Tallinn Dropped
#16
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Helsinki
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#17
Join Date: Apr 2017
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#18
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Cambridgeshire
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I did actually take the BA Tallinn flight for the destination in summer 2017 - but as someone has observed, one visit is enough to see everything interesting, and the place is made hideous by cruise ship hordes. So when I do a TP + tourism run to HEL next summer I won't bother to take the ferry across.
Doing TP runs to MLA, RAK and CTA in the next few months!
Doing TP runs to MLA, RAK and CTA in the next few months!
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#19
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Have you actually been to Tallin?- I rather enjoyed it and am glad that I went when it was a direct route. I'm sure that a lot of people who actually live there could be rather hurt by that statement. I'd not go in winter, and I too prefer the summer months as I long the almost endless days. I'd actually like to spend some days and see the more rural side of Finland.
#21
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I have - twice in fact. Once on a day trip from HEL in May and once for 3 nights in its own right in August (flying via HEL, obviously).
Indeed, the old town is a nice place to explore on a sunny day, but lots of cruise ship crowds around. And you can't deny that the weather is a bit cool and often wet, even in the summer. The beach is bleak (although hopefully nobody goes for the beach).
Whereas rural towns in southern Italy are also characterful and charming, but about 20 degrees warmer!
Indeed, the old town is a nice place to explore on a sunny day, but lots of cruise ship crowds around. And you can't deny that the weather is a bit cool and often wet, even in the summer. The beach is bleak (although hopefully nobody goes for the beach).
Whereas rural towns in southern Italy are also characterful and charming, but about 20 degrees warmer!
#22
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: HEL
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Posts: 141
We folks in HEL (and probably TLL) are horrified with all the tourist crowds from Asia (brought by AY) and old-Europe - so it is just great that capacity is lowered.
And those TP runners. OMG. Invading our lounges.
And those TP runners. OMG. Invading our lounges.
#23
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I have - twice in fact. Once on a day trip from HEL in May and once for 3 nights in its own right in August (flying via HEL, obviously).
Indeed, the old town is a nice place to explore on a sunny day, but lots of cruise ship crowds around. And you can't deny that the weather is a bit cool and often wet, even in the summer. The beach is bleak (although hopefully nobody goes for the beach).
Whereas rural towns in southern Italy are also characterful and charming, but about 20 degrees warmer!
Indeed, the old town is a nice place to explore on a sunny day, but lots of cruise ship crowds around. And you can't deny that the weather is a bit cool and often wet, even in the summer. The beach is bleak (although hopefully nobody goes for the beach).
Whereas rural towns in southern Italy are also characterful and charming, but about 20 degrees warmer!
I do agree with you about the weather. It rained for quite a bit on our trip, but the first day going into town was delightfully bright and sunny (June). We had looked at the forecast and had planned the museum stuff for less clement days. I also liked the fact that the airport is really quite close to the town and though there was no lounge the place was deserted. I never went near the beach, it was far too cool for that. What I can say is that we were most cordially welcomed and found the people friendly and agreeable. I adore southern Italy but especially Sicily. I first diecovered it when we operated charters down there in 1-11s and had - depending on loads - to make a stop in Nice for refuelling because of the runway length. We stayed an extra three nights because Etna kicked off and the wind affected visibility so the flight could not leave. I do recall that we had to take local catering as all the stuff from LGW had to be dumped. I could not help thinking how much better it was than our usual offerings!
#24
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: UK
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We have actually been to HEL (for 3-4 day breaks on each occasion) 3 times over the past 2 years. Going again next month for the Christmas market- it's a lovely city- not too large and very manageable with children. Excellent public transportation, boats to the islands and a great buzzing harbour front with food stalls etc.
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Tallin suspension - Customer Guidelines
Summary
British Airways has announced the suspension of London (LHR) to Tallinn (TLL) services, the last flight will depart on Friday 29 March 2019.
The following guidelines are available to assist any customers affected by this suspension.
More information
Route affected: LHR - TLL (Tallinn)
Tickets issued by: 30 October 2018
Ticket travel dates: 2 April 2019 onwards
Rebook onto British Airway: Use standard customer guidelines
Rebook only using the following classes: Business - C, D, Z, I & Economy - E, M, H, Q, V, W, U, K, L, T, O, G, X, N
Must add OS SK INVOL AGMT BA/SK
Then book a connecting flight on a British Airways operated service between STO and LHR or vice versa. Rebook into the same class as original or lowest available in the same cabin
Rebook only using the following classes: Business - C, D, Z, I & Economy - E, M, H, Q, V, W, U, K, L, T, O, G, X, N
Must add OS SK INVOL AGMT BA/SK
Then book a connecting flight on a British Airways operated service between CPH and LHR or vice versa. Rebook into the same class as original or lowest available in the same cabin
Origin/Destination/Stopover changes
Yes - As per standard customer guidelines
Refunds Allowed
Yes - as per standard customer guidelines
Redemptions included
Yes
Important Information
One involuntary ticket change allowed from the above options. Adherence to commercial policies/conditions of carriage guidelines remains entirely the responsibility of the user. BA reserves the right to withdraw guidelines at any time
Summary
British Airways has announced the suspension of London (LHR) to Tallinn (TLL) services, the last flight will depart on Friday 29 March 2019.
The following guidelines are available to assist any customers affected by this suspension.
More information
Route affected: LHR - TLL (Tallinn)
Tickets issued by: 30 October 2018
Ticket travel dates: 2 April 2019 onwards
Rebook onto British Airway: Use standard customer guidelines
- Rebooking Allowance onto other airlines 1
Rebook only using the following classes: Business - C, D, Z, I & Economy - E, M, H, Q, V, W, U, K, L, T, O, G, X, N
Must add OS SK INVOL AGMT BA/SK
Then book a connecting flight on a British Airways operated service between STO and LHR or vice versa. Rebook into the same class as original or lowest available in the same cabin
- Rebooking Allowance onto other airlines 2
Rebook only using the following classes: Business - C, D, Z, I & Economy - E, M, H, Q, V, W, U, K, L, T, O, G, X, N
Must add OS SK INVOL AGMT BA/SK
Then book a connecting flight on a British Airways operated service between CPH and LHR or vice versa. Rebook into the same class as original or lowest available in the same cabin
Origin/Destination/Stopover changes
Yes - As per standard customer guidelines
Refunds Allowed
Yes - as per standard customer guidelines
Redemptions included
Yes
Important Information
One involuntary ticket change allowed from the above options. Adherence to commercial policies/conditions of carriage guidelines remains entirely the responsibility of the user. BA reserves the right to withdraw guidelines at any time
#27
Join Date: Jul 2009
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We have actually been to HEL (for 3-4 day breaks on each occasion) 3 times over the past 2 years. Going again next month for the Christmas market- it's a lovely city- not too large and very manageable with children. Excellent public transportation, boats to the islands and a great buzzing harbour front with food stalls etc.
The problem is that Tallinn isn't Helsinki. It's not in the same country either even if there are numerous similarities.
Yes, it's a 15-20 minute flight away or a short ferry ride, but outside of Tallinn, there really isn't anything major, at least in the guide books.
The country is still getting on it's feet and has only really had it's own identity for the last 2-3 decades.
I can't really say what the level of English is outside of Tallinn and unless you speak Finnish or suchlike, I would put odds on you having issues outside of the two main cities.
Unfortunately, Tallinn is seen as a stopover point rather than a destination. In time, this may change, but for the time being, Tallinn and Estonia provide a very limited arena within Europe.
#28
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: LON
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The problem is that Tallinn isn't Helsinki. It's not in the same country either even if there are numerous similarities.
Yes, it's a 15-20 minute flight away or a short ferry ride, but outside of Tallinn, there really isn't anything major, at least in the guide books.
The country is still getting on it's feet and has only really had it's own identity for the last 2-3 decades.
I can't really say what the level of English is outside of Tallinn and unless you speak Finnish or suchlike, I would put odds on you having issues outside of the two main cities.
Unfortunately, Tallinn is seen as a stopover point rather than a destination. In time, this may change, but for the time being, Tallinn and Estonia provide a very limited arena within Europe.
Yes, it's a 15-20 minute flight away or a short ferry ride, but outside of Tallinn, there really isn't anything major, at least in the guide books.
The country is still getting on it's feet and has only really had it's own identity for the last 2-3 decades.
I can't really say what the level of English is outside of Tallinn and unless you speak Finnish or suchlike, I would put odds on you having issues outside of the two main cities.
Unfortunately, Tallinn is seen as a stopover point rather than a destination. In time, this may change, but for the time being, Tallinn and Estonia provide a very limited arena within Europe.
However, my TP runs are normally 1 or 2 nights at the most, so not much time to get into proper back-country. Also nice to get a few days away from the London autumn/winter weather.
#29
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC Gold, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 222
Really disappointing to see another route suspension from BA and imho quite an interesting route which I had on my future radar.
So BA have now suspended LHR-BIO, MAH, MJV, TLL and TRN and have converted PMI and PMO to seasonal services. This is in addition to the axing of PSA, VLC and BCN from LGW. It seems BA are scaling back their short haul route network.
So BA have now suspended LHR-BIO, MAH, MJV, TLL and TRN and have converted PMI and PMO to seasonal services. This is in addition to the axing of PSA, VLC and BCN from LGW. It seems BA are scaling back their short haul route network.
#30
Join Date: Aug 2013
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