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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#1531
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
#1532
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
Thanks, but have you got correct return date?
BA5 LHR-NRT 17/4/18
BA6 NRT-LHR 23/4/18
BA5 LHR-NRT 17/4/18
BA6 NRT-LHR 23/4/18
#1533
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
#1534
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: BA Silver, Honors Gold
Posts: 169
Thank you!
I'm no expert in understanding these stats, but is BA6 pretty much full?
(and if so, is this common?)
I'm no expert in understanding these stats, but is BA6 pretty much full?
(and if so, is this common?)
#1535
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 532
As for common. Don't know about longer term but there's almost no availability that whole week (Uk point of sale).
23rd
F1 A0 J7 C3 D2 R1 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
24th
F2 A1 J7 C3 D4 R3 I0 W9 E6 T1 Y8 B7 H6 K3 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
25th
F2 A1 J7 C3 D3 R3 I0 W4 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
26th
F1 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
27th
F1 A0 J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
28th
F1 A0 J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W0 E0 T0 Y5 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
29th
F4 A3 J4 C2 D0 R0 I0 W2 E0 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K5 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
#1536
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 532
Just to add: If you use Japan as a point of sale there are a few Econ seats available there and a bit more biz as well.
BA 6
NRT
04/23/18 12:55 PM
LHR
04/23/18 5:20 PM
789
Daily
84% / 28mF1 A0 J7 C3 D0 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y6 B4 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
#1537
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,756
I'm a little confused. When people refer to the UK Point of Sale in their replies to requests, does this mean that the numbers aren't necessarily accurate? I would have thought that the seats are either sold or unsold, regardless.
#1538
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, ITA Club Executive, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,599
Moreover, the airline may be willing to make seats in certain fare classes more or less available depending on the market (POS).
#1539
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: BAEC GfL
Posts: 336
Can someone please check the loads for the following two flights:
19 April 2018: BA 189 LHR - EWR
22 April 2018: BA 112 JFK - LHR
Many thanks in advance!
19 April 2018: BA 189 LHR - EWR
22 April 2018: BA 112 JFK - LHR
Many thanks in advance!
#1540
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC Silver, ITA Club Executive, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 3,599
19 April 2018: BA 189 LHR - EWR
F5 A4 J9 C2 D2 R0 I0 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G9
22 April 2018: BA 112 JFK - LHR
F1 A0 J9 C2 D0 R0 I0 W4 E1 T0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G9
#1542
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 245
Please could someone check loads for BA512 LHR - MAD on 16 APR. Many thanks in advance.
#1543
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: London / Brighton
Programs: BAEC Gold / M-Life Gold / HH Diamond
Posts: 1,635
#1544
Join Date: Apr 2018
Programs: BA executive
Posts: 1
Seat map BA2159/2158
Hi Could anyone help with the CW seat map for
BA2159 Gatwick /UVF15/07/18
BA 2159 Gatwick/UVF 19/07/18
BA 2158 UVF /Gatwick 02/08/18
Many Thanks
BA2159 Gatwick /UVF15/07/18
BA 2159 Gatwick/UVF 19/07/18
BA 2158 UVF /Gatwick 02/08/18
Many Thanks
Last edited by CM1408; Apr 13, 2018 at 5:33 am