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Old May 14, 2018, 8:12 am
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Jumping the security queue in the First Wing

I have not seen a thread on this before so wondered if I am the only person surprised at why people are so pressed for time that they feel the need to jump a 5 minute queue at 6am on Monday morning after having evidently cleared conformance?

As a weekly commuter I know that Monday’s first flights to Europe are normally busy and at 6am you can expect to wait in one of the two short lines rather than stroll straight through.

This morning there were two jumpers in the space of a couple of minutes. One escorted by BA staff and the other just went straight to the front so I assumed she was very late until I saw her having breakfast in GF a few minutes later....

Anyone else surprised at why people feel the need to jump a short queue? It is not as if the First Wing has got people who are dawdling and don’t know what to do.

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Old May 14, 2018, 8:31 am
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i think it would be entirely reasonable for there not to be queue jumpers at TFW - there really should be no need as you say. I have only seen a handful of occasions where there are more than 3-4 people waiting. I think a gentle and diplomatic challenge may be in order to the jumper if they try it.

for the BA escorted person they might be a VIP and that nay be part of the treatment they are used to and BA provide to them - completely necessary of course but what can you do.
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Old May 14, 2018, 8:50 am
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I've never seen it happen and I would think the only reasonable justification would be if the passenger is very pressed for time indeed. I've once seen one machine open and a queue back to the BP check - but even then the queue moved pretty quickly.

So - maybe VIPs? I don't see why VIPs should be getting special treatment unless for justified security reasons but I'd hardly see TFW as a particularly risky place.
Anyway, what makes VIPs in the first place? Who decides?? Celebrities? Give me a break. MPs? Certainly not. Cabinet ministers? Also not. Maybe foreign dignitaries to show hospitality and politeness - but I kind of assumed they went through another channel and had a Jaguar to the plane?

Maybe full fare F tickets? I think anyone paying full F might deserve it!
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Old May 14, 2018, 9:47 am
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Do you mean at check in or at the x-ray machines? I see no reason for anyone to push in at check in, but stepping round someone who is taking an age to unload laptops, remove belts & shoes etc. if you are ready to walk straight through the scanner is a different story.
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Old May 14, 2018, 9:52 am
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Originally Posted by Robespierre
This morning there were two jumpers in the space of a couple of minutes. One escorted by BA staff and the other just went straight to the front so I assumed she was very late until I saw her having breakfast in GF a few minutes later....
(My emphasis)

I think you know why there - she must have been desperate for breakfast!

Not that I condone queue jumping without a really, really good reason (desperation for breakfast doesn't count) and profuse apologies.
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Old May 14, 2018, 9:54 am
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Do you mean at check in or at the x-ray machines?
Bypassing about 20 people waiting for the X-ray machine (both sides were about the same) with the queues moving quickly.

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Old May 14, 2018, 9:55 am
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We have ‘jumped’ the queue at the First Wing once, after a grindingly slow NEx coach from LGW due to traffic. This was around 1300.

We were getting desperately close to missing our flight to DUB (and later onwards to OGG, full story in the TR in my signature). We explained this to the Greeter, who ushered us to the front of everyone to a ‘spare’ desk. We then, to our surprise, encountered several ‘fumblers’ at Security (please note, OP!)

It is possible that one of those seen were in a similar state of stress.
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:03 am
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Just politely say to them See you next Tuesday.
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:08 am
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I have seen this many times at check in (where there is often a queue to be jumped) and a couple of times at security (where there normally isn't). Unfortunately, the F Wing is wonderful but a significant percentage of the other passengers are not.
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:22 am
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I was once accused of pushing in at LCY security because I managed to load my tray(s) with my stuff much quicker than the woman next to me and push them on to the main belt through to the scanner. Not sure why she expected me to wait until she had sorted herself out.

And a couple of times at INV I've moved around someone who patently wasn't ready - no need to hold up the entire queue!
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:40 am
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This loutish behaviour is quite despicable. Too many Gold morons and other entitlement folk.
Might I recommend the Economy section at Stansted instead? Brilliant queue management, and lovely, polite, well trained staff. A speedy and hassle free Boarding experience at most times of day.
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
This loutish behaviour is quite despicable. Too many Gold morons and other entitlement folk.
Might I recommend the Economy section at Stansted instead? Brilliant queue management, and lovely, polite, well trained staff. A speedy and hassle free Boarding experience at most times of day.
Yes I've witnessed this sort of behaviour several times. It's a part of premium flying and owning status I really dislike.
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Old May 14, 2018, 10:52 am
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Originally Posted by Ancient Observer
Might I recommend the Economy section at Stansted instead? Brilliant queue management, and lovely, polite, well trained staff. A speedy and hassle free Boarding experience at most times of day.
Having been through STN the weekend just gone I can suggest the whole experience through security is worse than LHR - STN is owned by Manchester Airport Group and for those of us already familiar with MAN the experience will be very familiar
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Old May 14, 2018, 12:01 pm
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I was the one escorted at 6am this morning and the only reason was simply bad time management skills (and a very unlucky Monday morning).
I scanned my BP literally 30 seconds before the offloading rule and I was about to get in line when the agent got back to me very worried as my flight was already boarding from the B gates and insisted in escorting me to the front of the line as I would have missed my flight otherwise. I was sincerely very embarrassed but I appreciated the gesture as the line was of at least 20 people as the Op mentioned.
I boarded on the final call and that little "push" probably saved me.
I'm pretty sure this kind of treatment could be enlisted as a reason why - almost - everyone here loves to fly BA.
I really apologise if that annoyed someone!!
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Old May 14, 2018, 12:29 pm
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printingandbreakfast anyone?
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