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Mid-J 747 Refurbishments
In April 2018 BA announced that they had started a programme to refurbish the cabins on the Mid-J 747-400 fleet. In January 2020, this programme was completed.

As part of the refurbishment all of the aircraft involved have undergone a basic refresh which consisted of:

* Full aircraft deep clean
* Seats in WT/WTP refurbished with new seat foams and cushions as on Super Hi-J aircraft

9 of the aircraft received an ENHANCED refurbishment to bring the cabin up to the same standard as the Super Hi-J 747-400 fleet. This consisted of what is listed above plus:

* New carpets fitted throughout
* All curtains replaced
* New Panasonic IFE fitted in all classes

Note: It was initially believed that the enhanced refurbishment included LED mood lighting throughout, but this is not the case. All retained standard lighting. There were no plans to install WiFi to any Mid-J configured 747-400 aircraft.
Refurbishment Progress
Note: Aircraft that have undergone an ENHANCED refurbishment are shown in red

Aircraft are listed below in the order that they were refurbished and show return to service date, along with retirement date where applicable.

G-CIVM - 03 April 2018 - Retired 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVN - 22 April 2018 - Retired 16 Apr 2020
G-CIVD - 28 June 2018 - Retired 8 August 2020
G-CIVO - 14 October 2018 - Retired 11 September 2020
G-CIVT - 11 November 2018 - Retired 3 April 2020
G-CIVA - 14 January 2019 - Retired 3 April 2020
G-CIVJ - 28 January 2019 - Retired 15 April 2020
G-CIVC - 03 March 2019 - Retired 6 November 2020
G-CIVE - 24 March 2019 - Retired 16 September 2020
G-CIVP - 08 April 2019 - Retired 21 September 2020
G-CIVL - 20 April 2019 - Retired 14 April 2020
G-CIVU - 11 October 2019
G-CIVK - 25 October 2019 - Retired 26 September 2020
G-BNLY - 24 November 2019
G-CIVB - 25 January 2020 - Retired 8 October 2020



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Old May 6, 2019, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
Which flight number were you on? The timing of your post suggests that it was a 28 April 2019 departure.

It looks like there was a flight that evening on an aircraft that has literally just had the cabin refresh done. But that wasn't G-BNLN.
it was NLN (writren over emerg exit) and the seats (not ife screens) was refurbished - crew confirmed it and it was obvious also visually
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:22 am
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Jensen
it was NLN (writren over emerg exit) and the seats (not ife screens) was refurbished - crew confirmed it and it was obvious also visually
It would be good if this could be confirmed by someone else who's flown on the aircraft.

None of the usual "official" sources has yet stated this. I include the BA Source in this, as that website's information is usually first-rate insider knowledge.

However, since April 2018 (when the mid-J refresh was announced), G-BNLN has had these periods of maintenance:-
  • [*]
  • [*]
Off the top of my head, I don't think that any of those durations matches what it has normally been taking to do the mid-J refresh (3-4 weeks or so, I think).

Which flight number were you on?
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:29 am
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Jensen

it was NLN (writren over emerg exit) and the seats (not ife screens) was refurbished - crew confirmed it and it was obvious also visually
NLN written over an exit? I don't recall the registrations ever being written over the exits? Which of the 12 was it? Inside I assume you mean?

Originally Posted by Globaliser
It would be good if this could be confirmed by someone else who's flown on the aircraft.

None of the usual "official" sources has yet stated this. I include the BA Source in this, as that website's information is usually first-rate insider knowledge.

However, since April 2018 (when the mid-J refresh was announced), G-BNLN has had these periods of maintenance:-
  • 12 January 2019 - 17 January 2019 (CWL)
  • 24 March 2019 - 29 March 2019 (CWL)
Off the top of my head, I don't think that any of those durations matches what it has normally been taking to do the mid-J refresh (3-4 weeks or so, I think).

Which flight number were you on?
I think its nonsense myself. The crew are often not the most up to date with information, even the people on the phone and Twitter support are really out of date at times. Also agreed none of those periods are anywhere near long enough for the maintenance to take place.
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by Globaliser
It would be good if this could be confirmed by someone else who's flown on the aircraft.

None of the usual "official" sources has yet stated this. I include the BA Source in this, as that website's information is usually first-rate insider knowledge.

However, since April 2018 (when the mid-J refresh was announced), G-BNLN has had these periods of maintenance:-
  • 12 January 2019 - 17 January 2019 (CWL)
  • 24 March 2019 - 29 March 2019 (CWL)
Off the top of my head, I don't think that any of those durations matches what it has normally been taking to do the mid-J refresh (3-4 weeks or so, I think).

Which flight number were you on?
BA206 28 april seat 52B (window where only 2 seats) but i flew with NLN 2 january this year also to Miami seat 29K - and it was not a recovered seat

yes the NLN is marked with a streamer over the emerg exit over the wings
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by george77300
NLN written over an exit? I don't recall the registrations ever being written over the exits? Which of the 12 was it? Inside I assume you mean?



I think its nonsense myself. The crew are often not the most up to date with information, even the people on the phone and Twitter support are really out of date at times. Also agreed none of those periods are anywhere near long enough for the maintenance to take place.
All the BA 747’s and A380’s have the reg written on the doors on the inside. At least all the ones i’ve been on.
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:46 am
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Jensen
NLN is marked with a streamer over the emerg exit over the wings
Originally Posted by bmibaby737
All the BA 747’s and A380’s have the reg written on the doors on the inside. At least all the ones i’ve been on.
Good to know and I had no idea. Thanks both. Not something I have ever noticed. ^
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Old May 9, 2019, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by Kenneth Jensen
BA206 28 april seat 52B (window where only 2 seats) but i flew with NLN 2 january this year also to Miami seat 29K - and it was not a recovered seat
It is all very odd, then. From every other source, this is an aircraft that hasn't been refreshed, and is not logged as having been in maintenance for long enough to have been refreshed.
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Old May 11, 2019, 1:09 pm
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BA0206 MIA - LHR 12 May

I am scheduled to fly BA0206 tomorrow, 12th May - does anyone know where I can find which plane?

flightradar not yet showing

Thanks in advance
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Old May 11, 2019, 2:13 pm
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I am scheduled to fly BA0206 tomorrow, 12th May - does anyone know where I can find which plane?

flightradar not yet showing

Thanks in advance
just keep an eye on Flightradar would be your best bet.
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Old May 11, 2019, 2:34 pm
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Old May 12, 2019, 1:36 pm
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G-CIVN has operated the outbound.
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Old May 13, 2019, 6:47 pm
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Flew out to LAS on 6/5 on G-CIVP and it had been refurbed, new IFE was great, and the plane was spotless, flying back to LHR tonight on G-CIVU which going by BA Source has not yet been refubed, not looking forward to it now after experiencing the panasonic IFE, will get some pictures on the return leg
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Old May 15, 2019, 11:18 am
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Hi guys,
My first post!

Flying out to Las Vegas from LHR on Aug 19. Planning on booking TW+ on BA275. Has anyone flown this route on any of the upgraded planes yet and could shed some light on the upgrades?

Apologies in advance if this isn't the right place to post this question!!

Br,
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Old May 15, 2019, 12:13 pm
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Hey welcome.

I’m sure some long-standing member will provide the official welcome soon.

You’re in the right thread but Las Vegas has tended to be a sore thumb and get the older 747s non-refurbed but with the amount of refurbs 747 done now, your chances are much better.

IFE is the main benefit, as well clean, up-to-date interiors and WiFi (if the aircraft has it) refurbs aren’t always given the WiFi as I believe it’s done separately.

If you provide a date and/or flight number others may give a clearer insight for your travels.

Happy flying.


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Old May 15, 2019, 3:37 pm
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Hi guys,
My first post!

Flying out to Las Vegas from LHR on Aug 19. Planning on booking TW+ on BA275. Has anyone flown this route on any of the upgraded planes yet and could shed some light on the upgrades?

Apologies in advance if this isn't the right place to post this question!!

Br,
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What price are you considering for WT+? As it’s often £1,100-1,200 direct, and there can be far more comfortable ways to get there for similar for not much more:

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...9*2.GBP.137869

https://www.google.co.uk/flights/#fl...2*2.GBP.124382



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