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Possibility of BA employees going on strike [LHR/LGW based pilots]

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Has a strike been called yet?
No, not at the moment but BALPA, the pilots' union, has voted in favour of strike action, and the Court of Appeal has rejected BA's submission to have the poll set aside, so the legal process is now over. However, the two parties went back into talks after the legal proceedings and those talks are expected to continue into the week of 5 August. So there will be no strike for the time being, and any strike announced would normally require 2 weeks notice under UK legislation. The earliest possible strike date is now 2 September 2019.

What flights may be affected?
LHR and LGW based flights. Not LCY or STN flights. Both cabin and flight crew are in dispute with BA, but the pilots (captains, senior first officers, first officers) are closest to strike action.

How long would a strike last?
This is unknown, however it's quite common in the UK to announce a set of one or two day strikes, with normal working in between. It would be rare for there to be a full time strike.

What would happen to my flights if it is a strike day?
A range of options will usually be announced, see post 238 below for more information.: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post31288241

Can I do anything with an existing booking now?
No, BA won't announce options until a strike day is called. Unless your ticket is flexible or has low change fees then there won't be a lot you can do.

What about Heathrow staff - aren't their strikes planned there too?
Yes there is a separate dispute at the moment between Heathrow Airport (HAL) and their staff such as those who operate the security checkpoints. See the separate thread on the issue.

Am I protected by EC261 if there is a problem?
You are always covered by the RIght to Care provisions of Regulation EC261. You could potentially be able to claim for delays and cancellations caused by BA staff too, but not for HAL strikes. See the main EC261 thread in the BA Forum Dashboard.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 9:59 am
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BA statement:

“British Airways, which has the majority of operations at Heathrow, says it plans to operate as normal.

A BA spokesperson said: “Heathrow airport have assured us that they will have robust contingency plans in place to avoid any disruption to travellers.”
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Old Jul 12, 19, 10:01 am
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BA statement:

“British Airways, which has the majority of operations at Heathrow, says it plans to operate as normal.

A BA spokesperson said: “Heathrow airport have assured us that they will have robust contingency plans in place to avoid any disruption to travellers.”
Like all BA plans they may end up as pie in the sky.
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Old Jul 12, 19, 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by rapidex View Post
Like all BA plans they may end up as pie in the sky.
Or, quite possibly, pie on the ground instead.

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Old Jul 12, 19, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by pauldb View Post
And there's more: 4,000 Heathrow workers, Unite members, with strikes announced for 26/27 July and 5/6, 23/24 August. "could poternitally shut down the airport."

https://unitetheunion.org/news-event...n-pay-dispute/
I wonder what the implications of this are. Wonder if there are ground crew to get people alighted from an A380 or not... I'm due to land LHR on 6th August (was hoping to miss the BA strike by a day, might have failed elsewhere!) and will certainly only go with hand luggage now.
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Old Jul 15, 19, 9:24 am
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I have nothing against people striking but I do think that they should be accountable for their actions, and any 3rd party who is affected should be allowed to seek compensation from those sttiking causing them financial loses or stress This is for any situation not just this one.
I'm sure you would agree to my modest proposal that any failure to travel or spend money by you should also be actionable, as the airline is entitled to your money. Not only should you not get a refund for any fares, but if you don't book the first place you should have to pay up, and also pay the money you would have spent on ancillary charges. Then there's the transport costs to and from the airport, and the hotel while you're away, and so on. Let's extend it to any shopping you don't do, any leisure attractions you don't use, etc?

Sure, bring on financial extortion to intimidate people you think are indentured servants. You submit first, to those you serve. I'll be waiting, in the travel industry, for your payments that I think I'm owed under your scheme.
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Old Jul 15, 19, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by mmxbreaks View Post
I wonder what the implications of this are. Wonder if there are ground crew to get people alighted from an A380 or not... I'm due to land LHR on 6th August (was hoping to miss the BA strike by a day, might have failed elsewhere!) and will certainly only go with hand luggage now.
The earliest date for BA strike action by BALPA is 5 August if it goes ahead and the action could be continuous so landing on 6th is probably departing on 5th could still be affected. Reading between the lines eg with the agreements on social media I’m hoping other agreements may be made preventing the action.
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Old Jul 17, 19, 1:57 am
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Hi all

I have a flight to Santiago (CW 2-4-1 redemption) that will potentially be hit if a strike goes ahead (it departs just over 2 weeks after the pilots ballot).

It's critical that we arrive in Santiago within 24 hrs of our scheduled flight (which arrives Fri morning) as we have onward transfers to a fairly remote ski resort that only depart on a Saturday so if our BA flight is cancelled I want to be pro-active in getting BA to re-book us on another carrier.

What's our best course of action if/when we find our flight is affected? Call the silver line (I'd presume there would be a lot of callers) or go to Heathrow and speak to an agent (I live in central London so that wouldn't be a big issue)?
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:01 am
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Originally Posted by alpenlupe View Post
Hi all

I have a flight to Santiago (CW 2-4-1 redemption) that will potentially be hit if a strike goes ahead (it departs just over 2 weeks after the pilots ballot).

It's critical that we arrive in Santiago within 24 hrs of our scheduled flight (which arrives Fri morning) as we have onward transfers to a fairly remote ski resort that only depart on a Saturday so if our BA flight is cancelled I want to be pro-active in getting BA to re-book us on another carrier.

What's our best course of action if/when we find our flight is affected? Call the silver line (I'd presume there would be a lot of callers) or go to Heathrow and speak to an agent (I live in central London so that wouldn't be a big issue)?
You're not going if there is a strike, live with it.

How much spare capacity do you think there is to Santiago in August? Even a one-day strike would take 3-4 days to clear everyone, and this will not be a one day strike.

BA is flying 1 million passenger PER WEEK in August. Even if there were the seats elsewhere (there are not) who do you think is manually rebooking one million people?!
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:03 am
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Originally Posted by alpenlupe View Post
Hi all

I have a flight to Santiago (CW 2-4-1 redemption) that will potentially be hit if a strike goes ahead (it departs just over 2 weeks after the pilots ballot).

It's critical that we arrive in Santiago within 24 hrs of our scheduled flight (which arrives Fri morning) as we have onward transfers to a fairly remote ski resort that only depart on a Saturday so if our BA flight is cancelled I want to be pro-active in getting BA to re-book us on another carrier.

What's our best course of action if/when we find our flight is affected? Call the silver line (I'd presume there would be a lot of callers) or go to Heathrow and speak to an agent (I live in central London so that wouldn't be a big issue)?
I would do as I have done for my upcoming trip to YUL...
I have already looked to see what the alternatives are.
I have talked to the other members of the group, so I know how much leeway I have vis-à-vis leaving early etc.
Now I just have to wait and see what actually comes along and how BA are going the deal with it, and then dependant on that I will have tip-toed through the chaos, or I am right in the middle of it and have to try to action whichever of the plans B, C, D .... ZZZZ I have come up with suits me and BA to get around the chaos.
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:04 am
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Originally Posted by alpenlupe View Post
Hi all

I have a flight to Santiago (CW 2-4-1 redemption) that will potentially be hit if a strike goes ahead (it departs just over 2 weeks after the pilots ballot).

It's critical that we arrive in Santiago within 24 hrs of our scheduled flight (which arrives Fri morning) as we have onward transfers to a fairly remote ski resort that only depart on a Saturday so if our BA flight is cancelled I want to be pro-active in getting BA to re-book us on another carrier.

What's our best course of action if/when we find our flight is affected? Call the silver line (I'd presume there would be a lot of callers) or go to Heathrow and speak to an agent (I live in central London so that wouldn't be a big issue)?
Other carriers flights are already almost full. This is summer. If your flight is cancelled the most likely option will be go home.
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:07 am
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How much spare capacity do you think there is to Santiago in August?
Not much! That's why I'm trying to be pro-active. Someone will be first to be re-booked, why not me?
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by Raffles View Post
You're not going if there is a strike, live with it.
Is this how we now respond to people who are worried the holiday they've likely been looking forward to will be disrupted by industrial action? This was a horrible way to respond.
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:25 am
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Is this how we now respond to people who are worried the holiday they've likely been looking forward to will be disrupted by industrial action? This was a horrible way to respond.
How would you have done it better?
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How would you have done it better?
Perhaps something constructive such as I put in my reply.
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Old Jul 17, 19, 2:31 am
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How would you have done it better?
Are you seriously asking me that? For starters I wouldn't have said, "you're not going if there is a strike, live with it" and secondly I would have actually offered some constructive advice which is what they came here for rather than just make them feel worse about the whole situation.
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