Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
Last edit by: jfkeze
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com
From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)
From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2018 Archive
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2019-20 edition
Apr 14, 2019, 4:44 pm
#1441
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Oxford, United Kingdom
Programs: BA GGL, NH SFC, IHG Diamond, Radisson VIP, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 838
Sorry to bother you, but how can I book the flights found on ITA/Google Flights? Google flights shows the aa.com link and am redirected to the booking page. However, when completing the booking, it always says "Something went wrong" and doesn't let me complete the booking. Then I choose exactly the same flights on aa.com or expedia, I never see the same price. I eventually booked the itinerary by paying $250 more.
I had never had any problems with aa.com, what happened to their flight search? Also, prices found on ITA/Google flights are real? I played with some other routings and aa.com never allowed me to proceed, always "Something went wrong" in red.
I had never had any problems with aa.com, what happened to their flight search? Also, prices found on ITA/Google flights are real? I played with some other routings and aa.com never allowed me to proceed, always "Something went wrong" in red.
Apr 15, 2019, 12:24 am
#1442
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
Hmm.. I might have to HUCA (hang up call again) since the first one I called said that I would need to contact Priceline to make any changes even though the schedule change was on AA and made by AA (with the 001) ticket number, something is off there so I might just give AA another call tomorrow. lol
See below for my preferred option...Sorry to bother you, but how can I book the flights found on ITA/Google Flights? Google flights shows the aa.com link and am redirected to the booking page. However, when completing the booking, it always says "Something went wrong" and doesn't let me complete the booking. Then I choose exactly the same flights on aa.com or expedia, I never see the same price. I eventually booked the itinerary by paying $250 more.
I had never had any problems with aa.com, what happened to their flight search? Also, prices found on ITA/Google flights are real? I played with some other routings and aa.com never allowed me to proceed, always "Something went wrong" in red.
I had never had any problems with aa.com, what happened to their flight search? Also, prices found on ITA/Google flights are real? I played with some other routings and aa.com never allowed me to proceed, always "Something went wrong" in red.
To book other airlines, I create a multi-city itinerary with Google flights, and book using one of their links. Again, doesn't always work but when it didn't, there was no working alternative I could find.
Last edited by thebigben; Apr 15, 2019 at 12:30 am
Apr 15, 2019, 1:28 am
#1443
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Phx, AZ
Programs: BA Gold, AS MVPG
Posts: 664
Ah, that is why I don't book through travel agents anymore See below for my preferred option...
For AA flights (fare code starts with AA) bookwithmatrix.com -> copy paste the contents of the ITA matrix page -> wait for the magic to happen -> click the down arrow on the "Book with.... " button, and select "Book with American" and here you go. It doesn't always work - some fares disappear quicker than ITA can update them, or some just fail to price with this method, but it worked for all the TP runs I took.
To book other airlines, I create a multi-city itinerary with Google flights, and book using one of their links. Again, doesn't always work but when it didn't, there was no working alternative I could find.
See below for my preferred option...For AA flights (fare code starts with AA) bookwithmatrix.com -> copy paste the contents of the ITA matrix page -> wait for the magic to happen -> click the down arrow on the "Book with.... " button, and select "Book with American" and here you go. It doesn't always work - some fares disappear quicker than ITA can update them, or some just fail to price with this method, but it worked for all the TP runs I took.
To book other airlines, I create a multi-city itinerary with Google flights, and book using one of their links. Again, doesn't always work but when it didn't, there was no working alternative I could find.
Apr 15, 2019, 3:08 am
#1444
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Rewards, BAPP
Posts: 352
Over the weekend I have been looking into various options to the US west coast in November.
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
Apr 15, 2019, 4:25 am
#1445
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Northants, UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 111
Over the weekend I have been looking into various options to the US west coast in November.
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
Apr 15, 2019, 5:21 am
#1446
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold / OW Emerald
Posts: 753
Over the weekend I have been looking into various options to the US west coast in November.
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
My usual routings are something like ARN-HEL-LHR-IAD-LAX-SFO return and ITA has found them albeit not the best price.
This morning though, all the earlier routes I've tried have been shortcutted to LHR-LAX or wherever else BA or AA fly direct. I'm presuming there aren't any deals at the minute but that seems most strange.
Even the HNL flights I'd investigated now just say no flights found!
I'm looking for around 900tp in November, have I missed something, got a problem with my cache or can anyone point me in the right direction please?
Cheers
AQ
Apr 15, 2019, 7:49 am
#1447
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2019
Programs: BA
Posts: 44
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Last edited by newflya; Apr 20, 2019 at 9:29 pm
Apr 16, 2019, 5:36 am
#1448
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: EDI, LHR
Programs: BA - Gold, Hilton - Diamond, Marriott - Silver
Posts: 73
Need to tap into the wider wisdom here.
My JFK-PHX has been moved back by 55 minutes and I called AA to ask for a rebook to JFK-LAX-PHX. The Agent couldn't get the system to rebook to AA341 connecting to AA2318. She called the AA Support team and then told me the 55 minutes change is not significant and the system doesn't allow her to rebook. The new flight would have arrived about 2 hours earlier than the original pre-change. However, it seemed that connections other than LAX / SFO such as ORD, CLT or DFW were ok.
Is this a "Hang up and call again" or am I out of luck here? What other options do I have?
Thanks in advance.
My JFK-PHX has been moved back by 55 minutes and I called AA to ask for a rebook to JFK-LAX-PHX. The Agent couldn't get the system to rebook to AA341 connecting to AA2318. She called the AA Support team and then told me the 55 minutes change is not significant and the system doesn't allow her to rebook. The new flight would have arrived about 2 hours earlier than the original pre-change. However, it seemed that connections other than LAX / SFO such as ORD, CLT or DFW were ok.
Is this a "Hang up and call again" or am I out of luck here? What other options do I have?
Thanks in advance.
Ive found Spanish sounding agents not based in the US handling AA calls to be as woeful an experience as calling Iberia....Call the US number and try again.....
Apr 17, 2019, 10:01 am
#1449
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,622
Being a bit lazy going into the Easter break, apologies.
Through some accident of misidentification, I got a recognition award from work. It turn out I can convert this either into £550 of OTA vouchers (including flights), 54000 avios, or £550 of hotel vouchers.
I'm inclined to take option A and turn them into TPs, probably next TP year which starts Feb 8th. And looking for ideas really, obviously I know I can likely do an OTP from LHR via LUX for 360TP for about £600, but is there anything more interesting anyone can think of? I don't mind at all running over the top of the £550 providing the total TP haul is economical. Ideas welcome. I would expect I can book with pretty much any airline using the vouchers, at more or less the same price as the airline.
Through some accident of misidentification, I got a recognition award from work. It turn out I can convert this either into £550 of OTA vouchers (including flights), 54000 avios, or £550 of hotel vouchers.
I'm inclined to take option A and turn them into TPs, probably next TP year which starts Feb 8th. And looking for ideas really, obviously I know I can likely do an OTP from LHR via LUX for 360TP for about £600, but is there anything more interesting anyone can think of? I don't mind at all running over the top of the £550 providing the total TP haul is economical. Ideas welcome. I would expect I can book with pretty much any airline using the vouchers, at more or less the same price as the airline.
Apr 17, 2019, 10:33 am
#1450
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BOS, NCL (sort of)
Programs: BA Gold, Global Entry
Posts: 49
This isn't a tier point run as such, but I'm looking to go BOS-DEL; DEL-NCL; NCL-BOS in First all on one ticket. I'm looking to May 28 and return about two weeks later (dates are flexible). When I do BOS-DEL; DEL-BOS then the price is $4,436, however when I add the two NCL legs, the price is ~$12,000. I used to be able to do this where the price only went up about $200. It seems that the reason is because of the stopover in NCL. I can do BOS-DEL: DEL-LHR; LHR-BOS and the price does not change much.
Is there anyway around this? Or any creative suggestions? It seems that I will have to book a separate LHR-NCL-LHR ticket and this makes me nervous.
Any help would be appreciated
Is there anyway around this? Or any creative suggestions? It seems that I will have to book a separate LHR-NCL-LHR ticket and this makes me nervous.
Any help would be appreciated
Apr 17, 2019, 10:37 am
#1451
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Devon, England
Programs: BAEC Gold, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 66
That sounds interesting but I can't seem to work out how you can get 360 TP from flights to OTP from LHR via LUX. Am I missing something?
Please can you enlighten me as to the routing for this?
Please can you enlighten me as to the routing for this?
Apr 17, 2019, 10:45 am
#1452
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 3,190
This isn't a tier point run as such, but I'm looking to go BOS-DEL; DEL-NCL; NCL-BOS in First all on one ticket. I'm looking to May 28 and return about two weeks later (dates are flexible). When I do BOS-DEL; DEL-BOS then the price is $4,436, however when I add the two NCL legs, the price is ~$12,000. I used to be able to do this where the price only went up about $200. It seems that the reason is because of the stopover in NCL. I can do BOS-DEL: DEL-LHR; LHR-BOS and the price does not change much.
Is there anyway around this? Or any creative suggestions? It seems that I will have to book a separate LHR-NCL-LHR ticket and this makes me nervous.
Any help would be appreciated
Is there anyway around this? Or any creative suggestions? It seems that I will have to book a separate LHR-NCL-LHR ticket and this makes me nervous.
Any help would be appreciated
Others will be along shortly to provide more more useful commentary!
rb211.
Apr 17, 2019, 11:02 am
#1453
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,076
Ticket 1 Positioning LHR-LUX//LUX-LHR 80 TP
Ticket 2 Main LUX-LHR-OTP-LHR-LUX 240TP
Apr 17, 2019, 11:23 am
#1454
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: NCL
Programs: BAEC and Hilton mostly
Posts: 655
Being a bit lazy going into the Easter break, apologies.
Through some accident of misidentification, I got a recognition award from work. It turn out I can convert this either into £550 of OTA vouchers (including flights), 54000 avios, or £550 of hotel vouchers.
I'm inclined to take option A and turn them into TPs, probably next TP year which starts Feb 8th. And looking for ideas really, obviously I know I can likely do an OTP from LHR via LUX for 360TP for about £600, but is there anything more interesting anyone can think of? I don't mind at all running over the top of the £550 providing the total TP haul is economical. Ideas welcome. I would expect I can book with pretty much any airline using the vouchers, at more or less the same price as the airline.
Through some accident of misidentification, I got a recognition award from work. It turn out I can convert this either into £550 of OTA vouchers (including flights), 54000 avios, or £550 of hotel vouchers.
I'm inclined to take option A and turn them into TPs, probably next TP year which starts Feb 8th. And looking for ideas really, obviously I know I can likely do an OTP from LHR via LUX for 360TP for about £600, but is there anything more interesting anyone can think of? I don't mind at all running over the top of the £550 providing the total TP haul is economical. Ideas welcome. I would expect I can book with pretty much any airline using the vouchers, at more or less the same price as the airline.
Congrats on the award - and commiserations to the intended recipient
Apr 17, 2019, 1:35 pm
#1455
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: BAEC GGL/CR; Hilton Diamond; Mucci des Puccis
Posts: 5,622
It comes out at around £600 and you can PP it to pay for the positioning to JER in Y, which is currently stubbornly refusing to offer a POUG. I mentioned it somewhere above, so worth a thread search for the details if it takes your fancy. You find it in google flights by looking for LUX->OTP prices and then expand either side, it's bookable on BA multiflights directly.
Malta is certainly an option (my great uncle F. H. M Maynard was AOC Med there in 1940, great story there). I was also vaguely wondering about Russia and S7 as I've never been there or flown with them.