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Old Jul 9, 2017, 11:09 am
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This is community help desk which allows members to assist each other in finding out how many seats are available on any given flight.

If you wish to request availability for a specific flight, please state the date and origin/departure airport codes, not just the flight number.

Please also restrict requests to BA/oneworld flights - flights for other airlines may be removed to avoid cluttering the thread and taking it away from BAEC.


As of 15 Oct 2014 flightstats.com no longer displays flight availability.

Fare class availability can be queried in various ways*:
* Please update wiki if you know of any others.
** Origin of data concealed and probably unauthorised (so buyer beware)


What do the codes mean?
Suppose we have a result as F1 A0 J9 C7 D0 RC IC W9 E9 T4 Y9 BC HC ...

This means:
There is 1 seat in the F bucket for sale
There are 0 seats in the A and D bucket for sale, but you can join the waitlist in case seats get released later.
There are at least 9 seats in the J, W, E and Y buckets.
The R, I, B and H buckets are closed to waitlisting.

There are two important things to note about how to interpret these numbers that many people don't understand as it is very counter intuitive:
1) There is NO direct relation to the actual number of seats available on the specific flight. They only mean that the airline is willing to sell this many seats on that specific flight. The airline may intend to oversell seats or withhold seats from sale for many reasons.

2) In the example above, the results show W9 E9 T4 (which are all WT+ buckets). This does not mean that there are 9+9+4=22 seats for sale. Interpret these numbers as "there are at least 9 seats for sale in WT+". There could really be anywhere between 9 and 22 seats for sale - we just can't tell from the numbers the system gives us. Therefore, the conservative approach of assuming that there are at least 9 seats for sale is usually the best one.


What does the "C" mean?
Closed to waitlisting.
In the example above we have RC, IC, BC and HC. This is different to A0 and D0: The A and D buckets are "full" but you can apply to join their waitlists (if your fare permits waitlisting). With R, I, B and H you cannot even request a seat.

The carrier will determine how to confirm your seat if it wishes. Sometimes this may happen immediately, other times only a few minutes before the flight's departure. The order of the waitlist is determined by the carrier privately, but your Executive Club status will push you towards the front of the queue. Many cheap fares do not allow waitlisting.


Differences for non-BA airlines
  • Some carriers (those using Sabre such as AA) only show a maximum of 7 available seats (not 9). Others only show a maximum of 5.
  • Some carriers use "L" instead of "0" (e.g., CL DL YL) to indicate you may waitlist for the seat. This tends to happen when the entire flight is on a list basis.
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Gastrocnemius
I've not posted in this thread before, but my positioning flight to OTP seems to have shot up in price....


Please could somebody check the following for me:

BA886 LHR-OTP 2nd Aug 18

Thanks
Hello, for the flight in question and with a UK POS it's showing as follows: J9 C7 D4 R9 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 2:55 pm
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Thank you very much Wozza2404
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Old Apr 6, 2018, 3:58 pm
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Thank you!
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 6:15 am
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Originally Posted by Geordie405
Hello, for the flight in question and with a UK POS it's showing as follows: J9 C7 D4 R9 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0
Thank you.

I'm a novice at this sort of thing- if it is I0, is it likely to stay that way- i.e. shall I just buy the ticket now at the more expensive R fare?

thank you!
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 6:30 am
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BA2205

LGW- PUJ 12pm 14/6/18

BA2204 PUJ-LGW 24/6/18

hi wondering if anyone can check the CW load on this flight - I’m not fully understanding all the codes used to describe the load.

many thanks
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by Tilly1622
LGW- PUJ 12pm 14/6/18

BA2204 PUJ-LGW 24/6/18

hi wondering if anyone can check the CW load on this flight - I’m not fully understanding all the codes used to describe the load.

many thanks
BA 22050LGW
14/06/18 12:00 PMPUJ
14/06/18 4:05 PM777
Su,T,Th
77% / 33mJ9 C9 D9 R6 I0 W4 E1 T1 Y9 B6 H5 K3
M1 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0

BA 22040PUJ
24/06/18 6:50 PMLGW
25/06/18 8:10 AM777
Su,T
84% / 50mJ9 C9 D9 R9 I3 W9 E9 T9 Y9 B9 H9 K9
M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O0 G0

so basically it's not overly full in CW though it's still 2 months away. they are willing to sell I class on the return which is a sign that the cabin isn't very full. Economy on the outbound is "fuller" as is WTP. much lighter loads on the way back in Y and WTP.
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Old Apr 7, 2018, 12:32 pm
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Brilliant thank you so much - we were debating whether to select seats but will hold off.
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Old Apr 8, 2018, 4:40 am
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ba966

Ba966
Hi all
is today’s ba966 Lhr/Ham oversold? OLCI 0 seats available
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Old Apr 8, 2018, 4:43 am
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Originally Posted by TPRun
Ba966
Hi all
is today’s ba966 Lhr/Ham oversold? OLCI 0 seats available
On seat map J shows 1 vacant and 3 blocked, Y shows 2 blocked

All other seats shown as allocated so could be tight!
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Old Apr 8, 2018, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by peterinlewesuk
On seat map J shows 1 vacant and 3 blocked, Y shows 2 blocked

All other seats shown as allocated so could be tight!
yikes. Thank you for checking.
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 1:10 am
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Thank you tamalien I'm sorry for my slow reply but I've been working overnight and my only thoughts have been bed, lie flat of course and sleep.

DMF
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 2:55 am
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Can someone advise of BA173 LHR>JFK departing at 1120 on Mon 16 April, as well as BA172 JFK>LHR departing at 2105 on Thur 19 April?

TIA !
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 3:00 am
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Originally Posted by ibbitsc
can someone advise of ba173 lhr>jfk departing at 1120 on mon 16 april, as well as ba172 jfk>lhr departing at 2105 on thur 19 april?

Tia !
ba 173
lhr 16/04/18 11:20
jfk 16/04/18 14:05
744
f9 a8 j9 c2 d0 r0 i0 w7 e1 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n0 q0 o0 g9

ba 172
jfk 19/04/18 21:05
lhr 20/04/18 9:10
744
f8 a7 j9 c3 d0 r0 i0 w6 e4 t0 y9 b9 h9 k9 m9 l9 v9 s9 n9 q9 o9 g9
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 5:30 am
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Can someone check the load for BA1336 (LHR to NCL) on 11th April 2018 please?

I’m currently booked on BA1338 but I’m hoping to do same day change to BA1336 if there’s any space.
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Old Apr 9, 2018, 5:34 am
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Originally Posted by geordiejetsetter
Can someone check the load for BA1336 (LHR to NCL) on 11th April 2018 please?

I’m currently booked on BA1338 but I’m hoping to do same day change to BA1336 if there’s any space.
Can't tell you the load, but here's the availability for the flights on that day:

Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
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Flight Availability Search
Departing LHR on 04/11/18 12:00 AM for NCL
Flying BA  
Direct/Non-Stop Only
Exclude Codeshares


                                                                     Frequency
Flight        Stops  Depart             Arrive             Aircraft  Reliability     Available Classes
0 Connections
BA 1324       0      LHR                NCL                319       M,T,W,Th,F      J9 C7 D4 R0 I0 Y9 B6 H4 K2 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S9 G9 
                     04/11/18 7:00 AM   04/11/18 8:10 AM             90% / 12m

0 Connections
BA 1326       0      LHR                NCL                319       Daily           J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 
                     04/11/18 9:20 AM   04/11/18 10:35 AM            85% / 11m

0 Connections
BA 1332       0      LHR                NCL                319       Daily           J9 C6 D3 R0 I0 Y7 B2 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 
                     04/11/18 1:05 PM   04/11/18 2:20 PM             80% / 19m

0 Connections
BA 1334       0      LHR                NCL                319       Su,M,T,W,Th,F   J1 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 
                     04/11/18 2:25 PM   04/11/18 3:40 PM             73% / 16m

0 Connections
BA 1336       0      LHR                NCL                319       Daily           J3 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y2 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 
                     04/11/18 6:15 PM   04/11/18 7:30 PM             74% / 21m

0 Connections
BA 1338       0      LHR                NCL                321       Daily           J0 C0 D0 R0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 N0 O0 Q0 S0 G0 
                     04/11/18 9:05 PM   04/11/18 10:15 PM            82% / 29m
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