Jan 1, 2019, 7:09 am
Last edit by: binman
2019 POUG rate tracker
Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you. Please delete any figures from 2018 or earlier if you have a 2019 price. Previous data lives on via post 2.
UPDATED TO: Post #9
POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner (example from MMB below). You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.
Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).
- ABZ - 69 (to and from LHR, Feb/May 2019, ex-LHR Oct 2019)
- ACE -119 (to LGW, Nov 2016)
- AGP 79 (Feb 2016, LCY), 99 (Jan 2019, ex-LGW), 119 (to LGW, July 2017), 99 (AGP-LHR Oct 2019)
- ALG - 99 (practically always)
- AMS - 79 from LGW (Feb 2017), 69 for LCY-AMS (May 2017), 79 for LCY-AMS (Dec 2018),69 for AMS-LCY (May 2017, June 2017), 79 for LCY-AMS (May), 79 for LHR-AMS (Oct 2018), AMS-LHR 69 Nov 2019 for March 2020
- ANE - 69 (Mar 2016) ex LCY
- ARN - 129 ex-LHR (July 2018), 129 ex-ARN (Aug 2018)
- ATH - 149 - both ways (Jun 2017)
- BCN 119 from LHR (Apr 2017), 119 (to LHR, May 2019)
- BHD - 69 (to and from LHR, Oct 2019)
- BDS - 60 (March 2017)
- BGO - 69 (out and back LHR Jan 2019)
- BIA - 59 (Jan 2019)
- BIO - 89 (BIO-LHR Nov 2019)
- BLL - 69 (to LHR, Jul 2017)
- BLQ - 69 (to LHR, Jun 2017), 89 (Jun 2019)
- BOD - 49 (Oct 2019, both ways), 89 (Dec 2019)
- BRI - 60 (March 2017)
- BRU - 129 (Jan 2016), 130 (Dec 2016) 89 (To LHR, May 2017)
- BSL - 129 (from LHR, May 2019) CHF 190 (Feb 2016), CHF 169 (Dec 2018)
- BUC - 129 (from LHR, July 2019)
- BUD - 149 (to LHR, Nov 2018), GBP149 (to BUD, December 2017)
- CDG - 49 each way Jan 2020 99 (each way, July 2019) 59 (from LHR, Oct 2019)
- CGN - 89 (to LGW, Aug 2018)
- CHQ - 245 (Dec 2016)
- CMF -
- CPH - 109 (Jun 2017), 129 (to LHR, Jan 2017), 129 (from LHR [HBO ticket], Feb 2019)
- CTA - 109 (to LGW, Jan 2017), 89 (Sept 2019)
- DBV - 89 LGW (Nov 2015)
- DUB - 89 (to LCY Aug 2018 on HBO fare), 99 (to Dublin from LHR Aug 2018 on HBO fare) 89 (Oct 2018), 99 (to LHR, Jan 2019), 89 (April 2019), 59 (to LHR on HBO fare) 75 (LCY-DUB, Nov 2019)
- DUS - 69 (to/from LHR, Jan 2019) 79 (to LCY, Jul 2017); 69 (from LHR, May 2019) 69 (from/to LCY, July 2019)
- EDI - 70 (from LGW, May 2018), 69 (to LHR, April 2019), 59 (to LCY, Jul 2018), 69 (from LHR, Aug 2018), 59 (to LCY Jan 2019), 70 (from LGW Jan 2019)
- FAO - 119 (to LGW, Jul 2017)
- FCO - 89 (from LGW, Aug 2018), 99 (to LCY, Sep 2019)
- FLR - 89 (Nov 2018); 89 (Jan 2020)
- FRA - 69 (to LCY Apr 2018) 49 (Oct 2017) / 49 and 50 (Aug 2017) /49 (to LHR, Aug 2017), 59 to LHR (May 2017), 109 (from LHR, Aug 2018), 109 from LHR July 2019
- GIB - 149 (Oct 2018), 149 (to LHR Oct 2019)
- GLA - 65 (to LHR, Mar 2017) (From LHR April 2019 - 69) (to LCY 59 Oct 2019)
- GOT 59 (Oct 2019)
- GVA - 139 (From LHR May 2018), 89 (ex LGW, Mar 2019), 99 (LHR-GVA and v.v., Dec 2019)
- HAJ - 90 (Jan 2017) 99 (to LHR, Jun 2017) 109 (July 2018)
- HAM - 69 (to LHR, April 2017) 79/69 (from LHR, April/June 2017)
- HEL 120 (Apr 2017) (from/to LHR 169, April 2018) 159 (August 2018)
- IBZ - 69 both ways (June 2016)
- INN 79 to INN, 89 to LHR (Feb 2018)
- INV 79 each way (April 2019), 59 (to INV, Oct 2019), 59 (to INV Nov 2019)
- IST - $169 (to LHR December 2018), 129 (June 2020)
- JER - 79 (Apr 2019) - price has remained same for several years.
- JMK - 239 (from LHR Jun 2018), 239 (to LHR July 2018)
- KBP - 179 (Jul 2017)
- KEF - 169 (Apr 2017). Note system offered 239 but contact centre staff got the cost down!
- KRK - 509 PLN to LHR (April 2019)
- LBA 59 (both ways, Aug 2017), 49 (October 2019)
- LCA - 199 ( LHR - both ways Nov 19)
- LED - 189 (Oct 2015)
- LIN 129 (Feb 2019), 119 (Jan 2019 from LCY), 99 (to LHR, Oct 2019)
- LIG - 79 both ways (including Eastern operated in one direction) June 2018
- LIS 85 (to LGW, Feb 2017) 139 (from LHR Nov 2018) 99 (Each way Sep 2019 for Jan 2020 flight).
- LPA - 119 (Mar 2020)
- LUX - 59 (each way, Mar 2018), 59 LHR-LUX (Nov 2019)
- LYS - 89 (March 2018), 89 (Nov 2018), 89 (April 2019)
- MAD - 79 LCY-MAD (Jan 2017), 159 LHR-MAD (Jan 2019, May 2019), 159 MAD-LHR (Aug 2019), 99 LHR-MAD (Nov 2019)
- MAH - 129 (Jul 2017)
- MAN - 59 (October 2018) offered in both directions. Same price from LCY (Dec 2018 - both directions)
- MLA - 119 (Aug 2018) 99 from LGW June 2019.
- MPL - 130 (Mar 2017)
- MUC - 119 (Feb 2018), 89 from LCY Dec 2019.
- MJV - 70 (Nov 2016 from HBO, also Feb 2017 same price).
- MRS - 119 (ex-LHR, May 2018). 89 (Jul 2017), 109 (to LHR, Nov 2016 HBO, Weekend Daytrip ex LHR)
- MXP - 149 from LHR Jan 2020 149 (from/to LHR April 2018) 129 (Jun 2017)/ 109 (to LHR, Feb 2017) 99 (To LHR, Aug 2017). 139 (LHR to MXP, Oct 2019)
- NAP - 79 (Apr 2019) 89 (May 2019, from LGW)
- NCE - 138 (May 2017), 125/149; 89 (to LHR, May 2017), 149 (from STN, Apr 2017) 89 (from LGW, May 2017, again June 2018) 69 (to LCY, May 2017)
- NCL - 59 (from/to LHR, Apr 2019) - price has remained the same for several years.
- NTE - 80 (Mar 2017)
- OPO - 99 (Nov 2019, both ways)
- ORY - 85, 89, 119 (Jan 2017)
- OSL - 124 (NOK1379, OSL->LHR, Dec 2017), 129 (to OSL, Jan 2018 for May), 129 (May 2018 for Aug)
- OTP - 129 (Nov 2018) usually 202-239,
- PEG - 69 (Dec 2019)
- PFO - 119 (Sep 2015)
- PMI - EUR 119 (to LCY, Jan 2019) 99 (LGW, Oct 2019)
- PRG - 119 (Jan 2019)
- PRN - 149 (Dec 2019)
- PSA - 170 (Apr 2017)
- PUY - 119 (Apr 2017)
- PVK - 139 (Feb 2019)
- RAK - 99 ( May 2018, from LGW) 99 ( Oct 2018, to LGW), 99 (Nov 2018 LHR-RAK)
- RTM -
- SKG - 99 (Sep 2019, from LGW) / 99 (Oct 2019 from LGW)
- SOF - 149 (to LHR, Apr 2019); 149 (both ways for travel in Dec 2019); LHR-SOF (HBO) 49 (Dec 2019)
- STR - 70 (Feb 2017) 115/99 (to LHR, Jan 2017/Feb 2017) 109 (Either way Nov 2018)
- SVG - 99 / NOK 720 (Dec 2015),
- SVQ - 99 (June 2019/Nov 2019 both ways)
- SZG - 69 (to LGW and from LGW to SZG for travel in May 2020)
- TFS 139 (to LGW, Mar 2017) 119 (to TFS for travel in March 2020)
- TIA
- TLL - 60 (Mar 2017), 79 (Aug 2017 for Nov)
- TLS - 99 (Oct 19) (to LHR)
- TRN - 69 (to LGW and from LGW to TRN for travel in May 2020)
- TXL - 129 (Feb 2018, March 2019, ex-LHR), 129 (to LHR, March 2018 for April), 139 (to LHR, Jan 2019), 129 (from LHR, March for July, 2019).
- UIP -
- VCE - 119 ex-LHR (Apr 2018), 89 (from LGW, Sep 2019), 79 (to LCY, Sep 2019)
- VIE 159 (to LHR, May 2017) 129 (to LHR, April 2018) 129 (to LHR, from a Basic fare, Jan 2019) 109 to LHR (Nov 2019 for Jan 2020)
- VLC - 99 (May 2019)
- VRN - 109 (Jul 2017)
- WAW - 115 (Jan2017) / 475 PLN (79) (Oct 2015) 109/139 (To LHR, Jun 2017)
- ZAG - 130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015; 89 (to LHR for travel in Oct 2019)
- ZRH - 69 (LCY July 2017), CHF189/148 (To LHR, May 2018, Dec 2018), 149 (from LHR, Mar 2019)
- ZTH - 135 (March 2017)
Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUS WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW 473 (Feb 2015)
- BOS WTP 198 (Jul 2017), CW 352 ex-BOS (Jan 2018), CW 352 ex-LHR (Jan 2018), WTP $351 (Jan 2019), WTP 299 (Mar 2019; BA213)
- BWI WTP $248 to BWI / WTP $256 to LHR (Mar 2017), CW $306 to LHR (Jan 2018)
- DFW CW $850/380 (Feb 2017/Mar 2017) 525 (Apr 2017)
- EWR WTP $256 (Jan 2016) see also JFK
- JFK WTP 279 (Oct 2018) and then down to 238 (Nov 2018), CW 501 (Nov 2019 / Club Suite flight) see also EWR, WTP 238 (Jan 2019)
- IAD WTP 190 / 216 (Feb 2017), 269 (Nov 2017) CW $525 (Jul 2017) WTP $171 (May 2018 on an Avios booking)
- IAH CW 408 (Apr 2019)
- LAS CW 927 (Jul 2019)
- LAX WTP 248 (January 2019), CW 540 (Feb 2015), F $702 (June 2019)
- MEX WTP 235 (Jan 2017),CW 468 (Jan 2017). F 447 (Oct 2014)
- MIA WTP 204 (Dec 2019), WTP 160 (Aug 2017), CW 420 (Jan 2017) FIRST 599 (August 2019)
- OAK CW 464 ex LGW (Feb 2018) and 508 (Oct 2018)
- ORD CW 520 (March 2019), CW 400 (Oct 2019)
- PHL F 575 (Feb 2017) CW 330 (Oct 2018)
- PHX CW $1,080 (May 2017)
- PIT WTP 288 (Aug 2019)
- SFO WTP $310 (Nov 2015), CW $552 (offered Aug, for Dec 2017) CW $799 (offered Sep 2018 for Oct 2018) F $779 (offered Feb 2019 for Mar 2019)
- SJC WTP 259 (April 2019)
- TPA - WTP 260 (Nov 2019)
- YUL CW 549 (Mar 2017)
- YVR - WTP 209 (Jun 2017), CW 595 (Jan 2017), CW 441 (Aug 2018)
- YYZ - WTP 168 (Aug 2016), CW 549/449 (May 2017) WTP to CW (Mar 2019) $765
- SEA - WTP $288 (Mar 2018) F $659 (Dec 2019)
Long haul routes from LON to South America and the Caribbean
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BGI - WTP 249 (Mar 2019)
- GIG - WTP 239 (Oct 2019)
- PUJ - WTP 216 (Oct 2019)
- TAB - see post 6 (Jan 2019)
Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP 229 / 240 (Aug 2016), CW 549 (Aug 2016)
- BOM WTP 249 (May 2018)
- BLR CW 350 (Sep 2017)
- DEL WTP 189 (Jan 2017), CW 352 (May 2018)
- HKG - WTP 165/270 (Mar 2017), CW 486 (Jan, Apr 2017), CW 629 (Seo 2017), CW 820 (June 2018)
- ICN - WTP 152 (Sep 2016)
- KUL - F 649 (Feb 2016)
- NRT - WTP 207 (Apr 2015)
- PEK - WTP 165 (Apr 2016)
- PVG WTP 200 (Mar 2017), CW 460 (Mar 2017)
- SIN - WTP 439 dropped to 396 (May 2019), CW (to LHR) 495 (Apr 2017)
Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- LHR-SYD WTP 159 (Apr 2015)
Long haul routes from LON to Moscow, Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH WTP 105 (Feb 2017) CW 425 (Jan 2017), F 379 June 2019
- CAI - WTP 109/155 (May 2017) CW 399 (from WT, Jan 2017)
- CPT WTP 92 (Apr 2016)
- DME - CW 340 (from WTP, Jun 2019)
- DXB WTP 119/153 (Jul 2017) CW 425 (Feb 2017) WTP 127 (Aug 2017), F 509 (Mar 2019), CW on A350 599 (Sep 2019), CW on 777 561 (Nov 2019) WTP 209 (Dec 19)
- JED WTP 229 LHR-JED & 252 JED-LHR
- JNB - WTP 229 (Feb 2016), CW 540 (Jan 2017), CW 510 (Feb 2017), WTP 297 (Nov 2019)
- KWI WTP 100 (to LHR, Aug2017), CW 449 LHR>KWI (July 2019)
- MCT - CW 450 (March 2017), CW 522 (Sept 2017)
- RAK - CE 99 (Dec 2015)
- TLV - WTP 118 (May 2017) WTP 150 (April 2018) WTP 145 (May 2019)
- TLV - CW 120 (Sept 2015)
- TLV - F 280 (Aug 2019)
Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH WTP 129 (May 2017); CW 425 (May 2017) WT - WTP 161 (Dec 2018), WTP - CW 161 (Dec 2018) F 379 (June 2019)
- BGI - WTP 199 (Oct 2016)
- BKK - CW 399 (Jul 2017)
- BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), WTP 270 (Mar 2019), CW $680 (Mar 2016), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015)
- BOM - CW 499 (July 2016), CW to F INR 46,665, approx. GBP 530 (29-Jun-18 for 30-Jun-18 1.45am departure)
- DEL - WTP 209 (Jan 2017)
- DEN- CW 473 (May 2017
- DFW - WTP 255 (May 2017) CW $680 (to LHR, Mar 2017)
- DME - WTP 145 (Apr 2016), CW 320 (from WTP, June 2019)
- DOH - CW 592 (Oct 2019)
- DXB - WTP 109 (Jun 2017), CW 350/425 (Mar 2017) WTP 150 (Aug 2017)
- EWR - CW 473 (Sep 2016) see also JFK
- GIG - WTP 218 (Oct 2019) CW 399 (Aug 2016), F 447 (Jan 2015)
- HKG - WTP 161 (Jan 2015)/ HK$2700 (Mar 2017)
- HKG - CW 599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April, also offered for May 2016), CW 540 (Jan 2017) CW 697 (May 2018)
- IAD - CW $780 (Jul 2017) CW 540/485 (Feb/Mar 2017)
- IAH - WTP 209 (June 2017), CW $850 (June 2017)
- JFK - CW $693 (Nov 2019) F 525 (May 2017), F $999 (Jan 2016) see also EWR, CW 501 (Dec 18), WTP 252 (Jan 2019), WTP 239 and 279 (Jan 2019), WTP 198 (Mar 19)
- JNB - CW 599 (Feb 2017)
- KWI - WTP 226 (Oct 2018)
- LAX - WTP 198 (January 2019)
- LAS - F 599 (Jul 19)
- MCT - CW 450 (Mar 2017)
- MCO - WTP 170 (Mar 2016) WTP 160 (Sept 2017) WTP 192 (Feb 2019)
- MEX - CW 447 (Apr 2016)
- MSY - CW 549 (Apr 2017)
- MIA - WTP 204 (Dec 2019)
- NBO - CW 518 (Jan 2018)
- OAK - CW 480 (Feb 2018) and 508 (Oct 2018)
- ORD - WTP 189 (Feb 2016) 310 (Feb 2019), 270 (Apr 2019) CW 473 (Nov 2015) increased to 525 in 4 hours.
- PEK - WTP 198 (Apr 2016), CW 549 (Aug 2015)
- PHL- CW $579 (Apr 2017) WTP 309 (September 2019)
- PHX - CW $765 (Feb 2017)
- PIT - WTP 299 (Jan 2019)
- SCL - CW 425 (Apr 2017)
- SEA - WTP 207 (Feb 2016) CW 593 (October 2019)
- SFO WTP $310 (Nov 2015), CW $819 (May 2019)
- SFO - F $950, then $855, then back to $950 two days before dep (Feb 2017)
- SIN WTP 198 (Feb 2017), CW 495 (Jun 2017) WTP - 198 (Jan 2017), CW 649 (Jun 2019)
- SJC - WTP $239 (June 2019), CW 809 (Feb 2017) CW $1,046 (Jun 2017), CW 599 (May 2018)
- TLV - WTP 127-136 Jan 2017) $240 (Jun 2016)
- TLV - CW 190 (March 2019)
- YUL - WTP 180 (Jun 2016) CW 449 (Mar 2017)
- YYC - WTP 189 (Aug 2016)
- YYZ - WTP 189 (July 2016), CW C$723 (Nov 2015), F 499 (Mar 2017)
- YVR - WTP 209 (Jun 2017)/C$459 (Aug 2017), CW 425 (Mar 2017), F C$900 (Mar 2016)
- SEA - WTP $319 (Mar 2018)
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Pro-active Online Upgrade (POUG) tracking and discussion | 2019 thread
Oct 19, 2019, 3:22 pm
#376
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / SQ *A Gold / Marriott Titanium
Posts: 3,591
Hi, yep, that was the Q. i.e. why after UuA it still appears as the original selling class T, not U?.
Certainly not expecting extra TPs, just find it curious. It makes me wonder that if that T is showing, should the F cabin be empty nearer to the date then a regular POUG may become available because the system sees it as T (a regular, upgradeable WTP ticket) not U (one that has been upgraded already and therefore unlikely to be eligible for a poug). But I guess the system will not process a T to first as that would mean jumping CW.
Certainly not expecting extra TPs, just find it curious. It makes me wonder that if that T is showing, should the F cabin be empty nearer to the date then a regular POUG may become available because the system sees it as T (a regular, upgradeable WTP ticket) not U (one that has been upgraded already and therefore unlikely to be eligible for a poug). But I guess the system will not process a T to first as that would mean jumping CW.
Oct 19, 2019, 3:37 pm
#377
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bradford, England
Programs: BA GGL/CCR , HH Diamond
Posts: 274
Offered upgrade to CE for LGW to SKG flight on October 21st for 99. A very useful extra 60 TPs and couple of thousand Avios to boot so wasted precisely zero time mulling this one over! 
Oct 19, 2019, 6:02 pm
#378
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland & London
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Mucci des Salons Ouvrants
Posts: 3,077
DOH to LHR WTP to CW for 592. Original ticket was paid for with miles.
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Oct 20, 2019, 3:59 am
#379
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, Vietnam Airlines Lotusmiles Platinum
Posts: 2,378
Oct 20, 2019, 5:39 am
#383
Moderator: British Airways Executive Club
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Scotland & London
Programs: BA GGL, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Mucci des Salons Ouvrants
Posts: 3,077
Oct 20, 2019, 2:15 pm
#384
Join Date: Aug 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold, Radisson Gold
Posts: 67
LHR-BRU, 59 (usually 79). Offered at OLCI as it is a TA booking.
On a side note, I was originally going to UuA but got an error message online and when I contacted BA was told that the reason they can't do it is because the fare is unpublished and I should ask the TA to publish it. Is this something the TA can actually do?
On a side note, I was originally going to UuA but got an error message online and when I contacted BA was told that the reason they can't do it is because the fare is unpublished and I should ask the TA to publish it. Is this something the TA can actually do?
Oct 20, 2019, 2:25 pm
#385
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 4,709
INV-LHR 59, had been sitting on 79 for months. Offered during OLCI too.
Oct 22, 2019, 7:27 am
#386
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Mexico
Programs: BAEC Gold / SQ *A Gold / Marriott Titanium
Posts: 3,591
LHR to MXP - 139 today for April flight. No way.
LIN to LHR - 99 today for April flight, slightly more tempted, but probably still a no.
Wiki updated
LIN to LHR - 99 today for April flight, slightly more tempted, but probably still a no.
Wiki updated
Oct 22, 2019, 7:31 am
#387
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Godalming, Surrey, UK.
Programs: Nowt of note.
Posts: 1,628
LHR-GVA and v.v. 99 (dropped from 139 a few weeks ago), flight in Dec.
Oct 23, 2019, 2:20 am
#388
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,399
Just received an email "Mr dnw, Upgrade for less" relating to an upcoming WT+ trip to NY. Advertising special offer upgrade pricing to Club World without mentioning the price. Click through upon receipt and no POUG offered (unless the special pricing referred to is 4k....), however it is less than 48hrs (greater than 24) since I booked... is this just BA's wonderful IT not scheduling CRM emails correctly? Does the 48hr wait for POUG state in the wiki still apply?
Oct 23, 2019, 7:50 am
#390
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,399
To answer my own question, yes, BA's CRM system is out of sync with that which allows POUG. About 5 hours after the email and exactly 48hrs after booking the POUG offer appeared at 501 (LHR-JFK WT+ to CW, Nov 2019). I'll pass on that, but take it later if it drops to 399 / 425.