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What will LON-JFK look like in a few years?

What will LON-JFK look like in a few years?

Old Apr 27, 20, 1:30 pm
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What will LON-JFK look like in a few years?

So with the 747 and 777-200ER being the workhorses of this route for such a long time, what aircraft will replace them in the years following COVID?

Will they need F on all the services? Will they still need the High-J 777-300s?

Will the LGW and LCY service face the axe in favour of an all LHR service?

Curious for people’s thoughts as this is arguably BA’s flagship route.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 1:38 pm
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It will be an aloominum tube for several hours across featureless clouds/water, followed by irritating arrival procedures by CBP and ICE.

So no change really, although the schedules may be trimmed.

Sorry for not participating in totally random speculation.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 1:48 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
It will be an aloominum tube for several hours across featureless clouds/water, followed by irritating arrival procedures by CBP and ICE.

So no change really, although the schedules may be trimmed.

Sorry for not participating in totally random speculation.
Then why waste time writing an unhelpful sarcastic response?
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Who knows?

TBH who actually cares at this point in time.

We just need a single speculation thread rather than numberous ones.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 1:49 pm
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Old Apr 27, 20, 1:50 pm
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I think LGW & LCY will probably get the chop, for different reasons.

The bankers and business people who were the lifeblood of the LCY service have been suddenly forced to find new ways of working and I’d imagine a lot of companies will be looking at just how necessary it is to travel for some of these meetings.

LGW-JFK was mostly launched to ward off Norwegian and it’s very debatable if they’ll survive. We’ve already seen DL/VS push back the launch of LGW-JFK and it remains to be seen if it ever gets off the ground.

Personally I see the number of JFK flights between AA & BA being reduced. There’s currently up to 12 flights to JFK alone with some overlap on timings (9.50 & 10.10 / 13.00 13.55 14.45). I could see some of these going. Will AA entirely leave LHR-JFK to BA now they’re both moving to T8?
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Old Apr 27, 20, 1:53 pm
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I think the LGW route depends on Norwegian’s survival; BA would happily drop it, one would think. LCY is unlikely to restart until loads are consistently being filled at LHR. Again, I suspect BA would happily drop it. For core LHR services, I think the refurbished 77Es will do just fine. As I stated in another thread, I think the hi-J 77W refurbishments might be pushed back to save on capital expenditure.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:00 pm
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Then why waste time writing an unhelpful sarcastic response?
Why? Because I’m getting really tired of pointless speculative threads.
Let me try to preempt another ...
”Will BA repaint their aircraft to celebrate the return to service?”

Meanwhile, thousands of BA pax, and BAFT members, are having their lives screwed up ... and there are threads here to help them.

UKtravelbear said it more succinctly, though. Who cares, and who actually knows anything anyway?
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I think the OPs question may fit here as its COVID 19 speculation really. Perhaps the Moderators might merge it there?

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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by PETER01 View Post
I think the OPs question may fit here as its COVID 19 speculation really. Perhaps the Moderators might merge it there?

BA Covid-19 news, views, speculations, general questions, rants & more
Which could in turn be renamed the “crystal ball” thread ...
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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by T8191 View Post
Why? Because I’m getting really tired of pointless speculative threads.
Let me try to preempt another ...
”Will BA repaint their aircraft to celebrate the return to service?”

Meanwhile, thousands of BA pax, and BAFT members, are having their lives screwed up ... and there are threads here to help them.

UKtravelbear said it more succinctly, though. Who cares, and who actually knows anything anyway?
I am not exempt to the issues Coronavirus brings but to be fair that’s not a discussion for here, it’s a BA forum. So sorry if people want to talk about BA!

If you don’t care, then why click on the thread? I only click on ones I’m interested in.

Also, predictions, speculation, planning is what airlines are doing right now. So I’m just trying to get people’s personal opinions.
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777-200ER equipped with Club Suites
787-10

This seems the most realistic option.
By the way, the retirement of BA 747's would be probably postponed.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:14 pm
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LCY likely would have stopped anyway after the #purpletrain (aka Elizabeth Line aka Crossrail) is fully open.

This will cut travel time Canary Wharf (London Banking district) to Heathrow by at least half.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ISTFlyer View Post
777-200ER equipped with Club Suites
787-10

This seems the most realistic option.
By the way, the retirement of BA 747's would be probably postponed.
Why? To increase fuel burn, or to cope with the massive surge of TATL traffic? Why do you advocate that?

BTW, apologies to all here for me being scratchy, but with £12k of pre-paid holidays going down the tubes and being confined to the house as a ‘vulnerable old person’ I’m not in the best of moods right now.
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Old Apr 27, 20, 2:17 pm
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So with the 747 and 777-200ER being the workhorses of this route for such a long time, what aircraft will replace them in the years following COVID?

Will they need F on all the services? Will they still need the High-J 777-300s?

Will the LGW and LCY service face the axe in favour of an all LHR service?

Curious for people’s thoughts as this is arguably BA’s flagship route.

My best guess is 747 will be retired , could be 787, 777, A350 or even A380 not really sure how they would manage the rest of the fleet.
Most likely yes there will be F on all the services, they would certainly reduce the number of services. May be even a A380 could be an alternative. When things open up the demand shall certainly be way down.
LGW could go, LCY shall stay.
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