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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 9:30 am
  #2416  
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Anaheim, CA, USA
Programs: BA Silver
Posts: 10
May I please have flight load information for the two following flights, both departing on Sept 22 (tomorrow):

BA 0951, departing MUC for LHR at 12:45 / arriving 13:50
Ba 0269, departing LHR for LAX at 4:05 / arriving 19:15

Thanks in advance

Betty
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 10:21 am
  #2417  
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 267
Originally Posted by *Betty_M_Johnson*
May I please have flight load information for the two following flights, both departing on Sept 22 (tomorrow):

BA 0951, departing MUC for LHR at 12:45 / arriving 13:50
Ba 0269, departing LHR for LAX at 4:05 / arriving 19:15

Thanks in advance

Betty
BA 951
MUC 22/09/18 12:45
LHR 22/09/18 13:50
319
Daily
78% / 15m
J3 C3 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B7 H4 K1 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G4

BA 269
LHR 22/09/18 16:05
LAX 22/09/18 19:15
388
Daily
19% / 37m
F3 A2 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

(UK POS)
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Old Sep 21, 2018, 10:24 am
  #2418  
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 267
Originally Posted by jfallesen
BA 951
MUC 22/09/18 12:45
LHR 22/09/18 13:50
319
Daily
78% / 15m
J3 C3 D1 R0 I0 Y9 B7 H4 K1 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G4

BA 269
LHR 22/09/18 16:05
LAX 22/09/18 19:15
388
Daily
19% / 37m
F3 A2 J9 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L6 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9

(UK POS)
Decided to check German POS. The first one came out the same but the 269 came out slightly different:

BA 269
LHR 22/09/18 16:05
LAX 22/09/18 19:15
388
Daily
19% / 37m
F3 A2 J9 C6 D1 R1 I1 W5 E3 T3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

Interesting…
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 12:22 pm
  #2419  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Munich, Algarve, Sussex or S.F Bay Area
Programs: Mucci, BA Gold, A3*Gold, AA Plat, HH Gold, IHG Plat Amb, Marriott Plat
Posts: 4,164
Travelling on BA155 on Monday to CAI and when checking in today for my feeder flight I am being offered FLUB class seats and the First section seems to have been opened up. This was not the case when I displayed seat availability yesterday. Can I safely assume that if I select one of these seats, I won’t be shifted back to far worse than I am already holding in CW?

I recall reading about these seat shifts but cannot recall if that was at check-in.
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Old Sep 22, 2018, 1:53 pm
  #2420  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 732
Originally Posted by Tafflyer
Travelling on BA155 on Monday to CAI and when checking in today for my feeder flight I am being offered FLUB class seats and the First section seems to have been opened up. This was not the case when I displayed seat availability yesterday. Can I safely assume that if I select one of these seats, I won’t be shifted back to far worse than I am already holding in CW?

I recall reading about these seat shifts but cannot recall if that was at check-in.
Nothing is ever guaranteed with FLUB. However in the 3 times I've been offered it on CAI flights, it has stuck every time.

Availability is currently J8 C3 D3 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

I'm never sure if the J8 includes the 8 now available FLUB seats or not.

FWIW, I would risk it.
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 6:17 am
  #2421  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: All over
Programs: AA-LTP, HH-DIA, Marriott-LT+AMB, Hyatt-Globalist, Hertz-PC, UA-GS
Posts: 6,828
Check please

Hi can anyone check the below?

BA 2279 LGW-OAK 24th of Sept?
BA2278 Oak-Lgw 04th of Oct?

Thanks

Last edited by chanp; Sep 23, 2018 at 6:17 am Reason: wrong fit number
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 2:52 pm
  #2422  
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 732
Originally Posted by chanp
Hi can anyone check the below?

BA 2279 LGW-OAK 24th of Sept?
BA2278 Oak-Lgw 04th of Oct?

Thanks
J8 C8 D8 R5 I0 W3 E3 T1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
and
J9 C9 D9 R6 I0 W7 E7 T4 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 5:15 pm
  #2423  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CA USA
Programs: Hilton Diamond, AA Executive Platinum
Posts: 187
Could someone please check loads on these flights:

BA278 SJC-LHR 9th October
BA278 SJC-LHR 4th December

BA279 LHR-SJC 14th October
BA279 LHR-SJC 11th December
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 10:42 pm
  #2424  
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
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Originally Posted by hockeydiva
Could someone please check loads on these flights:

BA278 SJC-LHR 9th October
BA278 SJC-LHR 4th December

BA279 LHR-SJC 14th October
BA279 LHR-SJC 11th December
BA 279 0 LHR
09/10/18 2:40 PM SJC
09/10/18 5:40 PM 789
Daily
60% / 32m F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W6 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O6 G3

BA 278 0 SJC
14/10/18 8:05 PM LHR
15/10/18 2:25 PM 789
Daily
92% / 13m F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I4 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA 279 0 LHR
04/12/18 12:50 PM SJC
04/12/18 3:55 PM 789
Daily
60% / 32m F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA 278 0 SJC
11/12/18 6:50 PM LHR
12/12/18 1:05 PM 789
Daily
92% / 13m F5 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 2:35 am
  #2425  
 
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Could someone please check this:

MEXICO CITY - HEATHROW
Wedbesday 26/09/2018 at 23:00
BRITISH AIRWAYS BA242

thank you
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 3:26 am
  #2426  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 4
Can somebody please check

LGW - MRU 27SEP BA2063.
MRU - LGW 7OCT BA2062
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 10:32 am
  #2427  
 
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Originally Posted by Frequent flyer 101
Nothing is ever guaranteed with FLUB. However in the 3 times I've been offered it on CAI flights, it has stuck every time.

Availability is currently J8 C3 D3 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

I'm never sure if the J8 includes the 8 now available FLUB seats or not.

FWIW, I would risk it.
Well I risked it and failed. Even while still in the F lounge seats were still assigned in FLUB only to get changed at the gate to crappy seats including a coffin. At last time of looking there were only 6 seats either free or blocked, so I was sure they’d need the cabin. Profuse apologies that they need an extra crew member to serve that cabin etc. but it was not sincere. I really don’t see why serving the same number of passengers spread out over more seats really is so difficult. That is the last time I play this game. I should have kept the nice seats I had.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 12:15 pm
  #2428  
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: CA USA
Programs: Hilton Diamond, AA Executive Platinum
Posts: 187
Originally Posted by Strattonflyer
BA 279 0 LHR
09/10/18 2:40 PM SJC
09/10/18 5:40 PM 789
Daily
60% / 32m F6 A5 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W6 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O6 G3

BA 278 0 SJC
14/10/18 8:05 PM LHR
15/10/18 2:25 PM 789
Daily
92% / 13m F2 A1 J9 C9 D9 R9 I4 W7 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA 279 0 LHR
04/12/18 12:50 PM SJC
04/12/18 3:55 PM 789
Daily
60% / 32m F4 A3 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9

BA 278 0 SJC
11/12/18 6:50 PM LHR
12/12/18 1:05 PM 789
Daily
92% / 13m F5 A4 J9 C9 D9 R9 I9 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
Thank you for this information, but it's not the correct flights

On October 9th - SJC to LHR:
BA278 SJC-LHR 9th October

On October 14th - LHR to SJC
BA279 LHR-SJC 14th October

On December 4th - SJC to LHR
BA278 SJC-LHR 4th December

On December 11th - LHR to SJC
BA279 LHR-SJC 11th December
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 2:20 am
  #2429  
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: Aegean Airlines Silver, British Airways Gold, Virgin Atlantic Silver
Posts: 1,740
Could someone please check this:

MEXICO CITY - HEATHROW
Wedbesday 26/09/2018 at 23:00
BRITISH AIRWAYS BA242
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Old Sep 26, 2018, 9:44 am
  #2430  
 
Join Date: Jul 2018
Programs: BA Blue
Posts: 20
Originally Posted by gallagher
could someone please check this:

Mexico city - heathrow
wedbesday 26/09/2018 at 23:00
british airways ba242
f1 a0 j9 c0 d0 r0 i0 w9 e0 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l7 v3 s0 n0 q0 o0 g9
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