Heathrow Third Runway Approved by Parliament
Jun 6, 2018, 8:34 am
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So in the future, with economic growth, a direct non stop BOS-DEL may appear and that’d be a loss to BA, HAL, London, UK, but another opportunity may arise to replace any losses, so as we know it’s a fluid situation.
Jun 6, 2018, 9:11 am
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The HS2 Heathrow spur would come at a considerable cost and, I believe, the investigation found that too few people would use it! What HS2 will have is a stop at Old Oak Common which itself will be linked to Heathrow - Elizabeth Line?
Jun 6, 2018, 11:06 am
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Heathrow expansion with a 3rd runway will not happen. The NoX figures will prevent it. Even Heathrow airport itself in its 2014 report on NOX said that one has to assume zero traffic growth, and herculean other changes dreamt up in its Mitigation Strategy document, to get the NOX down to legal levels. They have not updated this report as I guess they've lost their flying pigs.
It is also advocating moving the NOX meters to where they won't find any NOX. Clever, huh!.
As to noise, while airlines, BA in particular, continue to use RR engined 747s the noise will not decrease. It still has c 36 of them, with, apparently, something like 34 "in storage" (??) (Airfleets.net). They are supposed to be all gone in 6 years time. And pigs might fly.
The real solution? - Build Boris Island with 21st century rail links and flog off LHR to the highest bidder to use for offices/housing/whatever. In the meantime, build LGW2 free from public subsidy, (and flatten the Belgrano)
It is also advocating moving the NOX meters to where they won't find any NOX. Clever, huh!.
As to noise, while airlines, BA in particular, continue to use RR engined 747s the noise will not decrease. It still has c 36 of them, with, apparently, something like 34 "in storage" (??) (Airfleets.net). They are supposed to be all gone in 6 years time. And pigs might fly.
The real solution? - Build Boris Island with 21st century rail links and flog off LHR to the highest bidder to use for offices/housing/whatever. In the meantime, build LGW2 free from public subsidy, (and flatten the Belgrano)
Jun 6, 2018, 12:29 pm
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Jun 6, 2018, 12:39 pm
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Possibly something to do with being a large grey construction with a potential to be the source of nuisance that really needs sinking for the good of all concerned.
Jun 6, 2018, 1:06 pm
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Dear oh dear.
Jun 6, 2018, 1:21 pm
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Aside for employer NIC duty on drinks in the lounges, road tax on it's vehicles and APD British Airways pays its taxes in Spain. Since airfares are VAT except it seems likely that BA gets a large VAT rebate each quarter.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:09 pm
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Plus don't employees pay taxes? And BA's suppliers? And their employees? And HAL itself (£53m in the last year)?
Reality is all passengers even in transit contribute to the economy.
Jun 6, 2018, 2:20 pm
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Jun 6, 2018, 11:57 pm
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Have you read this report that claims to prove the Hub proposal is safer than the 3rd parallel runway?
Not getting at you, but I’ve requested a copy numerous times from the Hub organisation and have never heard back, despite them continually claiming the safety benefits on Twitter.
Jun 7, 2018, 12:19 am
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Totally agree should be building two extra runways at LHR and one further a LGW and also should be planning infrastructure to improve links between these two hubs plus from the Midlands and North of England and not waiting until capacity is breached again. Infrastructure planning in Uk has been abysmal for last forty years