Changes to Global Entry procedure at JFK BA Terminal?
Oct 23, 2019, 9:35 pm
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The procedure for GE at JFK has changed considerably based on today’s experience.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
Oct 23, 2019, 9:46 pm
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Oct 23, 2019, 9:48 pm
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The procedure for GE at JFK has changed considerably based on today’s experience.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
Oct 24, 2019, 2:07 am
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The procedure for GE at JFK has changed considerably based on today’s experience.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
These problems seem to be limited to JFK-T7.
Oct 24, 2019, 3:23 am
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The procedure for GE at JFK has changed considerably based on today’s experience.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
I enjoyed smaller US airport so much now I try my best to fly to smaller airports.
Oct 24, 2019, 3:26 am
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You can use the APM (automatically passport machine) as UK passport holder in US with ESTA. APM is as fast as GE and the procedure is very similar. I don't understand your point. Did I miss anything?
Oct 24, 2019, 3:54 am
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It's a reference to the UK's e-gate system. But it's not really correctly portrayed in my opinion. It's now easier for Americans to enter the UK than to enter the USA. And a lot faster for Canadians to enter the UK than to enter Canada.
Oct 24, 2019, 4:56 am
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This is the new Global Entry 2.0 kiosk, Delta, Jet Blue, British Airways, and Royal Caribbean are pilot partners: https://www.cbp.gov/travel/biometrics
While capturing the data via facial recognition is great the problem is that all GE Kiosk users now need to report to a CBP officer before leaving the area.
More here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trus...ion-pilot.html
What annoys me more that the wait, is that the system assumes either WB or WT when you enter under an ESTA. Also you don't have the option to declare something for customs.
While capturing the data via facial recognition is great the problem is that all GE Kiosk users now need to report to a CBP officer before leaving the area.
More here https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trus...ion-pilot.html
What annoys me more that the wait, is that the system assumes either WB or WT when you enter under an ESTA. Also you don't have the option to declare something for customs.
Oct 24, 2019, 6:19 am
#39
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The procedure for GE at JFK has changed considerably based on today’s experience.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
The machines look the same and still have the passport scanners and fingerprint readers. The dialogue is very different - it asks you to take a photo which then prints out immediately. No fingerprinting or answering questions on the machine. You then join a GE queue to see an immigration officer who asks you purpose of visit and how long your stay is. He then stamps your passport.
On the way out of the baggage hall all GE passengers were being screened by having their luggage opened and checked or having it out through a scanner. I have only encountered this new (very labour intensive) procedure at JFK - other US airports still seem to be as normal.
Oct 24, 2019, 9:11 am
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Of course you could just say that the UK has a world leading immigration system, and that other countries should try and catch up.
Oct 24, 2019, 3:51 pm
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No passport stamping and no questions asked.
I think that the slow process described upthread is an exception, or at least I haven’t seen anything like that in my past few arrivals. Admittedly I haven’t arrived at JFK recently.
Oct 24, 2019, 6:27 pm
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JFK T7 is generally a shambles.
As much as I prefer to fly BA's onboard soft product over AA's, the AA Flagship check in experience blows BA/T7 out of the water, the T8 Flagship lounge is as good as (if not better) than the T7 F lounge, the T3 arrivals lounge beats T7 by a long shot (aside from lack of Elemis). The F wing at T5 beats the T3 check in experience... but the T3 lounge options far surpass T5. And to top it all off, T8 immigration is generally a breeze. T7 is generally a nightmare.
BA make it really, really difficult to justify giving them business on the JFK-LHR / LHR-JFK route.
Last edited by absoluy; Oct 24, 2019 at 6:36 pm
Oct 27, 2019, 8:12 pm
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As a UK Registered Traveler, I usually had to argue to use the e-gates as everyone "knew" that US passports did not qualify. Had one agent follow me who was dumbfounded when I sailed through. Then, just after paying the unreasonably expensive RT fee, they announce this. Well, at least we didn't pay to renew my wife.
