Jan 26, 2020, 5:00 am
Last edit by: Globaliser
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BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".
BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.
If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.
More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china
For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao
Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).
LHR-HKG
From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
HKG-LHR
From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.
BA have cancelled all flights to PKX (Beijing/Peking) and PVG (Shanghai Pu Dong) "until 19 April 2020".
BA frequency to HKG has been reduced with effect from 13 February 2020 - see below for further details. From HKG, Cathay is running a heavily reduced schedule to mainland destinations until the end of March.
If you are due to fly to PKX, PVG and your flight is cancelled then you have refund, re-route and rebook options. BA can rebook on to several other airlines.
If you are due to fly to Hong Kong until 1st April you have refund and rebook options.
If you are transiting into mainland China you are also covered as above.
If you are transiting internationally (e.g. LHR-HKG-SYD) you are not able to move your flights, unless they are cancelled anyway.
The latest ba.com update was on 21 February 2020 at 1510.
More information on the advice of Her Majesty's Government about travel and health is on the Foreign and Commonwealth Office website.
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/china
For the Special Administration Regions of Hong Kong and Macao:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/hong-kong
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/macao
Summary from IATA of all travel restrictions due to Coronavirus as added to TIMATIC https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/int...1580226297.htm
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HKG frequency reductions (as of 1330 on 21 February 2020, all dates inclusive).
LHR-HKG
From Thu 13.02.2020 to Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
- Tue 18.02.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
- Tue 10.03.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (777).
- Mon 27.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 28.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Wed 29.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Thu 30.04.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 11.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 12.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 18.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 19.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Sun 24.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 25.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Tue 26.05.2020: BA27 cancelled. BA31 operates (380).
- Mon 01.06.2020: BA31 cancelled. BA27 operates (777).
HKG-LHR
From Fri 14.02.2020 to Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (380).
Exceptions:-
- Wed 19.02.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
- Wed 11.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (777).
- Sun 29.03.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 28.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 29.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Thu 30.04.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Fri 01.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 12.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 13.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 19.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 20.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Mon 25.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 26.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Wed 27.05.2020: BA28 cancelled. BA32 operates (380).
- Tue 02.06.2020: BA32 cancelled. BA28 operates (777).
Note: Schedule changes take effect on Sun 29.03.2020 in both directions.
*Coronavirus : BA Suspends all flts to mainland China* +discussion on long haul flts
Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 pm
#256
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Okay, lets deal with that issue.
Best masks out there are the N95 masks, 0.3 micron filter capability.
But even these fine masks are not effective unless they are fit tested.
Reason is the material is tight so the air flow through it is difficult, meaning the air will tend to flow around the mask as you breathe unless the mask is carefully fitted tight to your face. If the air flows around the mask it of course defeats the purpose of the mask!
Anyone with a beard cannot be fitted for an N95 according to our Infectious Disease staff when I was fitted for mine during the SARS outbreak so I had to shave mine off.
For my "successful" fit, the mask had to almost hurt to wear it was so tight to my face.
So just putting on an N95 and feeling you are "better off" is again a false sense of security and a waste of your money.
All the best.
Addendum:
I forgot to comment on infected people wearing a mask.
Yes, wearing any mask does reduce the spewing of infectious material by these people.
However this is somewhat of an oxymoronic use of a mask as what these people should be doing, especially in the case of the Corona virus, is isolating themselves, instead of being out in public spaces with a mask on!
Best masks out there are the N95 masks, 0.3 micron filter capability.
But even these fine masks are not effective unless they are fit tested.
Reason is the material is tight so the air flow through it is difficult, meaning the air will tend to flow around the mask as you breathe unless the mask is carefully fitted tight to your face. If the air flows around the mask it of course defeats the purpose of the mask!
Anyone with a beard cannot be fitted for an N95 according to our Infectious Disease staff when I was fitted for mine during the SARS outbreak so I had to shave mine off.
For my "successful" fit, the mask had to almost hurt to wear it was so tight to my face.
So just putting on an N95 and feeling you are "better off" is again a false sense of security and a waste of your money.
All the best.
Addendum:
I forgot to comment on infected people wearing a mask.
Yes, wearing any mask does reduce the spewing of infectious material by these people.
However this is somewhat of an oxymoronic use of a mask as what these people should be doing, especially in the case of the Corona virus, is isolating themselves, instead of being out in public spaces with a mask on!
Jan 28, 2020, 5:31 pm
#257
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A. Stay at home and self isolate
B. Wear as mask that reduces but does not stop the virus from escaping their face (this includes the N95, it has an "easy flow" exhaust valve believe or not to make it easier to exhale because of the density of material in the mask) join you in the supermarket while you shop for food.
Whilst B is better than not wearing a mask, as I stated the preferred answer is A, if they have the disease or a high risk of it, they should self quarantine.
The CDC's statement is for if they "have to be out", but of course such people should not be out in public spaces if the disease is to be stopped, hence "oxymoronic".
All the best.
Jan 28, 2020, 5:35 pm
#258
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Come on BA. Where’s the rerouting allowance.
Jan 28, 2020, 5:52 pm
#259
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What would you prefer a Corona virus carrier do?
A. Stay at home and self isolate
B. Wear as mask that reduces but does not stop the virus from escaping their face (this includes the N95, it has an "easy flow" exhaust valve believe or not to make it easier to exhale because of the density of material in the mask) join you in the supermarket while you shop for food.
Whilst B is better than not wearing a mask, as I stated the preferred answer is A, if they have the disease or a high risk of it, they should self quarantine.
The CDC's statement is for if they "have to be out", but of course such people should not be out in public spaces if the disease is to be stopped, hence "oxymoronic".
All the best.
A. Stay at home and self isolate
B. Wear as mask that reduces but does not stop the virus from escaping their face (this includes the N95, it has an "easy flow" exhaust valve believe or not to make it easier to exhale because of the density of material in the mask) join you in the supermarket while you shop for food.
Whilst B is better than not wearing a mask, as I stated the preferred answer is A, if they have the disease or a high risk of it, they should self quarantine.
The CDC's statement is for if they "have to be out", but of course such people should not be out in public spaces if the disease is to be stopped, hence "oxymoronic".
All the best.
Whilst a mask isn't going to stop infection with absolute certainty, it will reduce the chances of it happening. The infection rate currently is 2.4, so just one less infected person has a huge cascade effect.
Jan 28, 2020, 6:11 pm
#260
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PVG is not for sale now for weeks. Big move.
Jan 28, 2020, 6:13 pm
#261
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We have a thread here on HK hotel prices, and while our data sample is obviously small, IMO all but top top 5-stars are down 40%, and the 3-star places in CB and Wanch are down 80%. I know it's off topic, but I'd love to see the article in order to review author's methodology.
Jan 28, 2020, 7:52 pm
#262
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Jan 28, 2020, 8:25 pm
#263
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Reports emerging BA is suspending Beijing and Shanghai services until Feb 29. Last flight was today.
Jan 28, 2020, 8:48 pm
#264
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Ah, got you. I am not knowledgeable about Macau hotel rates because our clients always comp us rooms, and I never even see the bills.
Jan 28, 2020, 10:30 pm
#266
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Location: PEK and BOS
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I too am a (British) Beijing resident. I'm currently in Switzerland, and was due to fly back tomorrow GVA-LHR-PKX. I'd now like to keep the GVA-LHR leg to get back to London, but postpone the LHR-PKX leg. Would that be possible do people think? If BA flights indeed cancelled, then I guess BA will not have a choice, but no idea where that rumour comes from: it's not on the BA site.
Will call in 30 minutes to get some clarity...
But any advice in the meantime appreciated.
tb
Will call in 30 minutes to get some clarity...
But any advice in the meantime appreciated.
tb
Jan 28, 2020, 10:34 pm
#267
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...because BA is not selling any flights between LHR & PVG/PKX between now and the end of Feb. They are selling connections via HKG though.
Jan 28, 2020, 11:59 pm
#268
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: PEK and BOS
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I too am a (British) Beijing resident. I'm currently in Switzerland, and was due to fly back tomorrow GVA-LHR-PKX. I'd now like to keep the GVA-LHR leg to get back to London, but postpone the LHR-PKX leg. Would that be possible do people think? If BA flights indeed cancelled, then I guess BA will not have a choice, but no idea where that rumour comes from: it's not on the BA site.
Will call in 30 minutes to get some clarity...
But any advice in the meantime appreciated.
tb
Will call in 30 minutes to get some clarity...
But any advice in the meantime appreciated.
tb
In the end, I just cancelled both legs and booked myself with Avios to london tomorrow.
tb
Jan 29, 2020, 12:08 am
#269
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BA cancels flights to Beijing and Shanghai BREAKING NEWS!
Jan 29, 2020, 12:20 am
#270
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BA have now suspended all flights to and from 'mainland China'.