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Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2018 Tier Point thread (found here). We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.

Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.

This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.

A new guideline thread for TP meetups has been created on 31 March 2020. If you would like other members to join your TP, or if you want to organize a TP run with other members. Please visit there. From the first few posts over there you could see the active ( confirmed ) TP meetings and the links to their relevant discussion threads, connect with other members and learn the details about the run. Click here to access that thread.

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See here in post 9 for a 2019 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2018 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.

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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies

Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines

Please remember to:
  • Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
  • Post full routes and full booking classes.
  • Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
  • List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.

Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.

From Europe

15 Oct £0.96/TP £154 160 TPs LHR-SOF (2021 dates)
24 Feb £1.90/TP £152 80TP MAD-FRA Z/Z LA (available Feb-Mar 2019, immediate turnarounds possible)
10 Aug £2.06/TP £329 160TP LHR-MAD-RAK RAK-MAD-LHR I/I/I/I IB (available August, Sat night stay) BA.com, note hotels on offer until 26 March
3 Jul £2.99/TP £2,758.45 920TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB J/I/I/I/I/I/I/J Fare basis INX4C3S4 and INN4C1S4. Booked on AA via ITA Matrix Powertools script
18 Dec £1.90/TP £1370 720TP DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-LAS-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB All I class Flights 25 December to 31 March 2020, transatlantic Mon to Thur. Offer to 18 Dec. ITA details booked by TA Propeller
27 Apr £2.29/TP £640TP BEG-DOH-KUL-PEN-KUL-DOH-BEG I / I / I / I / I / I Fare IJR2R1RE Bookable on QR.com

From North, Central and South America
10Jan £1.52/TP £668 440tp JFK-BOS/CLT-LAX-LAS-LAX-BOS/CLT-JFK I / I / I / I / I / I HPN-HRL AA (find with ITA; probably have to book via a TA)
12Apr £0.90/TP £215 240tp DCA-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I/I/I/I/I/I/I AA Found with ITA, booked on the AA site with BookWithMatrix
23Apr £ 0.76/TP £ 182 240TP DCA-PHL-CLT-RDU-CLT-ORD-DCA I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Apr £ 1.04/TP £ 459 440TP YVR-LAX-CLT-ATL-CLT-LAX-YVR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
23May £ 0.70/TP £ 169 240TP EWR-ORD-CLT-RDU-CLT-DFW-EWR I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools
24Jun £ 0.52/TP £ 128 240TP LAX-DFW-PHX-SJC-PHX-DFW-LAX I / I / I / I / I / I AA Found with ITA Matrix, Book on AA.com via BookWithMatrix or PowerTools

From Middle East, Asia and Australasia

04/01 £0.95/TP £479 560tp AUH-CMB-CGK-CMB-AUH I / I / I / I cgtechuk UL
1FEB £1.49/TP £1,673 1,120tp PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-BKK Return (All book in I Class) timcjp BA (Ticket sold by BA, flights are on QF, BA & JL and lie flat seats available for all sectors)
23/04 £2.07/TP £2,112 1020TP CAI-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-DFW-ORD-LHR-CAI I/R here (All flights must be BA numbered)

From Africa
04/01 £1.80/TP £721 400tp CPT-JNB-GRU-JNB-DUR-CPT I / Z / Z / I / I ubiest LA

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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post 4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...

For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times

Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.

If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.

Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here

Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread (here), MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and return on Sunday for well under £500.

Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).

Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 9:17 am
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Taking a ride to PDX - very pleased as meeting Mrs Our_Kid out there for our wedding anniversary

INV-LHR-JFK-LAX-PDX//PDX-LAX-JFK-MAD-NCE-LHR

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Old Jan 18, 2020, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by our_kid
Taking a ride to PDX - very pleased as meeting Mrs Our_Kid out there for our wedding anniversary

INV-LHR-JFK-LAX-PDX//PDX-LAX-JFK-MAD-NCE-LHR

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fab, looks like you got a great routing with the two Europe legs at the return, similar to my trip JER-LON-MAN-PHL-LAX-PDX-LAX-JFK-LCY in July.

When are you going.

im also seeing some great fares to CPT Ex-OSL atm that are very tempting.
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 9:50 am
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Picking up an earlier thread about getting 300ish tier points before the 8th of Feb reset - and with thanks to among other Flying Yazata and alex67500 - it looks like a good option is;

4th LHR - HEL
5th HEL - AGP
5th AGP - HEL
6th LHR - HEL

This comes in under £1k (around £1k with airport hotel) so not the most optimum tier point run ever but with time being premium. The timings of the flights doesnt work doing it over two days (unless I am missing something) - this works for me time wise - just a quick check if the 50 minuter turn-around time in AGP is fesible? B2B thread says it is excellent for Schengen and assuming its the same aircraft going back again.

Ready to press button - so just a final double check I have not missed anything
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by tomgone
Ready to press button - so just a final double check I have not missed anything
Based on the dates, I assume you're doing a daytime run? The nocturnal one would've saved you one hotel night. It's doable with a Sa or Su departure, not other weekdays. Don't look all too much at the B2B thread in this subforum. It's BA focused. But yes, I can vouch for the B2B with AY. You'll even have time to get bored in the gate area, once you've exited the aircraft at AGP.

Nice to hear you took advantage of the advice. Sure, not the cheapest combination, but you highlighted time, so I thought that might be one for you. I personally don't count pennies in terms of TPs, but I know some are very obsessed with the £ per TP.
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by Flying Yazata
Based on the dates, I assume you're doing a daytime run? The nocturnal one would've saved you one hotel night. It's doable with a Sa or Su departure, not other weekdays. Don't look all too much at the B2B thread in this subforum. It's BA focused. But yes, I can vouch for the B2B with AY. You'll even have time to get bored in the gate area, once you've exited the aircraft at AGP.

Nice to hear you took advantage of the advice. Sure, not the cheapest combination, but you highlighted time, so I thought that might be one for you. I personally don't count pennies in terms of TPs, but I know some are very obsessed with the £ per TP.
Weekend is a possibility so will have a quick look. Dont tend to look to hard at £ / TP. Appreciate the feedback on the B2B and will be careful not to get too bored Many thanks again, checking the night time options and then pressing the big button. Much appreciated!
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by navylad
fab, looks like you got a great routing with the two Europe legs at the return, similar to my trip JER-LON-MAN-PHL-LAX-PDX-LAX-JFK-LCY in July.

When are you going.

im also seeing some great fares to CPT Ex-OSL atm that are very tempting.
Thanks navylad - first week of October for me, apparently Fall in Portland meant to be a great time to go

Pleased with the routing and surprised I got the Transcon in as I only put it into Matrix as a test. Previously I was looking at heading to LGA to take a flight to CLT so really pleased.
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 11:03 am
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Originally Posted by Airprox
AA HNL-GEO via JFK $1,372

Are we all off to Guyana?
It is certainly possible to get at least 840 TPs for about £1235, so under £1.5 per TP. (apologies Wilsnunn - I don't know how to multiquote!)

HNL-GEO appears to work both ways and doing HNL-LAX-LAS-JFK-GEO rtn (or vv) nets 920TP @£1.38 each; however, I have yet to find anything reasonable to either HNL or GEO from LON or an exEU...anyone else had any joy?

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Old Jan 18, 2020, 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Only1BD
Originally Posted by Airprox
AA HNL-GEO via JFK $1,372

Are we all off to Guyana?
It is certainly possible to get at least 840 TPs for about £1235, so under £1.5 per TP. (apologies Wilsnunn - I don't know how to multiquote!)

HNL-GEO appears to work both ways and doing HNL-LAX-LAS-JFK-GEO rtn (or vv) nets 920TP @£1.38 each; however, I have yet to find anything reasonable to either HNL or GEO from LON or an exEU...anyone else had any joy?
Had a quick look for flights to GEO and I found a few, not particularly good, but if combined with your 920TP @ £1.38 per TP, it does still come in at under £2 per TP.

DUB: £1881 (DUB-LHR-JFK-GEO) for 640TPs
KEF: £1938 (KEF-LHR-JFK-GEO) for 720TPs

Note that I did not check that the dates/timings of these work with the GEO flights (or indeed that GEO-HNL works)
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by wilsnunn
Had a quick look for flights to GEO and I found a few, not particularly good, but if combined with your 920TP @ £1.38 per TP, it does still come in at under £2 per TP.

DUB: £1881 (DUB-LHR-JFK-GEO) for 640TPs
KEF: £1938 (KEF-LHR-JFK-GEO) for 720TPs

Note that I did not check that the dates/timings of these work with the GEO flights (or indeed that GEO-HNL works)
To get the deal to Geo, you have to have a fare originating in HNL, so you would need to get out there first.

DUB-LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-LAX-JFK-LHR-DUB £2411 for 920 TP (2.6£/TP) https://flights.app.goo.gl/QH3Uz

HNL-PHX—JFK-GEO-JFK-PHX-LAX-HNL £1156 for 880 TP £1.31£/TP https://flights.app.goo.gl/ezmqu

If you combine the two this gives you 1800 TPs for £3567 which is £1.98 £/TP. Now obviously, you can do some experimenting to maximise the dates and I suspect you may be able to get the total trip down to around £1.6/TP. You can obviously get better TP to £ ratios and if your starting off in the US, the HNL to GEO is an example, but if your Europe based, and want 1800 TPs and are time poor, this is a way to do it.

Going the opposite direction is possible as a TP run, but you will get less TPs and the value isn't so good, for example

DUB-LHR-JFK-GEO-JFK-LHR-DUB for £1889 for 640 TP £2.95/TP https://flights.app.goo.gl/3Y2a1

GEO-JFK-PHX-LAX-HNL-LAX-PHX-JFK-GEO £1312 for 920 TP £1.43/TP https://flights.app.goo.gl/rduzE

Total £3201 for 1560 TPs which is £2.05/TP. this is 240 less TPs, for £366 then flying out to HNL and then using the deal. Obviously it has the advantage of being slightly cheaper and less flying, if you only needed 1560 TPs, such as if you wanted to fly it just after your collection year reset to attain gold for the year and the next, you may prefer it.

post posting note\: I have subsequently used ITA matrix to see if I can optimise the fare, Flying Dub- HNL and then HNL-GEO. best I can get from my quick search is £3453.27 for 1840 TPs £1.87/TP.
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by navylad
To get the deal to Geo, you have to have a fare originating in HNL, so you would need to get out there first.
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Sorry read your post incorrectly navylad
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Old Jan 18, 2020, 11:31 pm
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GEO mini do?
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by Garimi
GEO mini do?
That's not a mini-do, that's a marathon do
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by alex67500
That's not a mini-do, that's a marathon do
Distant-wise maybe, but the real marathon DO itinerary was for last summer Thread available BA PANAMA DO June 2019 16 segments! That many is no longer possible, unfortunately.

The HNL-GEO deal was originally posted in the general Premium Fare Deals. Thread available here . In this thread, the dominating interests seem to be on TP optimisation. As this fare has the potential of getting a lot of attraction, my suggestion is that all further discussion is made in the PFD thread, just as everything around the DXB/AUH-CGK deal is continuously monitored in the original thread, also in the PFD forum.
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Old Jan 19, 2020, 5:12 am
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Thanks to all on this thread -- just booked my first ever TP runs to PDX and SIN!

I've been BAEC Gold for the last 6 years, but won't requalify on regular flying alone. My current collection year ends on 8 Sep, but my card will hold until 31 Oct. So, I figured if I can smash it to 1500 TPs between 8 Sep and 31 Oct, I can ensure Gold until 31 Oct 2022...

For PDX, I went with the itinerary below. It's not the cheapest routing out there, and I will be dropping the final segment, but (i) I can do it with only one day off work, (ii) I'll take the inefficiency for a run I can do in and out of London without repositioning, (iii) I get to try the new Club Suite and (iv) I'm really looking forward to a gut-busting Saturday in Portland. That'll get me 680 TPs. Am I right in thinking that the LHR-MAN leg (as it has a BA flight number) will count toward my 4 flights on BA metal?

I've also booked a combination of BA/QR tickets for LHR-SOF-DOH-SIN-DOH-SOF-LHR for £1538.74 total, which will be another 720 TPs. That'll leave me an easy 100 TPs short. (PS - The LHR-SOF-LHR leg was £262.34 for 160 TPs, which is a pretty good £1.63/TP if anyone needs a quick top up.)

Thanks again everyone!

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Old Jan 19, 2020, 5:49 am
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Originally Posted by hearingdouble
Am I right in thinking that the LHR-MAN leg (as it has a BA flight number) will count toward my 4 flights on BA metal?
You get three qualifying flights with that itinerary.
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