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Old Jan 4, 2019, 9:09 am
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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 3:52 am
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Hi All,

Going to Japan for the Rugby World Cup. Based in London but happy to position.

I've been looking at Qatar in business from CPH to NRT - 560TP Return for £1506 = £2.69/TP which isn't great.

Just wondering if anyone has any other routes i could look at for a better £/TP rate?
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 4:40 am
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Originally Posted by SuperDuper
Hi All,

Going to Japan for the Rugby World Cup. Based in London but happy to position.

I've been looking at Qatar in business from CPH to NRT - 560TP Return for £1506 = £2.69/TP which isn't great.

Just wondering if anyone has any other routes i could look at for a better £/TP rate?
The problem you'll find is that a lot of people will want to be there for that period, and that rugby fans tend to have more purchasing power than your average "other sports" fan.

Because it's not such a big sport over the pond, I would suggest looking at deals via the US. It will probably come in more expensive, so it depends if you're looking for a better £/TP ratio, or for a lower price.
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 4:42 am
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Originally Posted by SuperDuper
Hi All,

Going to Japan for the Rugby World Cup. Based in London but happy to position.

I've been looking at Qatar in business from CPH to NRT - 560TP Return for £1506 = £2.69/TP which isn't great.

Just wondering if anyone has any other routes i could look at for a better £/TP rate?
That's just about as good as it gets for Japan, unless you want to position in DME, which in turn is more expensive. I've been eyeing fares to Tokyo for a long time and I'm really tempted to get this one you found.

The fare, if it still exists, was about 1350 GBP for DME-LHR-HKG-NRT on CX.
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 7:03 am
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Originally Posted by thebigben
That's just about as good as it gets for Japan, unless you want to position in DME, which in turn is more expensive. I've been eyeing fares to Tokyo for a long time and I'm really tempted to get this one you found.

The fare, if it still exists, was about 1350 GBP for DME-LHR-HKG-NRT on CX.
The fare still exists, sadly it’s no longer anywhere near that attractive price - £1,600 - £1,800 is the going rate these days and positioning to DME can’t be done on a BA b2b service without a visa. You’d need to transit from somewhere else to enable you catch the DME-LHR sector without a visa which adds annoying complexity to the deal.

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Old Jan 15, 2019, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Fossiebear
Was just able to book the following itinerary found on matrix and booked through Propellor Travel: ... 920TP for a cost including agency fee 1,550 USD (£1,205).
Thanks, this is encouraging as I've been struggling to price this up on Matrix. Guessing you didn't manage to get it to price on AA/Priceline hence Propellor?
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 4:30 pm
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Thats pretty much right! When using Powertools the AA site came up with a higher price, presumably based off their own fare rules, whilst the only OTA to come up with a price was Cheapoair and that failed at payment stage. Propellor travel turned it around same day.

Initially finding the fare in Matrix itself was straightforward starting with LHR HEL JFK LAX in the route coding. IB I class seemed far more readily available on the Finnair codeshare so i worked backwards from that.

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Old Jan 16, 2019, 7:16 am
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Is it still the case that you can do one big wadge of points in one trip and go up two tiers in one go?
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 7:25 am
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Is it still the case that you can do one big wadge of points in one trip and go up two tiers in one go?
I guess if you can find the right itinerary and depending how much you're prepared to pay you could go blue to gold in one trip as long as there's 4 BA metal sectors included (assuming you've not flown any other BA legs and are starting from absolute zero)
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I guess if you can find the right itinerary and depending how much you're prepared to pay you could go blue to gold in one trip as long as there's 4 BA metal sectors included (assuming you've not flown any other BA legs and are starting from absolute zero)
BA CW ex-Europe fare plus some AA bouncing etc. Doable, but have to weigh up if its worth it or not.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 9:05 am
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Has anyone been able to use the LCY-JFK flight for this fare, exOTP Advanced Purchase Fare AA ILW8C8S6 to PHX ?
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 9:14 am
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Has anyone been able to use the LCY-JFK flight for this fare, exOTP Advanced Purchase Fare AA ILW8C8S6 to PHX ?
No reason why you can't. The babybus is not excluded from the fare. If you are searching on itamatrix you will need to use the AA codeshare to get the AA fare, BA1 is AA6229 and BA2 is AA6228.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 10:09 am
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Hello guys,

any sweet idea about how to combine a TP run and a weekend in Washington?
Currently still being able to find MAN-SFO at ca 1,500£ but seems odd to then fly back and forth to IAD just for the weekend

thanks!
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 10:28 am
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Originally Posted by 81romeo
Hello guys,

any sweet idea about how to combine a TP run and a weekend in Washington?
Currently still being able to find MAN-SFO at ca 1,500£ but seems odd to then fly back and forth to IAD just for the weekend

thanks!
Do you have dates, TP's needed etc? This would narrow it down very much for those who are very good at looking at TP runs.

It's VERY normal for FTr's to go for a short/long weekend to XYZ long haul

I once went to Seoul for 1 night when BA relaunched the route on a 777 for £777 and I felt normal on that one given there were 73 others who went along!
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 10:41 am
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Sure!

ca. 800 TP needed to confirm GGL/CCR - year end is 8th May :-)
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 10:45 am
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Originally Posted by PETER01
Do you have dates, TP's needed etc? This would narrow it down very much for those who are very good at looking at TP runs.

It's VERY normal for FTr's to go for a short/long weekend to XYZ long haul

I once went to Seoul for 1 night when BA relaunched the route on a 777 for £777 and I felt normal on that one given there were 73 others who went along!
with regards to long haul short weekends I’ve done those a few times too - including JFK, MIA, HKG from LHR and LHR from SIN 😛

...it would just be a bit of an overkill to fly on a TP run to SFO and then off to IAD for the weekend from there 😬😬
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