ISTFlyer

If Canada permits this,

LCY-Halifax-LGA would be possible as Halifax has pre-clearance facilities and is closer to LGA;
However, the aircraft should also make a technical stop back in Halifax as a direct LGA-LCY flight would violate the 1500 mile perimeter rule.

KARFA

I don't think LCY to Halifax is possible. The limitation is LCY runway length and not being able to safely takeoff with 20T of fuel on that runway.

ISTFlyer

Did not know that the LCY runway had fuel limitations.
Thanks for the remark.

Nephoi

its not the fuel. its the weight. the more fuel you load, the longer is your takeoff distance.

London_traveller

Firstly, I'm glad the flame-throwing has died down. This is a good thread! Musings and speculation are the bread 'n butter of FT

One of the benefits of this flagship route is frequency. Therefore I'd be surprised if BA cut frequencies - and lose prime slots - over and above putting other aircraft types on the route. When I used to fly this route frequently for work, frequency and choice was an important factor for me.

As for LGW, I'd speculate it'll go, if one of the reasons is competition from Norwegian.

For the LCY service, there are other challenges. The hard product really needs updating now, and unless the plan is to introduce Club Suites on the A318 (I don't think that's ever been the plan?), then it's not likely to have been hanging around beyond the short/medium term anyway. The other factor of less demand for business travel for the foreseeable future will impact the service. Combine this with the opening of Crossrail - and a direct journey time of 40 mins from the City to LHR T5 - is a killer to the service.

BAeuro

Maybe the 777-200 will takeover all JFK services. It maintains the frequency but drops capacity from some of them 747s. Could the 787 make a scheduled JFK debut too?

TedToToe

With JFK being a flagship route, BA will want the Club Suite on as many services as possible. The 777-200s should do just fine and I wouldn’t expect the 787 to make an appearance.

BAeuro

From looking at prices for this time next year on the route, they seem maybe a bit higher than usual. I wonder if that’s because they anticipate the budget carriers won’t be flying next year (eg Norwegian).

London_traveller

They may as well, if they're able to increase prices then it would be odd for them not to. Anyone who wants to travel next year would - I'd hope - put somewhat of a higher price on BA as an airline that's more likely to be around in a year, compared to Norwegian.

ISTFlyer

Around mid-April, I was able to spot GBP300 r/t for both directions on all 3 alliances ( including 1-stop itineraries ).
If I'm not wrong, airlines usually price-match on this route.

By the way, TAP still has a GBP269 fare on this route ( LGW-JFK via LIS or OPO ) for this fall and winter.

jackr27

I'm sure there are lots of people working for BA right now who could only dream of having '£12k of pre-paid holidays going down the tubes'

But I digress.

BAeuro

Just comparing the 787-10 and 777-200ER with Club Suites.

787-10 - 8F 48J 35W 165Y
777-200ER - 8F 49J 40W 138Y

They have pretty similar layouts so I guess the 787-10 could appear on the JFK route, especially if they want some more economy seats to cancel out of the fall in business demand.

Keiran Newberry

I believe that the 78X doesn't have crew bunks, so is limited in the length of routes it can fly. JFK isn't a wholly unrealistic route for them

ISTFlyer

If the 787-10 could fly Atlanta or Dallas Fort Worth ( already listed ), why shouldn't it fly New York JFK?

Keiran Newberry

I never said it couldn't - I said it's not wholly unrealistic