Jan 1, 2018, 5:20 am
Last edit by: OWBA
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2017 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
From North, Central and South America
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below.
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from JER to PDX IKN8T1S6 reported in this post, e.g. PDX £1,082, needs to be booked by 8 May, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from OTP to PHX ILN8C8S4 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,296, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,340, see linked post for details
See here in post #9 for a 2018 archive of exEU sale fare, and see this post in the 2017 thread for last years’ archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
Code:
3Feb 200TPs DUB-LHR-HEL/HEL-LHR all I class ba.com
23Sep £1.48/TP £650 (US$853) 440 TPs JFK-CLT/BOS-LAX-LAS and return all I class aa.com
6Sep £1.50/TP US$457 240TPs RIC-CLT-DCA-BOS, BOS-LGA/PHL-CLT-RIC all I class aa.com
Jan/Feb wide open £1.94/TP £700(US$883) 360 TPs SEA-CLT-MCO-PHX-SEA all I class aa.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
18Jan £1.58/TP £883 560 CMB-xHKG-CGK return I cathaypacific.com ermen CX
28Feb £1.44/TP £575 400 MCT-DOH-BKK-DOH-MCT A/R/R/A travel.americanexpress.co.uk QR
21Feb £1.53/TP £860 560 HKG-CMB-MEL return I Expedia.com.hk Firemin UL
16Mar £1.22/TP £687 560 CGK-CMB-DXB return I srilankan.com Firemin UL
01Apr £0.87/TP £314 360 PEN-KUL-KTM return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.19/TP £335 280 KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
01Apr £1.28/TP £335 360 PEN-KUL-PER return Malaysian.com cgtechuk MH
05Apr £2.00/TP £320 160 CAN-HKG-TPE return CathayPacific.com littlevoices CX/KA (flexible fare, bookable up to 24 hours in advance, allows stopovers, book with CX directly)
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. Some information on how to use ITA matrix is in post #4 of this thread (or just click here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest along with UK domestic returns. Additionally you may find that trips in to mainland Europe require a one night stay whereas the cheapest domestic CE returns do not have any minimum stay so can be booked as a same day return. If doing a back to back AMS and JER can be easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround - more information can be found in the back to back thread listed in the forum dashboard. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). UK domestic route, Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seem the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post of this thread, MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports).
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520.
DUB-LHR-HEL return (or return to LHR) is currently a very efficient way of hitting 200-240 TPs
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Historic information
2017 Archive
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
BA Tier Point Runs | 2018 master thread
Aug 2, 2018, 1:10 pm
#3181
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,608
Three long haul return trips in J on BA as a couple would cost £900 in seat reservations, plus the extended routes of a dub jfk lax could earn 25k avios valued to buy at £375.
That does not include extra avios earned on silver or any champers or food consumed when flying in Y or W otherwise.
That does not include extra avios earned on silver or any champers or food consumed when flying in Y or W otherwise.
Aug 3, 2018, 2:24 am
#3182
Join Date: May 2018
Location: London/ Oxford
Programs: BAEC Bronze; LoungeKey
Posts: 53
Hi,
Was looking at the YVR-PTY TP run, especially atttactive given 840TPs for £550! However, it doesn’t seem to price and it says on ITA that there is a 2 stopover/ transfer limit. Just to confirm, that means it’s gone, right? Unless anyone else has been having any more success?
And also, is anyone aware of any other TP runs that would net 400 or so TPs in North America that are in some way linked to Las Vegas (that will allow a 2 day stopover there).
Thank you.
Was looking at the YVR-PTY TP run, especially atttactive given 840TPs for £550! However, it doesn’t seem to price and it says on ITA that there is a 2 stopover/ transfer limit. Just to confirm, that means it’s gone, right? Unless anyone else has been having any more success?
And also, is anyone aware of any other TP runs that would net 400 or so TPs in North America that are in some way linked to Las Vegas (that will allow a 2 day stopover there).
Thank you.
Aug 3, 2018, 3:18 am
#3183
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: QF, BA
Posts: 102
Hi,
Was looking at the YVR-PTY TP run, especially atttactive given 840TPs for £550! However, it doesn’t seem to price and it says on ITA that there is a 2 stopover/ transfer limit. Just to confirm, that means it’s gone, right? Unless anyone else has been having any more success?
Was looking at the YVR-PTY TP run, especially atttactive given 840TPs for £550! However, it doesn’t seem to price and it says on ITA that there is a 2 stopover/ transfer limit. Just to confirm, that means it’s gone, right? Unless anyone else has been having any more success?
Aug 4, 2018, 1:58 am
#3184
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: M&M Senator, BAEC GGL, Delta Platinum
Posts: 258
Just booked the Canary Island Run (combined with some nice scuba diving). Even though the flights MAD-Canary Islands are only 20TP, the deal is still quite good if you dont fly from the UK:
HAM-LHR-MAD-TFN // 200TP Round Trip. Priced at 523 Euros
HAM-LHR-MAD-TFN // 200TP Round Trip. Priced at 523 Euros
Aug 4, 2018, 2:21 am
#3185
Fontaine d'honneur du Flyertalk
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Morbihan, France
Programs: Reine des Muccis de Pucci; Foreign Elitist (according to others)
Posts: 19,180
At which time of year is this offered?
Aug 4, 2018, 3:38 am
#3186
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: M&M Senator, BAEC GGL, Delta Platinum
Posts: 258
I booked for last week of October. But plenty of availability in the winter. Possible from most Destinations in Germany and Scandinavia. Using HEL adds 200 Euros...
Also possible to ACE, but Segment of MAD-ACE-MAD often limited availaibilty in I class.
Also possible to ACE, but Segment of MAD-ACE-MAD often limited availaibilty in I class.
Aug 4, 2018, 3:40 am
#3187
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: M&M Senator, BAEC GGL, Delta Platinum
Posts: 258
Playing around with Matrix, I also found this nice one:
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)€620.09Total cost for 1 passenger€620.09
Thats 320 TP.... Last Segment 2 segements in MH350 and nice JAL Business Class. For one way pretty cheap.
Kathmandu (KTM) to Taipei (TSA) — Mon, Dec 24
Kathmandu (KTM) to Kuala Lumpur (KUL) — Mon, Dec 24Malaysia Airlines 115Dep: 11:30 pmArr: 6:30 am4h 45mBoeing 737Business
Kuala Lumpur (KUL) to Tokyo (NRT) — Tue, Dec 25Malaysia Airlines 70Dep: 9:50 amArr: 5:30 pm6h 40mAirbus A350
Tokyo (HND) to Taipei (TSA) — Wed, Dec 26JAL 97Dep: 8:35 amArr: 11:40 am4h 5mBoeing 787Business
Mileage
- 6,694 total miles
Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees)€620.09Total cost for 1 passenger€620.09
Thats 320 TP.... Last Segment 2 segements in MH350 and nice JAL Business Class. For one way pretty cheap.
Last edited by chrini1; Aug 4, 2018 at 3:53 am
Aug 4, 2018, 3:54 am
#3188
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Bali
Programs: BAEC Gold / TK e+
Posts: 502
if anyone is SE Asia is looking for TP runs the CGK-CMB-DXB route on UL is still throwing up fares of around 700 GBP return in J
Thats a 560 TP's at a ridiculous 1.25/TP.
If you want to fly onto LHR, theres a BA flight 3hrs later with some very good upgrade offers from WT to WT+
Ive got 2 runs booked like this coming in at around 1200 GBP for the round trip each time
1480 TPs for around 1.71/TP.
Pretty much Gold sorted!
Thats a 560 TP's at a ridiculous 1.25/TP.
If you want to fly onto LHR, theres a BA flight 3hrs later with some very good upgrade offers from WT to WT+
Ive got 2 runs booked like this coming in at around 1200 GBP for the round trip each time
1480 TPs for around 1.71/TP.
Pretty much Gold sorted!
Aug 4, 2018, 5:08 pm
#3189
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Edi
Posts: 2,203
I know this on the edge of TP runs and the fare has been talked about before but I just booked:
YYC-LHR-HEL-BKK-HEL-LHR-YYC - £2020 - 720TP - 40K avios - £2.80 per TP.
YYC-LHR-HEL-BKK-HEL-LHR-YYC - £2020 - 720TP - 40K avios - £2.80 per TP.
Aug 5, 2018, 3:02 am
#3190
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Executive Club, Aeroplan
Posts: 196
Wanted to share some thoughts & feedback on my recent OTP-PHX run:
- I had to get to LA anyway, so it was a great opportunity to get to Gold, so can't complain at all at the £-TP ratio
- I did OTP-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHX and the same for the return
- Both the Vienna Hotel and RIN are good hotels at OTP; RIN probably has the better facilities (and offers free entry to the water park at the moment!), while the Vienna has the better breakfast. RIN wouldn't let me take a cup of coffee out of the breakfast which I thought was a bit tight, but they did give me a 3pm check out for free, so not bad. Taxi's at OTP are cheap as chips, though its a bit confusing how to get them at first! (get a ticket from the taxi machines in the terminal)
- The Econolodge at PHX is actually a pretty decent hotel for £38 a night. Free shuttle each way, breakfast if you need it, and big rooms. Only downside is the shuttle from the hotel to the airport is on the hour, every hour, so had to get the 4am one for the 6am PHX-LAX departure
- The 744's LHR-JFK are starting to look a bit worn out. I selected good seats, 62A & K, so spacious, but the aircraft are noticeably old. Cabins are patched up and not up to scratch. On the overnight JFK-LHR, it was stupidly hot in the cabin, and no air jets to use meant it stayed that way. The crew, who were fantastic, were even fanning themselves, so it was not just me. White company bedding is nice.
- AA's A321 Transcon, on the other hand, are lovely. I've flown now in F, J & Y (MCE) on the route and all are very good. I got upgraded from J to F from JFK-LAX which was great, especially as I have no status with AA. They actually came and did it when I was already seated in J which was a first for me.
Lounges:
LHR T5 - The usual. Nice, but busy. Nothing out of the ordinary. Why oh why do they make up bacon rolls, and not just offer bacon?!
JFK - AA T7. Flagship lounge is really nice. Watched some World Cup matches while there! Good quality food & beverage, lovely shower suites. Generally very nice. If you can, go here over the BA lounge.
JFK - BA T8. Not great, at all. Very busy, poor food selection. I tried the Club World pre flight dining. Don't bother. The food onboard is vastly superior. Frankly, the sandwiches in the lounge were more appealing as I was leaving than what I had in the pre flight dining. I'm tempted to complain it was that poor.
LAX - Flagship. Again, really nice lounge. Great food selection, full bar and good champagne. Omelette station in the morning, and fried rice station in the evening. The fried chicken is rather tasty!
PHX - Avoid the smaller lounge, A19-21 I think, as its tiny and gets rather warm; the other ones are pretty decent
All in all, a mostly enjoyable experience, and got me Gold so very happy. One thing I've noticed is my jet-lag is worse with this amount of flying, compared to just doing the A380 LHR-LAX and back, so its not something I'd do more than once a year.
More than happy to answer any questions on this routing if anyone needs any help or has queries.
- I had to get to LA anyway, so it was a great opportunity to get to Gold, so can't complain at all at the £-TP ratio
- I did OTP-LHR-JFK-LAX-PHX and the same for the return
- Both the Vienna Hotel and RIN are good hotels at OTP; RIN probably has the better facilities (and offers free entry to the water park at the moment!), while the Vienna has the better breakfast. RIN wouldn't let me take a cup of coffee out of the breakfast which I thought was a bit tight, but they did give me a 3pm check out for free, so not bad. Taxi's at OTP are cheap as chips, though its a bit confusing how to get them at first! (get a ticket from the taxi machines in the terminal)
- The Econolodge at PHX is actually a pretty decent hotel for £38 a night. Free shuttle each way, breakfast if you need it, and big rooms. Only downside is the shuttle from the hotel to the airport is on the hour, every hour, so had to get the 4am one for the 6am PHX-LAX departure
- The 744's LHR-JFK are starting to look a bit worn out. I selected good seats, 62A & K, so spacious, but the aircraft are noticeably old. Cabins are patched up and not up to scratch. On the overnight JFK-LHR, it was stupidly hot in the cabin, and no air jets to use meant it stayed that way. The crew, who were fantastic, were even fanning themselves, so it was not just me. White company bedding is nice.
- AA's A321 Transcon, on the other hand, are lovely. I've flown now in F, J & Y (MCE) on the route and all are very good. I got upgraded from J to F from JFK-LAX which was great, especially as I have no status with AA. They actually came and did it when I was already seated in J which was a first for me.
Lounges:
LHR T5 - The usual. Nice, but busy. Nothing out of the ordinary. Why oh why do they make up bacon rolls, and not just offer bacon?!
JFK - AA T7. Flagship lounge is really nice. Watched some World Cup matches while there! Good quality food & beverage, lovely shower suites. Generally very nice. If you can, go here over the BA lounge.
JFK - BA T8. Not great, at all. Very busy, poor food selection. I tried the Club World pre flight dining. Don't bother. The food onboard is vastly superior. Frankly, the sandwiches in the lounge were more appealing as I was leaving than what I had in the pre flight dining. I'm tempted to complain it was that poor.
LAX - Flagship. Again, really nice lounge. Great food selection, full bar and good champagne. Omelette station in the morning, and fried rice station in the evening. The fried chicken is rather tasty!
PHX - Avoid the smaller lounge, A19-21 I think, as its tiny and gets rather warm; the other ones are pretty decent
All in all, a mostly enjoyable experience, and got me Gold so very happy. One thing I've noticed is my jet-lag is worse with this amount of flying, compared to just doing the A380 LHR-LAX and back, so its not something I'd do more than once a year.
More than happy to answer any questions on this routing if anyone needs any help or has queries.
Aug 5, 2018, 3:43 am
#3191
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Oxford (&Western Isles )
Programs: BA GGL, CCR; RyanAir MillionMiler :( ;
Posts: 756
Excellent report and information for some of us travelling there later this year (esp the taxi ticket! 
) - Thanks!
Really surprised by the J-F upgrade on the 321 transcon as there are usually really long waitlists of EXP-AA people for those flights - so well done!
) - Thanks!Really surprised by the J-F upgrade on the 321 transcon as there are usually really long waitlists of EXP-AA people for those flights - so well done!
Aug 5, 2018, 4:18 am
#3192
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
AA does not offer upgrades on the Transcons J-F in the way that it does on other Domestic services. The upgrades on Transons are Y-J only, by virtue of status. And upgrade from J-F is due to needing the seat in J, possibly due to an oversold Y or J cabin.
Aug 5, 2018, 4:41 am
#3193
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wolverhampton
Programs: BA Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriot Gold, Radisson Gold, Amex Platinum
Posts: 1,608
- The 744's LHR-JFK are starting to look a bit worn out. I selected good seats, 62A & K, so spacious, but the aircraft are noticeably old. Cabins are patched up and not up to scratch. On the overnight JFK-LHR, it was stupidly hot in the cabin, and no air jets to use meant it stayed that way. The crew, who were fantastic, were even fanning themselves, so it was not just me. White company bedding is nice.
People speak as to that being the best seat on the plane. I think those people might well be lizards, unless only some of them were boiling hot. This was April, BTW, so not as if it was hot in general around that time...
Aug 5, 2018, 4:57 am
#3194
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: London
Programs: BA Executive Club, Aeroplan
Posts: 196
To me, the heat is why I'd never fly in such a plane again. I did back from the Denver in 62A. Asked over and over if they could turn the heat down, they eventually admitted they could not, and I ended up getting a spare seat downstairs because it wasn't 30 degrees.
People speak as to that being the best seat on the plane. I think those people might well be lizards, unless only some of them were boiling hot. This was April, BTW, so not as if it was hot in general around that time...
People speak as to that being the best seat on the plane. I think those people might well be lizards, unless only some of them were boiling hot. This was April, BTW, so not as if it was hot in general around that time...
Aug 5, 2018, 5:12 am
#3195
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2008
Programs: AA EXP/LTP, BA GGL/CCR/GfL, HH D/LTD, SPG/MR Plat/LTP
Posts: 10,076
Although not the case here, there is also the possibility to upgrade J->F using SWUs