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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:38 pm
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Join Date: Nov 2017
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Thank you very much! Looking quite full on the way back!
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 12:58 pm
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Hi!

Could someone please check the loads on these flights for me me?

QF001 SIN-LHR 10/September
MH003 LHR-KUL 13/September
MH704 KUL-MNL 14/September
MH705 MNL-KUL 24/September
MH002 KUL-LHR 24/September

Thank you!
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Old Sep 3, 2018, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque
Well if there is, hopefully the worst case will be them putting you on one of the many JFK services
Rather not spend a couple of hours tranfer to new jersey. But there is also the next day.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 12:53 am
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Originally Posted by J343
Hi!

Could someone please check the loads on these flights for me me?

QF001 SIN-LHR 10/September
MH003 LHR-KUL 13/September
MH704 KUL-MNL 14/September
MH705 MNL-KUL 24/September
MH002 KUL-LHR 24/September

Thank you!
Here you go, all UK POS:
QF 1
SIN 10/09/18 23:55 - LHR 11/09/18 6:55
F3 A3 J9 C9 D0 I0 W4 R1 T0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L1

MH 3
LHR 13/09/18 10:45 - KUL14/09/18 7:00
F3 A2 P0 J9 C9 D9 Z4 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 E0 X0 G0

MH 704
KUL 14/09/18 10:15 - MNL 14/09/18 14:05
J7 C5 D2 Z2 I2 U1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9
V9 S9 N9 Q8 O1 E1 X1 G1

MH 705
MNL 24/09/18 15:05 - KUL 24/09/18 18:50
J8 C6 D5 Z5 I3 U1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9
V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 E2 X1 G0

MH 2
KUL 24/09/18 23:15 - LHR 25/09/18 5:55
F3 A0 P0 J9 C9 D5 Z0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 E2 X1 G1
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by Lucanesque
Here you go, all UK POS:
QF 1
SIN 10/09/18 23:55 - LHR 11/09/18 6:55
F3 A3 J9 C9 D0 I0 W4 R1 T0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L1

MH 3
LHR 13/09/18 10:45 - KUL14/09/18 7:00
F3 A2 P0 J9 C9 D9 Z4 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 E0 X0 G0

MH 704
KUL 14/09/18 10:15 - MNL 14/09/18 14:05
J7 C5 D2 Z2 I2 U1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9
V9 S9 N9 Q8 O1 E1 X1 G1

MH 705
MNL 24/09/18 15:05 - KUL 24/09/18 18:50
J8 C6 D5 Z5 I3 U1 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9
V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 E2 X1 G0

MH 2
KUL 24/09/18 23:15 - LHR 25/09/18 5:55
F3 A0 P0 J9 C9 D5 Z0 I0 U0 Y9 B9 H9
K9 M9 L9 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 E2 X1 G1

Oh wow! Thank you so much! Fairly full flight on QF001, MH003 and MH002 and not so busy on MH704 and MH705! Thank you again!
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 8:32 am
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: SoCal, USA
Programs: British Airways Silver
Posts: 25
Hello, would like to get flight load information on the following flight, thanks in advance!

BA 0268
September 7, 2018
21:35 departure
LAX - LHR
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 8:35 am
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Originally Posted by Betty Johnson
Hello, would like to get flight load information on the following flight, thanks in advance!

BA 0268
September 7, 2018
21:35 departure
LAX - LHR
Currently showing F1 A0 J9 C3 D1 R0 I0 W8 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H8 K5 M2 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G9
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 9:07 am
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Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: SoCal, USA
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Posts: 25
Thank you!
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 10:49 am
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Would be grateful for a check on

LHR-HKG 7th Sept 2018
BA31 & BA27

Thanks.
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 2:31 pm
  #2350  
 
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Originally Posted by Schwann
Quite full in Y, not too busy in WTP, busier in CW and dead in First.
Good observations.

Have been op-upped prior to check-in from WTP to CW. BA Silver, and I continue to maintain a good (75%+) success rate on this route. I usually see it post-check-in at T-3hrs or so but this is a first at T-27hrs. Would be very interesting to see what people think when they read the loads, I for one struggle to make sense of it when I am upgraded!

Current loads are:BA 105LHR 10:25p → DXB 8:25a
F3 A2 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E1 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
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Old Sep 4, 2018, 2:36 pm
  #2351  
 
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Originally Posted by Foofighter69


Good observations.

Have been op-upped prior to check-in from WTP to CW. BA Silver, and I continue to maintain a good (75%+) success rate on this route. I usually see it post-check-in at T-3hrs or so but this is a first at T-27hrs. Would be very interesting to see what people think when they read the loads, I for one struggle to make sense of it when I am upgraded!

Current loads are:BA 105LHR 10:25p → DXB 8:25a
F3 A2 J2 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E1 T0 Y6 B3 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Thw way I read this along with the seat maps at T-24h (empty and not blocked/occupied seats are 12xF, 14xJ, 18xWTP) is oversold by 3 in WT but continue selling semi-flex seats. F, CW and WTP arent’t full and but are getting (over in some cases) subscribed by op ups from classes below.

So, keep selling the cheapest seats despite being oversold down the back, but at a semi-flex as they need to protect value propositions up front.

Thoughts?
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 10:06 am
  #2352  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: MME (midway between NCL and LBA)
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Posts: 744
Please could someone check BA1321 NCL-LHR on 17 September?

Looks like it has totally sold out already - if so, any idea if BA would likely change the scheduled A319 to a larger plane at this late stage?
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 10:09 am
  #2353  
 
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BA 1321 NCL
09/17/18 6:05 AM LHR
09/17/18 7:25 AM 319
Daily
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

Yikes that does look full!
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Old Sep 5, 2018, 11:19 am
  #2354  
 
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Originally Posted by GGla
Would be grateful for a check on

LHR-HKG 7th Sept 2018
BA31 & BA27

Thanks.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 07/09/18 0:00 for HKG
Flying BA
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares
Point of Sale: UK


Frequency
Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Reliability Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 31 0 LHR HKG 388 Daily F0 A0 J9 C3 D0 R0 I0 W5 E2 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L8 V5 S2 N1 Q1 O1 G9
07/09/18 18:40 08/09/18 13:40 68% / 31m

0 Connections
BA 27 0 LHR HKG 777 Daily F5 A4 J6 C0 D0 R0 I0 W5 E3 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q0 O0 G8
07/09/18 21:45 08/09/18 16:40 57% / 25m
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Old Sep 6, 2018, 2:25 am
  #2355  
 
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Originally Posted by Flexible preferences
BA 1321 NCL
09/17/18 6:05 AM LHR
09/17/18 7:25 AM 319
Daily
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0
N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0

Yikes that does look full!
Thanks, 3 more seats appeared at some point yesterday evening so I am now sorted.
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