make it to 1125 TP including my cancelled flights, but not 1500.
If it's still a case of either having to meet the reduced threshold with flights that went, or having to meet the full threshold with cancelled flights, then I won't bother trying to get to 1125...