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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Apr 26, 2019, 11:45 am
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Business class to New Zealand - maximising points

Hi All,

Ive been using the site over the past few years and from reading various really useful posts have been able to use ita matrix to find some good opportunities. I’m lucky enough to have a trip to Auckland in the coming months and to ensure I make the most of the opportunity thought it was time I asked for some expert help!

from previous posts I’ve found some a few well earning routes, such as:

LHR - HEL - HKG - AKL
LHR - NYC - LAX - AKL

apart from changing to somewhere like MAN to start the journey I’d be grateful for any other advice on additional sectors I can add or alternative routings.

thanks for your help in advance and sorry it’s so long winded!
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Old Apr 26, 2019, 12:28 pm
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I just booked a ticket from OSL-LHR-MAD-OPO and return on Iberia for 450£. As a BA gold it gives me around 10500 Avios and 240TP to BAEC. 3 flights are BA operated and 3 with IB and the return is with IB A350 from MAD to LHR The TP ratio is maybe not the best, but I needed excactly 240TP to renew my BA gold
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Old Apr 26, 2019, 12:35 pm
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I found an ideal trip for me the other day on ITA Matrix. Unfortunately at the time I hadn't confirm that I'd be guaranteed the time off work. Today I got the nod so went to book it using BookWithMatrix and lo and behold all three suggested companies say at least one flight is unavailable, AA.com suggests other routes via DFW and ORD which aren't any use to me. I've read through the rules and don't think I have a problem but you never know.

I fully understand they could have pulled the fare but I thought it strange as it still loads on ITA even rerouting through BOS and PHL etc. There are at least 50 different itineraries showing so would there be a way to find where the problem lies without having to reselect flights time after time? If needs be I can wait until later in the year but I figured £2000 for 1080tps and a nice little break in HNL was a good price for me.

I've now tried a route from OTP and one from AMS and they are also in ITA but not available to book. Could this be as simple as it needs to be done over the phone? If it is, then I apologise for wasting people's time although it would be nice to know if I stand a chance before I rattle off a long itinerary to an unsuspecting agent!

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Old Apr 26, 2019, 10:40 pm
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Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but am seeing LHR-SOF return in CE for as low as 225 GBP eg Dec 7th - Dec 12. 6,330 Avios for a BA GCH and 160 TP @ £1.40/TP.
As always BA Low Fare Finder good place to start any search.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by Dicksbits
Trying to get this before Dec 08th for my partner in his quest for Gold. Extremely difficult! Been working the system in late autumn for a while, with no results.
try jer->lux-OTP-lux-lhr. I mentioned it uptgeead and it’s a good earner that can be done in a weekend. I saw some Jer ans shuffles in 2019 but they needed a weekday return to AMS. Note that they were also a bit more expensive, £279 I think, but PP softens that a little
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by alwaysquestions
I fully understand they could have pulled the fare but I thought it strange as it still loads on ITA
I can't get this route on ITA for less than £3553 in November.

Perhaps they have pulled the fare.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 3:25 am
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Originally Posted by Fossiebear
Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but am seeing LHR-SOF return in CE for as low as 225 GBP eg Dec 7th - Dec 12. 6,330 Avios for a BA GCH and 160 TP @ £1.40/TP.
As always BA Low Fare Finder good place to start any search.
Thanks for that. Bagged a BA holiday based around the flights.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 3:48 am
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Originally Posted by Fatdickie
One of the TP runs featured on the wiki is

AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH
£0.95/TP
£479
560tp

investigating this as a possible first real TP run, However to do this you need to pass through CMB twice 😱

Due to the recent announcments by the Foreign office, advising not to travel to colombo, is this still ok, as would only be transiting through the airport ?
Yes still ok to transit airside: https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a8886601.html
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by Fossiebear
Not sure if mentioned elsewhere but am seeing LHR-SOF return in CE for as low as 225 GBP eg Dec 7th - Dec 12. 6,330 Avios for a BA GCH and 160 TP @ £1.40/TP.
As always BA Low Fare Finder good place to start any search.
good positioning option for some ex Sofia things too possibly. Nice spot
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by snaxmuppet
I can't get this route on ITA for less than £3553 in November.

Perhaps they have pulled the fare.
I've just searched it again and I can get it to price at £2004

I'm working at the moment but I'll try ringing AA later on.

AQ
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 4:52 am
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Originally Posted by flyuk
Thanks for that. Bagged a BA holiday based around the flights.
Just booked 3 of us out 7 dec back 8!
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by bisonrav


try jer->lux-OTP-lux-lhr. I mentioned it uptgeead and it’s a good earner that can be done in a weekend. I saw some Jer ans shuffles in 2019 but they needed a weekday return to AMS. Note that they were also a bit more expensive, £279 I think, but PP softens that a little

Is there a jer - lux route then? Didn't know about that.
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by dicksbits
is there a jer - lux route then? Didn't know about that.
jer-(lon)-lux-(lon)-otp
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by wilsnunn


jer-(lon)-lux-(lon)-otp
Is this a return trip over 3 days via BA multi city tool?

I tried it at the end of Oct over the last weekend and it was coming in at £845 pp!
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Old Apr 27, 2019, 12:05 pm
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Originally Posted by alwaysquestions

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I found an ideal trip for me the other day on ITA Matrix. Unfortunately at the time I hadn't confirm that I'd be guaranteed the time off work. Today I got the nod so went to book it using BookWithMatrix and lo and behold all three suggested companies say at least one flight is unavailable, AA.com suggests other routes via DFW and ORD which aren't any use to me. I've read through the rules and don't think I have a problem but you never know.

I fully understand they could have pulled the fare but I thought it strange as it still loads on ITA even rerouting through BOS and PHL etc. There are at least 50 different itineraries showing so would there be a way to find where the problem lies without having to reselect flights time after time? If needs be I can wait until later in the year but I figured £2000 for 1080tps and a nice little break in HNL was a good price for me.

I've now tried a route from OTP and one from AMS and they are also in ITA but not available to book. Could this be as simple as it needs to be done over the phone? If it is, then I apologise for wasting people's time although it would be nice to know if I stand a chance before I rattle off a long itinerary to an unsuspecting agent!
I finally managed to sort it all out thanks to Propeller Travel (Thanks Victor). AA couldn't work the problem through but Victor came up trumps.
It turns out a couple of the I class availability had gone but booking into D only put the price up to £2200 which suits me.
£2.03 / TP and nearly a week in HI.
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