Jun 30, 2017, 8:53 am
Last edit by: TCX69
Links to flights being operated by the 9 Qatar Planes can be found below starting from 1st July 2017.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ada
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-add
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ade
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-laa
Seems like charter airline "Hifly Malta" is also being used
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-jai
A7–ADA
1/Jul:
BA388 LHR–BRU
BA391 BRU–LHR
2/Jul:
BA848 LHR–ZAG
BA849 ZAG–LHR
BA966 LHR–HAM
BA966 HAM–LHR
A7–ADB
1/Jul:
BA948 LHR–MUC
BA949 MUC–LHR
BA356 LHR–NCE
BA357 NCE–LHR
2/Jul:
BA776 LHR–ARN
BA777 ARN–LHR
BA440 LHR–AMS
BA441 AMS–LHR
A7–ADC
1/Jul:
BA761 LHR–OSL
BA762 OSL–LHR
BA872 LHR–KRK
BA873 KRK–LHR
2/Jul:
BA948 LHR–MUC
BA949 MUC–LHR
BA356 LHR–NCE
BA357 NCE–LHR
A7–ADD
1/Jul:
BA890 LHR–SOF
BA891 SOF–LHR
BA464 LHR–MAD
BA464 MAD–LHR
2/Jul:
BA1474 LHR–GLA
BA1479 GLA–LHR
BA872 LHR–KRK
BA873 KRK–LHR
A7–ADE
1/Jul:
Nil
2/Jul:
BA882 LHR–KBP
BA883 KBP–LHR
A7–ADF
1/Jul:
BA882 LHR–KBP
BA883 KBP–LHR
2/Jul:
BA416 LHR–LUX
BA417 LUX–LHR
BA850 LHR–WAW
BA851 WAW–LHR
A7–ADG
1/Jul:
BA848 LHR–ZAG
BA849 ZAG–LHR
2/Jul:
BA480 LHR–BCN
BA481 BCN–LHR
A7–ADI
1/Jul:
Nil
2/Jul:
BA696 LHR–VIE
BA697 VIE–LHR
BA704 LHR–VIE
BA704 VIE–LHR
A7–LAA
1/Jul:
BA710 LHR–ZRH
BA711 ZRH–LHR
BA876 LHR–TLL
BA877 TLL–LHR
2/Jul:
BA846 LHR–WAW
BA847 WAW–LHR
BA418 LHR–LUX
BA419 LUX–LHR
CS–TQZ (HiFly A343)
2/Jul:
BA1438 LHR–EDI
BA1443 EDI–LHR
BA348 LHR–NCE
BA348 NCE–LHR
9H–JAI (HiFly Malta A343)
2/Jul:
BA632 LHR–ATH
BA633 ATH–LHR
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ada
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adb
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adc
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-add
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-ade
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adf
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adg
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-adi
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/a7-laa
Seems like charter airline "Hifly Malta" is also being used
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/9h-jai
A7–ADA
1/Jul:
BA388 LHR–BRU
BA391 BRU–LHR
2/Jul:
BA848 LHR–ZAG
BA849 ZAG–LHR
BA966 LHR–HAM
BA966 HAM–LHR
A7–ADB
1/Jul:
BA948 LHR–MUC
BA949 MUC–LHR
BA356 LHR–NCE
BA357 NCE–LHR
2/Jul:
BA776 LHR–ARN
BA777 ARN–LHR
BA440 LHR–AMS
BA441 AMS–LHR
A7–ADC
1/Jul:
BA761 LHR–OSL
BA762 OSL–LHR
BA872 LHR–KRK
BA873 KRK–LHR
2/Jul:
BA948 LHR–MUC
BA949 MUC–LHR
BA356 LHR–NCE
BA357 NCE–LHR
A7–ADD
1/Jul:
BA890 LHR–SOF
BA891 SOF–LHR
BA464 LHR–MAD
BA464 MAD–LHR
2/Jul:
BA1474 LHR–GLA
BA1479 GLA–LHR
BA872 LHR–KRK
BA873 KRK–LHR
A7–ADE
1/Jul:
Nil
2/Jul:
BA882 LHR–KBP
BA883 KBP–LHR
A7–ADF
1/Jul:
BA882 LHR–KBP
BA883 KBP–LHR
2/Jul:
BA416 LHR–LUX
BA417 LUX–LHR
BA850 LHR–WAW
BA851 WAW–LHR
A7–ADG
1/Jul:
BA848 LHR–ZAG
BA849 ZAG–LHR
2/Jul:
BA480 LHR–BCN
BA481 BCN–LHR
A7–ADI
1/Jul:
Nil
2/Jul:
BA696 LHR–VIE
BA697 VIE–LHR
BA704 LHR–VIE
BA704 VIE–LHR
A7–LAA
1/Jul:
BA710 LHR–ZRH
BA711 ZRH–LHR
BA876 LHR–TLL
BA877 TLL–LHR
2/Jul:
BA846 LHR–WAW
BA847 WAW–LHR
BA418 LHR–LUX
BA419 LUX–LHR
CS–TQZ (HiFly A343)
2/Jul:
BA1438 LHR–EDI
BA1443 EDI–LHR
BA348 LHR–NCE
BA348 NCE–LHR
9H–JAI (HiFly Malta A343)
2/Jul:
BA632 LHR–ATH
BA633 ATH–LHR
Qatar Operated BA Flight Information - During MF Strike
Aug 16, 2017, 3:54 am
#91
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Reward Flight Saver Taxes on Qatar-Operated BA Strike Flights
I had the Al Maha A7-LAA today. Going LHR to ARN. While I can't compare it to the other Qatar planes on wet lease, I couldn't fault it in its own right.
Was an hour late taking off due to it arriving late from Kiev. I was sitting in 3D, the last row of business.
The seat was wide and the legroom plentiful. The food was, I think, Qatar fare. The starter was a large prawn on a bed of sliced melon. Cheese and biscuits and the chocolate dessert were served with the starter.
The main course was a choice of fish or chicken. I had fish, which was with a green pea mash and grilled vegetables. Very tasty.
The beverage choices were juice, small cans (coke etc), beer, red, white, champagne. No G&T was offered and I didn't ask so I assume that drinks was a Qatar array as well. I didn't see what was offered in economy beyond the cans.
Slightly oddly, the condiments, glasses, cutlery, serviettes and even lavatory tissues were BA branded.
The cabin crew were very efficient and keen to top up glasses. However I think they did become distracted by requests for top ups as the plentiful basket of bread rolls were only offered to the front row and never made it back any further.
All in all a very nice and interesting flight. Not bad for a reward saver redemption!
Was an hour late taking off due to it arriving late from Kiev. I was sitting in 3D, the last row of business.
The seat was wide and the legroom plentiful. The food was, I think, Qatar fare. The starter was a large prawn on a bed of sliced melon. Cheese and biscuits and the chocolate dessert were served with the starter.
The main course was a choice of fish or chicken. I had fish, which was with a green pea mash and grilled vegetables. Very tasty.
The beverage choices were juice, small cans (coke etc), beer, red, white, champagne. No G&T was offered and I didn't ask so I assume that drinks was a Qatar array as well. I didn't see what was offered in economy beyond the cans.
Slightly oddly, the condiments, glasses, cutlery, serviettes and even lavatory tissues were BA branded.
The cabin crew were very efficient and keen to top up glasses. However I think they did become distracted by requests for top ups as the plentiful basket of bread rolls were only offered to the front row and never made it back any further.
All in all a very nice and interesting flight. Not bad for a reward saver redemption!
The taxes for my flight were not the usual £17.50 RFS fees. They were more in the order of £50. As I was booking so close to the flight, I didn't have time to dispute it and brought it up with BA once I got here.
BA were adamant that the Qatar operated flights were 'as good as' BA flights and that the reason for the higher tax amount was because 'some European flights have RFS availability and others have normal Avios availability. If you book into the latter, a higher tax is charged.' Nothing to do, apparently, with it being Qatar operated.
That sounds like nonsense to me as I've never seen a second set of redemption inventory on European flights and having done a few other dummy bookings for tomorrow on routes operated by Qatar, it seems clear that the Qatar operated flights (Berlin being one, for example) are the only ones not qualifying for the RFS tax cap.
Does anyone know if this a known IT glitch or is it simply that these flights don't qualify for RFS?
Aug 16, 2017, 4:10 am
#92
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BA were adamant that the Qatar operated flights were 'as good as' BA flights and that the reason for the higher tax amount was because 'some European flights have RFS availability and others have normal Avios availability. If you book into the latter, a higher tax is charged.' Nothing to do, apparently, with it being Qatar operated.
That sounds like nonsense to me as I've never seen a second set of redemption inventory on European flights and having done a few other dummy bookings for tomorrow on routes operated by Qatar, it seems clear that the Qatar operated flights (Berlin being one, for example) are the only ones not qualifying for the RFS tax cap.
Does anyone know if this a known IT glitch or is it simply that these flights don't qualify for RFS?
That sounds like nonsense to me as I've never seen a second set of redemption inventory on European flights and having done a few other dummy bookings for tomorrow on routes operated by Qatar, it seems clear that the Qatar operated flights (Berlin being one, for example) are the only ones not qualifying for the RFS tax cap.
Does anyone know if this a known IT glitch or is it simply that these flights don't qualify for RFS?
There is an issue which we have seen before (e.g. when jet time were operating some BA services) that the RFS cap wasn't properly working and you similarly got charged full taxes/fees/charges. That was acknowledged as wrong by BA - although I don't remember whether they fixed ba.com to correctly show them with the RFS pricing.
Quite simply you are entitled to a refund of the different between the RFS fee and what you paid.
Aug 16, 2017, 6:43 am
#93
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Location: London
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It is nonesense. If you have activity on your account sufficient to see RFS pricing then that's what you will be presented with if there are reward seats on BA short haul & domestic. You should not see some BA flights with RFS prices and some without.
There is an issue which we have seen before (e.g. when jet time were operating some BA services) that the RFS cap wasn't properly working and you similarly got charged full taxes/fees/charges. That was acknowledged as wrong by BA - although I don't remember whether they fixed ba.com to correctly show them with the RFS pricing.
Quite simply you are entitled to a refund of the different between the RFS fee and what you paid.
There is an issue which we have seen before (e.g. when jet time were operating some BA services) that the RFS cap wasn't properly working and you similarly got charged full taxes/fees/charges. That was acknowledged as wrong by BA - although I don't remember whether they fixed ba.com to correctly show them with the RFS pricing.
Quite simply you are entitled to a refund of the different between the RFS fee and what you paid.
Aug 16, 2017, 7:45 am
#94
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Just to add that 3 QR birds (including the 1 Al Maha plane) are being swapped over the course of three nights in IST, where one is currently doing the nightstop run.
No clear reason why QR want these swapped, but there you go.
No clear reason why QR want these swapped, but there you go.
Aug 16, 2017, 11:59 pm
#95
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I had the Al Maha A7-LAA today. Going LHR to ARN. While I can't compare it to the other Qatar planes on wet lease, I couldn't fault it in its own right.
Was an hour late taking off due to it arriving late from Kiev. I was sitting in 3D, the last row of business.
The seat was wide and the legroom plentiful. The food was, I think, Qatar fare. The starter was a large prawn on a bed of sliced melon. Cheese and biscuits and the chocolate dessert were served with the starter.
The main course was a choice of fish or chicken. I had fish, which was with a green pea mash and grilled vegetables. Very tasty.
The beverage choices were juice, small cans (coke etc), beer, red, white, champagne. No G&T was offered and I didn't ask so I assume that drinks was a Qatar array as well. I didn't see what was offered in economy beyond the cans.
Slightly oddly, the condiments, glasses, cutlery, serviettes and even lavatory tissues were BA branded.
The cabin crew were very efficient and keen to top up glasses. However I think they did become distracted by requests for top ups as the plentiful basket of bread rolls were only offered to the front row and never made it back any further.
All in all a very nice and interesting flight. Not bad for a reward saver redemption!
Was an hour late taking off due to it arriving late from Kiev. I was sitting in 3D, the last row of business.
The seat was wide and the legroom plentiful. The food was, I think, Qatar fare. The starter was a large prawn on a bed of sliced melon. Cheese and biscuits and the chocolate dessert were served with the starter.
The main course was a choice of fish or chicken. I had fish, which was with a green pea mash and grilled vegetables. Very tasty.
The beverage choices were juice, small cans (coke etc), beer, red, white, champagne. No G&T was offered and I didn't ask so I assume that drinks was a Qatar array as well. I didn't see what was offered in economy beyond the cans.
Slightly oddly, the condiments, glasses, cutlery, serviettes and even lavatory tissues were BA branded.
The cabin crew were very efficient and keen to top up glasses. However I think they did become distracted by requests for top ups as the plentiful basket of bread rolls were only offered to the front row and never made it back any further.
All in all a very nice and interesting flight. Not bad for a reward saver redemption!
Aug 17, 2017, 12:48 am
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It is indeed BA catering, though, I'm not sure the second part of the argument is related: QR fly from LHR, multiple times a day, and therefore have their own catering providers. It would have been a possibility to use that for the wet leased planes (e.g. the 'light' selection on the LHR-DOH flights would have been entirely fine). And of course, the Y snacks have to be specifically ordered as BA does not provide them at all on LHR flights despite it being their hub.
Aug 17, 2017, 1:49 am
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Yes I accept my mistaken assumption about the food. It just goes to show how low my opinion of BA is now that, when I get decent food, I assume it must be sourced by another airline! I thought it might be Qatar for the very reason that BA doesn't properly cater short haul any more.
I got CE RFS 'taxes' - 30 odd quid I think? - for my flight as I booked it just before the plane switch. So I was lucky all round. I've never been so excited about a short haul flight!
Originally Posted by dijonspurs
I'm very interested to know what you paid in taxes!
Aug 17, 2017, 2:32 am
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Yes I accept my mistaken assumption about the food. It just goes to show how low my opinion of BA is now that, when I get decent food, I assume it must be sourced by another airline! I thought it might be Qatar for the very reason that BA doesn't properly cater short haul any more.
I got CE RFS 'taxes' - 30 odd quid I think? - for my flight as I booked it just before the plane switch. So I was lucky all round. I've never been so excited about a short haul flight!
Aug 17, 2017, 10:26 am
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It is indeed BA catering, though, I'm not sure the second part of the argument is related: QR fly from LHR, multiple times a day, and therefore have their own catering providers. It would have been a possibility to use that for the wet leased planes (e.g. the 'light' selection on the LHR-DOH flights would have been entirely fine). And of course, the Y snacks have to be specifically ordered as BA does not provide them at all on LHR flights despite it being their hub.
Aug 17, 2017, 10:28 am
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Yes I accept my mistaken assumption about the food. It just goes to show how low my opinion of BA is now that, when I get decent food, I assume it must be sourced by another airline! I thought it might be Qatar for the very reason that BA doesn't properly cater short haul any more.
I got CE RFS 'taxes' - 30 odd quid I think? - for my flight as I booked it just before the plane switch. So I was lucky all round. I've never been so excited about a short haul flight!
I got CE RFS 'taxes' - 30 odd quid I think? - for my flight as I booked it just before the plane switch. So I was lucky all round. I've never been so excited about a short haul flight!
Aug 18, 2017, 4:03 am
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Originally Posted by KAFRA
Indeed. It shows how diminished the BA brand now is, sadly.
Aug 18, 2017, 4:08 am
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Indeed. It shows how diminished the BA brand now is, sadly.
Aug 18, 2017, 5:40 pm
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