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For the discussion on if/when the new seat will be on (insert flight/route here), please see the companion thread here: British Airways Club Suite 2019 - (When) Will I get the new seat on my flight?
On 18 March 2019, British Airways announced its new Club World seat:
Images: British Airways
BRITISH AIRWAYS WELCOMES ITS NEW A350 AIRCRAFT AND UNVEILS ITS NEW BUSINESS CLASS 'CLUB SUITE'.
360 degree view of cabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=dYJgVnHyDqA
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vQ9XUNnvkvg
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109862
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109870
On 18 March 2019, British Airways announced its new Club World seat:
Images: British Airways
BRITISH AIRWAYS WELCOMES ITS NEW A350 AIRCRAFT AND UNVEILS ITS NEW BUSINESS CLASS 'CLUB SUITE'.
360 degree view of cabin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=dYJgVnHyDqA
Video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=vQ9XUNnvkvg
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109862
http://mediacentre.britishairways.co...details/109870
New CW ‘Club Suite’ Discussion Thread
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There is a very interesting interview with Cruz about the new seat with Business Traveller. The article answers some of the questions or speculative queries that have been posted on this thread..
Happy to post a link or copy and paste the article?
Here is the link... https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ss-club-suite/
Its is quite a lengthy article so here is the start but please click the link if you wish to read it all.
Happy to post a link or copy and paste the article?
Here is the link... https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ss-club-suite/
Its is quite a lengthy article so here is the start but please click the link if you wish to read it all.
and perhaps now we join some dots and see 10 abreast 777 is all about ultimately having a smaller Y cabin footprint but similar seat-count to 9 abreast, 8 F is all about having a smaller F cabin footprint and a smaller yield driving seat-count, so that NCWS can get sensible density with all aisle access. I THINK I heard the 77W would be 8F, 76J (up from 56J). NO idea on W cabin but probably Y with 10 abreast seat count as per 9 abreast as now
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Thanks ... I always prefer the handheld, as it avoids having to stretch out to punch the screen. I know, I’m lazy, but in a ‘relaxed’ posture screen-tapping is a bit of a pain.
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Have had a read through it, quite interesting.
and perhaps now we join some dots and see 10 abreast 777 is all about ultimately having a smaller Y cabin footprint but similar seat-count to 9 abreast, 8 F is all about having a smaller F cabin footprint and a smaller yield driving seat-count, so that NCWS can get sensible density with all aisle access. I THINK I heard the 77W would be 8F, 76J (up from 56J). NO idea on W cabin but probably Y with 10 abreast seat count as per 9 abreast as now
and perhaps now we join some dots and see 10 abreast 777 is all about ultimately having a smaller Y cabin footprint but similar seat-count to 9 abreast, 8 F is all about having a smaller F cabin footprint and a smaller yield driving seat-count, so that NCWS can get sensible density with all aisle access. I THINK I heard the 77W would be 8F, 76J (up from 56J). NO idea on W cabin but probably Y with 10 abreast seat count as per 9 abreast as now
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It's a great development, finally the end of the ying-yang concept is in sight. More importantly, it will put the seats on a par with AA's fabulous 777-300 product. The doors will be a nice touch that will provide a small bridge to first class in many people's minds - one of the current seat's biggest downfalls is the total lack of privacy if you get stuck with an aisle seat. Plus, 2-4-2 is a disgraceful configuration for LH business class. Well done BA - at least 5 years later than you should have done this, but good job nonetheless.
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This from the interview with Alex Cruz in Business Traveller: "We didn’t believe that it was right for BA to continue offering an eight-abreast product."
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It doesn't look that way in the virtual mock-ups, unless you are referring to the specific point where one person's feet intersect with the same line as the person in front's torso?
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There were never actually 8 seated torsos in a row, but 4 then 4.
Technicality, yes.
BA could have numbered the forward facing seats as even and rear facing seats as odd, but that would have been confusing...
Technicality, yes.
BA could have numbered the forward facing seats as even and rear facing seats as odd, but that would have been confusing...
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The supposed dichotomy between current CW's "8-abreast" and the "4-abreast" of the new layout and all of the similar layouts is false, and it always has been. There's always some overlap between one person's feet and some other person's head and body. Current CW does it differently from most others because of the yin-yang arrangement, thus its higher density. But the difference is one of degree, not of distinction; only a completely unthinking person would say that moving from current CW's "2-4-2" to the new "1-2-1" means double the space or half the density (although I acknowledge that there have sometimes been such people posting on FT). Take any similar cabin and draw any horizontal line across the aircraft: it will almost always cross some part of each of 8 seats.
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His point is tthough that the whole 1-2-1 vs 2-4-2 is very misleading in that there are obviously in no way double the amount of seats in the same space.
People bang on about this new seat being close to F, when in reality the difference in the actual footprint of this new seat and F is vast compared to this new seat and CW.
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The supposed dichotomy between current CW's "8-abreast" and the "4-abreast" of the new layout and all of the similar layouts is false, and it always has been. There's always some overlap between one person's feet and some other person's head and body. Current CW does it differently from most others because of the yin-yang arrangement, thus its higher density. But the difference is one of degree, not of distinction; only a completely unthinking person would say that moving from current CW's "2-4-2" to the new "1-2-1" means double the space or half the density (although I acknowledge that there have sometimes been such people posting on FT). Take any similar cabin and draw any horizontal line across the aircraft: it will almost always cross some part of each of 8 seats.
That’s what he means.
His point is tthough that the whole 1-2-1 vs 2-4-2 is very misleading in that there are obviously in no way double the amount of seats in the same space.
People bang on about this new seat being close to F, when in reality the difference in the actual footprint of this new seat and F is vast compared to this new seat and CW.
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