Baby Cot in F 747
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Baby Cot in F 747
I've seen photos of the Brittax seat used in F, and know that on a 747 it is placed 5F. Our little one will be 14 months old at the time of flight next year.
With both 1A/1K available for the flight I'm looking at, I wondered how necessary it is that the Brittax goes into 5F. Will it fit in other seats for example?
The flight time would be around 7 hours each way, and we will likely have the travel buggy, but I appreciate she cannot sleep in that in the aisle (even though between 1A/1K there is probably space for it to fit).
Does anyone have any experience of using the Brittax?
Thanks in advance,
M
With both 1A/1K available for the flight I'm looking at, I wondered how necessary it is that the Brittax goes into 5F. Will it fit in other seats for example?
The flight time would be around 7 hours each way, and we will likely have the travel buggy, but I appreciate she cannot sleep in that in the aisle (even though between 1A/1K there is probably space for it to fit).
Does anyone have any experience of using the Brittax?
Thanks in advance,
M
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No it only fits this seat. There is a table/bench that it fits on and this needs to be attached directly to the seating area which means that it has specific mountings that can only be found in this seat.
At 14 months you may want to look at the size of your child. Unless they are relatively small or certainly no more than average then I wouldnt think it was the most comfortable place. Our 1 year old was ok in it but other older daughter would never have been at that age.
Unless you think they will definetly sleep 1A/1k might be a better option as they can have room on the floor between the seats to play. And if they do sleep you could have dinner together.
At 14 months you may want to look at the size of your child. Unless they are relatively small or certainly no more than average then I wouldnt think it was the most comfortable place. Our 1 year old was ok in it but other older daughter would never have been at that age.
Unless you think they will definetly sleep 1A/1k might be a better option as they can have room on the floor between the seats to play. And if they do sleep you could have dinner together.
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I've generally struggled to find useful information on old babies and bassinet seats. We're in F on 777/787 in Dec and currently have the official bassinet seats booked, but is there any point in doing this for a 20 month old, or are they going to be too big anyway? I don't want to take the bassinet from someone that may need it and would rather have a better seat for ourselves.
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We've had the full range of responses to this from CC on over 20 BA flights in F & CW, long-haul, short-haul etc etc with our now eight-month old. I'm sure BA policy is exactly as CIHY says. Our experience, however, is that it really does vary quite dramatically (even between members of CC on the same flight). What didn't vary was the requirement to put your infant in a seat belt when the seat belt light goes on. That was enforced on every single flight.
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I wouldn’t worry about taking a bassinet seat from anyone else, I have only seen two babies in First when they are twins. Only you know if you baby is going to sit in a car type seat, if they are not or you think they are too big you can choose another seat if you prefer.
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I've generally struggled to find useful information on old babies and bassinet seats. We're in F on 777/787 in Dec and currently have the official bassinet seats booked, but is there any point in doing this for a 20 month old, or are they going to be too big anyway? I don't want to take the bassinet from someone that may need it and would rather have a better seat for ourselves.
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We've had the full range of responses to this from CC on over 20 BA flights in F & CW, long-haul, short-haul etc etc with our now eight-month old. I'm sure BA policy is exactly as CIHY says. Our experience, however, is that it really does vary quite dramatically (even between members of CC on the same flight). What didn't vary was the requirement to put your infant in a seat belt when the seat belt light goes on. That was enforced on every single flight.
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Hang on, the implication here is that we don't take our son's safety seriously, which we do. No judgement please!
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I know Ill likely get vilified for saying this, but personally I dont think theres a place for infants in an F or J cabin. Between the possible disruption they may cause when someone has paid thousands of pounds so they can sleep on a flight and the fact that copious amounts of alcohol are being served, I personally dont think its a good environment for a very small child.
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
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I know I’ll likely get vilified for saying this, but personally I don’t think there’s a place for infants in an F or J cabin. Between the possible disruption they may cause when someone has paid thousands of pounds so they can sleep on a flight and the fact that copious amounts of alcohol are being served, I personally don’t think it’s a good environment for a very small child.
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
Keep in mind that the parents might also have paid thousands of pounds, and would also quite like a quiet night. And let's not forget that the infant has been charged a fee too.
Personally, the most disruption to passengers and alarm caused to CC I've experienced in BA F has been from rowdy, inebriated adults. Give me the screaming infant over them anytime!
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Does the same rule apply in the middle CW seats where there are many posts about using this area? Personally I would be more worried about fingers getting trapped in seat mechanisms.
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I know Ill likely get vilified for saying this, but personally I dont think theres a place for infants in an F or J cabin. Between the possible disruption they may cause when someone has paid thousands of pounds so they can sleep on a flight and the fact that copious amounts of alcohol are being served, I personally dont think its a good environment for a very small child.
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
My big fear is a meltdown in December: the story of my brother's MEL-AUH flight in Y with his 18month old is making me worry.
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I know Ill likely get vilified for saying this, but personally I dont think theres a place for infants in an F or J cabin. Between the possible disruption they may cause when someone has paid thousands of pounds so they can sleep on a flight and the fact that copious amounts of alcohol are being served, I personally dont think its a good environment for a very small child.
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
I flew back from Chicago in J 2 years ago and a mother & father with 2 toddlers were also onboard. Both spent the entire overnight flight screaming with the father walking around the cabin trying to settle them as the mother ignored it. The crew were clearly exasperated but said nothing. The remainder of the business cabin were furious.
Im aware some airlines (MH?) limit children from their premium cabins, for me more airlines should be brave enough to take this step
Just my 2c
Perhaps we should ban alcohol on flights rather than children to stop copious amounts being drunk?
Children cry. Its not a crying infant that is a problem but what the parent does or does not do about it. Besides I have had more problems with adults on flights than children.
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That's exactly what we do, and it's very pleasant and pretty unobtrusive for other customers. The bigger point here is that - within what is permitted by CC on board - I really think how a parent parents on board a plane is up to them.