JFK- MAN, BA route takeover from AA?
Aug 16, 2017, 10:07 am
#18
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I think this is just further evidence that a stand-alone regional route like that doesn't work, especially without any form of shorthaul network to help feed traffic. Sad, but true...
Aug 16, 2017, 10:14 am
#19
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It is also reported that AA are moving a significant amount of transatlantic capacity from JFK to PHL as it saves them money. They want to focus PHL as their connections hub.
Aug 16, 2017, 10:18 am
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UA and VS/DL both serve MAN from NYC with no real feed at the MAN end. As of course do EK, EY, QR, CX etc from their respective hubs.
Also it's not a 'standalone' route for AA - they have a hub at JFK. But the competition have bigger hubs.
The fact that AA have dropped it is not necessarily indicative of it 'not working' (that may or may not be so), but rather that they think they can more profit from other routes.
Last edited by Ldnn1; Aug 16, 2017 at 10:26 am
Aug 16, 2017, 10:37 am
#21
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Was there not a rumour a while ago that BA were looking to restart the JFK service (I have also heard the same about dropping LGW-JFK)...
Regarding Level, I understand the next base is likely to be Rome - so I think that is more unlikely.
Regarding Level, I understand the next base is likely to be Rome - so I think that is more unlikely.
Aug 16, 2017, 11:11 am
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It's not true.
UA and VS/DL both serve MAN from NYC with no real feed at the MAN end. As of course do EK, EY, QR, CX etc from their respective hubs.
Also it's not a 'standalone' route for AA - they have a hub at JFK. But the competition have bigger hubs.
The fact that AA have dropped it is not necessarily indicative of it 'not working' (that may or may not be so), but rather that they think they can more profit from other routes.
UA and VS/DL both serve MAN from NYC with no real feed at the MAN end. As of course do EK, EY, QR, CX etc from their respective hubs.
Also it's not a 'standalone' route for AA - they have a hub at JFK. But the competition have bigger hubs.
The fact that AA have dropped it is not necessarily indicative of it 'not working' (that may or may not be so), but rather that they think they can more profit from other routes.
While UA doesn't have shorthaul feed at MAN - VS kinda do with BE.
BUT.. they both have hubs at EWR (UA) and JFK (DL) to help feed the route.
AA don't have much of a hub at JFK and are actually reducing flights there...and nothing at the MAN end.
Aug 16, 2017, 11:38 am
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Aug 16, 2017, 11:56 am
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Aug 16, 2017, 12:38 pm
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Both PHL & ORD have much better onward AA connections so if something had to go JFK makes sense. I can't see any good reason for BA to take it up again.
Aug 16, 2017, 1:31 pm
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It looks like AA is doing quite some reshuffling for their JFK operations as they want to move ZRH-JFK to PHL and open PHL-PRG/BUD. PHL really makes more sense for connections than JFK!
Aug 20, 2017, 3:21 pm
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Well it's definitely happening:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...route-20170820
As of 25 March 2018 New York JFK – Manchester 1 daily seasonal 757 service cancelled.
Also Chicago O’Hare – Manchester eff 24MAR18 787-8 replaces 767 in S17, 1 daily.
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...route-20170820
As of 25 March 2018 New York JFK – Manchester 1 daily seasonal 757 service cancelled.
Also Chicago O’Hare – Manchester eff 24MAR18 787-8 replaces 767 in S17, 1 daily.