Last edit by: Tobias-UK
This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.
Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.
As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.
Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)
What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...
This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.
There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.
2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.
What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.
The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.
Differences for non-BA airlines
- Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
- Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
Help to check BA seat availability and BA flight loads
#781
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA Gold, RCI Diamond
Posts: 75
Confused
Hi folks, I’m a bit confused and hoping someone can help me understand.....
My flight from a UK PoS is shining no availability whatsoever. But, by changing to USA PoS, EF shows the following-
KIN 7:30p → LGW 9:20a
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E2 T2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Why is it different?
My flight from a UK PoS is shining no availability whatsoever. But, by changing to USA PoS, EF shows the following-
KIN 7:30p → LGW 9:20a
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E2 T2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Why is it different?
#782
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: HKG; LHR
Programs: BA GOLD
Posts: 74
Can anyone help check BA215 LHR--BOS 01DEC, BA238 BOS--LHR 05DEC?
#783
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: West Coast USA
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 559
Can anyone help with both loads and seat map (blocked seats) in CW on BA280 LAX-LHR on 01/10/18.
#784
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: London, UK
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR; TK Elite; ITA Executive; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 1,551
Could someone please check this for me?
GRU - LHR 7 January - BA 246
Thanks in advance.
GRU - LHR 7 January - BA 246
Thanks in advance.
#785
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH DIAMOND, AVIS Presidents Club, Karahi Express
Posts: 1,229
#786
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH DIAMOND, AVIS Presidents Club, Karahi Express
Posts: 1,229
#787
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH DIAMOND, AVIS Presidents Club, Karahi Express
Posts: 1,229
#788
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: UK
Programs: BAEC GGL, HH DIAMOND, AVIS Presidents Club, Karahi Express
Posts: 1,229
Hi folks, I’m a bit confused and hoping someone can help me understand.....
My flight from a UK PoS is shining no availability whatsoever. But, by changing to USA PoS, EF shows the following-
KIN 7:30p → LGW 9:20a
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E2 T2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Why is it different?
My flight from a UK PoS is shining no availability whatsoever. But, by changing to USA PoS, EF shows the following-
KIN 7:30p → LGW 9:20a
J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 W3 E2 T2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Why is it different?
#790
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,343
#791
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BA Gold, RCI Diamond
Posts: 75
What do you reckon the chances of an OpUp feom WTP to CW would be...?!
#792
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: BHX
Programs: BA GGL CCR GfL, SQ Gold, Hyatt Glob, HH Diamond, Marriott Plat, Cafe Nero Loyalty Card (7 Stamps)
Posts: 7,343
Thanks Wozza. I checked again this morning and saw that. However, why would the PoS be showing differently? Escecially as UK was showing full, but US having different availability in different buckets?
What do you reckon the chances of an OpUp feom WTP to CW would be...?!
What do you reckon the chances of an OpUp feom WTP to CW would be...?!
Chances are, there will be some Opups on that flight - but also there's a chance of IDB as well. We can only see so much on EF.
Different availability from different POS are not unusual. I class showing 0 ex-LHR on a LHR-SIN, for example, is a common one on a UK POS but a Norwegian POS might show I2 as BA are so keen on getting pax from Norway into premium seats. I've seen this a few times.
#793
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,009
Hi
Could someone please check the loads for BA56 jnb-lhr on 3 dec 2017
Many thanks
Gav_T
Could someone please check the loads for BA56 jnb-lhr on 3 dec 2017
Many thanks
Gav_T
#794
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Singapore
Programs: BAEC GOLD
Posts: 9
BA 56, JNB-LHR, 03/12/17 - US POS
F4 A2 J6 C2 D1 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y7 B2H2 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Pretty packed and no upgrade availability in any class. Might be some op-ups from J-F as W looks oversold. Just my opinion though.
#795
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 1,009
Hello all - looooong time lurker here, so after nearly 10 years I thought should finally chip in. And since I just signed up to ExpertFlyer I can at least attempt to make my first post a useful one:
BA 56, JNB-LHR, 03/12/17 - US POS
F4 A2 J6 C2 D1 R0 I0 W1 E0 T0 Y7 B2H2 K2 M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
Pretty packed and no upgrade availability in any class. Might be some op-ups from J-F as W looks oversold. Just my opinion though.
Thanks - yup seems pretty busy. Already in F so hoping NO ONEis bumpedup! Lol