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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by Smid
Is there some sort of false memory here? Or a very short timescale mistake fare?

There's been plenty of £1300-1500 ex-ARN/CDG/OTP sales to the west coast of the US, but I cannot recall seeing an ex-EU to Hawaii for under £1500 for a long long time.
It is often and recently around this mark;

https://www.turningleftforless.com/n...-retro-livery/ Mar 19 - £1,455
https://www.turningleftforless.com/n...ental-3-for-2/ Feb 19 - £1,523
https://www.turningleftforless.com/b...inthia-offers/ Jul 18 - £1,534

They really do pop up often
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 3:05 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
It is often and recently around this mark;

https://www.turningleftforless.com/n...-retro-livery/ Mar 19 - £1,455
https://www.turningleftforless.com/n...ental-3-for-2/ Feb 19 - £1,523
https://www.turningleftforless.com/b...inthia-offers/ Jul 18 - £1,534

They really do pop up often
Only the first one in that range of 1300-1500 (or do you really mean 1300-1600?). That appears to have been for three days in March. I did miss that one. I don't think saw it appear on here either, so its not exactly ubiquitious.

The last one was actually above £1600 at the cheapest (dated 24th of July, not sure where the links take me). Also needs booked six months in advance, which suits me and not everyone, so perhaps a large caveat. Especially interesting, because its in the last week, and I'd have remembered spotting it.

I know this seems pedantic, but you're misrepresenting people reading this forum and getting a fare in this range quite regularly and clearly. It's not true. I'm not inferring that its lack of £1100 fares, they're long gone.

But thanks, what I've also learned is that I need to read turningleftforless much more. It seems to catch these much more than the BA TP thread.
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 3:55 am
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I don't wish to side-track this thread anymore - my point was only that £2200 is steep for such a long off trip to HNL, I was not suggesting these are long standing prices - if someone has delved into Flyertalk and is making use of TP Runs and Premium Fares, then it's worth them checking for five minutes daily and jumping on a special when it comes up. Agreed, following a couple of the decent blogs also helps.

@Nephoi don't be impatient wait for a better price
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 4:01 am
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turningleftforless does seem to catch the non OW fares, which often are silently matched by BA/AA a few days later. I'd be watching if they matched the TAP ex-DUB £1100 to SFO, but it appears not. Important if looking for someone else though, who don't care about the alliance.

I just wish they'd put more than 2 news items per page.

But yes, back of the (lack of TP) runs.
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Old Aug 1, 2019, 4:33 am
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Originally Posted by mikeyfly
I don't wish to side-track this thread anymore - my point was only that £2200 is steep for such a long off trip to HNL, I was not suggesting these are long standing prices - if someone has delved into Flyertalk and is making use of TP Runs and Premium Fares, then it's worth them checking for five minutes daily and jumping on a special when it comes up. Agreed, following a couple of the decent blogs also helps.

@Nephoi don't be impatient wait for a better price
its not only impatience.. its the fear of ending with a price of 3.5k...
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Old Aug 2, 2019, 7:59 am
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Any recommendations on a creative routing to gain some extra TP on a trip to IST? Would be happy to consider ex-EU departures.
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Old Aug 2, 2019, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by Camflyer
Any recommendations on a creative routing to gain some extra TP on a trip to IST? Would be happy to consider ex-EU departures.
It depends on how many you need and what your budget is... What have you found so far?
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Old Aug 2, 2019, 8:59 am
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Originally Posted by Smid
Is there some sort of false memory here? Or a very short timescale mistake fare?

There's been plenty of £1300-1500 ex-ARN/CDG/OTP sales to the west coast of the US, but I cannot recall seeing an ex-EU to Hawaii for under £1500 for a long long time.
flew LUX-LHR-PHL-LAX-HNL HNL-PHX-PHL-LHR-LUX in Feb for around £1500 from memory I booked about 150 days out
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 7:41 am
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Hi guys,

I am a BA Silver and plan on using my avios with SriLankan to fly to Colombo in Economy (To kick start the awesome CMB XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX HNL run). Will I get access to the Cathay Pacific lounge in T3?
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 7:51 am
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Originally Posted by Tomoghno Ghose
Hi guys,

I am a BA Silver and plan on using my avios with SriLankan to fly to Colombo in Economy (To kick start the awesome CMB XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX HNL run). Will I get access to the Cathay Pacific lounge in T3?
Yes.
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 11:48 am
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Originally Posted by Tomoghno Ghose
Hi guys,

I am a BA Silver and plan on using my avios with SriLankan to fly to Colombo in Economy (To kick start the awesome CMB XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX,XXX HNL run). Will I get access to the Cathay Pacific lounge in T3?
Is the CMB run still available I wanted to do something with that but my calendar says it ended 29 July?

What sort of routing are you doing? I am only after SIlver status.
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 1:17 pm
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I booked it last weekend. It seems to have gone up in price by about £700 now. Im doing CMB-DOH-LGW-JFK-DFW-HNL and HNL-ORD-JFK-LCY / LGW-DOH-CMB-BKK. Came to £2455
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Tomoghno Ghose
I booked it last weekend. It seems to have gone up in price by about £700 now. Im doing CMB-DOH-LGW-JFK-DFW-HNL and HNL-ORD-JFK-LCY / LGW-DOH-CMB-BKK. Came to £2455
Was it not possible to route through PHX or LAX on that fare? By going through ORD and DFW you're missing out on a lot of TPs.
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Old Aug 4, 2019, 3:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Misco60
Was it not possible to route through PHX or LAX on that fare? By going through ORD and DFW you're missing out on a lot of TPs.
Yes, I know and I pondered over this for a while but eventually I deliberately opted for that routing as they have flat beds and the distances are quite a lot. And return via ORD allowed a connection to JFK in time to catch the babybus to LCY which has been on my radar for a while.
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Old Aug 5, 2019, 1:02 am
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Just out of interest, when you check the fare rules and it allows free transfers (I’m assuming transfers mean a connecting flight somewhere) see below:

Category 9: Transfer restrictions 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
DIRECTION
NONE PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
IN EACH DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.Do you need to create the itinerary on ITA matrix first to include the transfers you want (maximising tier points etc) or do you just book it and then call the airline up to make the changes?

Also just out of curiosity and slightly OT - the restrictions on particular airline flight numbers. For example:

Category 4: Flight restrictions THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS
ANY WS FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
LH FLIGHTS 3751 THROUGH 3897
LH FLIGHTS 3400 THROUGH 3632.
Is this based on each individual airline putting their own restrictions on which flight this particular booking can be ticketed due to their own supply and demand, or the airline making the decision due to their own pricing structure? And is this all decided by a computer or actual people making the decisions??
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