Jan 29, 2017, 3:53 pm
Last edit by: Globaliser
A collaborative collection and discussion of nice Avios-earning and TP-earning J & F premium fare deals.
This thread is not for TP runs or published sales.
Some links to relevant threads for that can be found below.
Also in 2017: Enjoy your Premium Experience.
This thread is not for TP runs or published sales.
Some links to relevant threads for that can be found below.
Also in 2017: Enjoy your Premium Experience.
Oneworld: Italy and various EU to New York in club €1250
Current QR Sale Fares (yes, I did...)
QR/UL FRA-MLE via DOH+CMB: 1380€ RT across the board. 640 TP.
Switzerland/Italy/Sweden to East & West Coast USA in WTP (PE) €600/690 (3x Avios)
Update August 4th 2017:
QR: TUN-DOH-KUL return (J), ~£1000, 560TP
QR: TUN-DOH-JNB return (J), ~£1111, 560TP
QR: VCE-DOH-BKK return (J), ~£1242, 560TP
QR: HEL-DOH-BKK return (J), ~£1321, 560TP [AVAILABLE - BOOKING 23AUG17 ONLY - FOR GBP1217]
MH: KUL-PER return (J), ~£664, 280TP
BA/AA: LHR-MIA-PTY return (J), ~£1300, 560TP
BA: MXP-LHR-DXB return (J), ~£1150, 360TP
BA: AMS-LHR-BKK return (J), ~£1300, 360TP
BA/IB/AA: MXP-LHR/MAD-JFK return (J), ~£1700, 360TP
BA/AA: INV-LHR-ORD return (J), ~£1300, 360TP
QR/UL: FRA-DOH-CMB-MLE return (J), ~£1351, 640TP
AY: OSL-HEL-BKK return (J), ~£1200, 360TP
AY: ARN-HEL-BKK return (J), ~£1300, 360TP
BA: HEL-LHR-BRU-LHR-HEL (J) ~£580, 240TP
Expired
Finnair J, ARN / GOT - BKK, 1150 GBP return (valid till Jan 9th)
TXL and Portugal to JNB for £1350/1450 on BA discussed from post 5021 onwards.. (expired 1st Feb)
CONSOLIDATED QR 2017 Travel Festival Fares
LHR-Asia/Oz for £1100/1500 on MH
FIRST CLASS - RTM/AMS/BRU to West Coast (SFO, SAN, YVR, SEA) starting at £2330...(Expired 1st Feb)
For promos to the US (often, but TP heavy routes in general) it is always a good idea to look at BA Tier Point Runs 2017 master thread. Current sales are often in the Wiki there.
Please use http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...are-deals.html for WT or WTP deals.
Here is a link to the original Premium Fare Deals thread.
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Premium Fare Deals (J and F) - 2017 edition
Jun 12, 2017, 12:35 am
#736
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: BCN
Programs: BA GGL, IB, LH, IHG Gold
Posts: 582
Hello all!
A complex question for which I need some help, please. Last Summer, the six of us in my singing group each got this amazing six-sector itinerary - with at least a week between each sector - with four in long-haul J, for £3,400. The routing looked like this: CPH-LHR-ORD-LHR-DFW/LAX-LHR-ZRH. I want to do something similar this year (eventually using a GUF1 to upgrade all the long-hauls to F). The sectors I need to do are as follows:
31st October 2017 - LHR-JFK (morning)
20th November 2017 - LAX-LHR (preferably the 280)
17th January 2018 - LHR-YYZ (the 93)
29th January 2018 - IAD-LHR (preferably the last of the day)
The positioning/final sectors can each be taken within 24 hours of the first/last flights, and the only absolute criterion is that each long-haul sector has A availability for the GUF1 to work (the only flight that's totally fixed is the flight to Toronto on January 17th). I've tried using the ITA Matrix, but I'm not sure I'm good enough to make an itinerary this complex work. The cheapest I can find is with IST at the beginning and end, for a total of US$5,425.05 (approx. £4,260). I'm confident there's better! Does anyone have any ideas?
Also, can someone explain how these itineraries work? Is it treated as IST-LON-IST with a very strange and convoluted routing? Or as IST-JFK/IAD-IST with a strange LAX-LHR-YYZ thrown in the middle? If anyone could qualify, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks so much!
A complex question for which I need some help, please. Last Summer, the six of us in my singing group each got this amazing six-sector itinerary - with at least a week between each sector - with four in long-haul J, for £3,400. The routing looked like this: CPH-LHR-ORD-LHR-DFW/LAX-LHR-ZRH. I want to do something similar this year (eventually using a GUF1 to upgrade all the long-hauls to F). The sectors I need to do are as follows:
31st October 2017 - LHR-JFK (morning)
20th November 2017 - LAX-LHR (preferably the 280)
17th January 2018 - LHR-YYZ (the 93)
29th January 2018 - IAD-LHR (preferably the last of the day)
The positioning/final sectors can each be taken within 24 hours of the first/last flights, and the only absolute criterion is that each long-haul sector has A availability for the GUF1 to work (the only flight that's totally fixed is the flight to Toronto on January 17th). I've tried using the ITA Matrix, but I'm not sure I'm good enough to make an itinerary this complex work. The cheapest I can find is with IST at the beginning and end, for a total of US$5,425.05 (approx. £4,260). I'm confident there's better! Does anyone have any ideas?
Also, can someone explain how these itineraries work? Is it treated as IST-LON-IST with a very strange and convoluted routing? Or as IST-JFK/IAD-IST with a strange LAX-LHR-YYZ thrown in the middle? If anyone could qualify, I'd be very grateful.
Thanks so much!
And if you don't mind using CAI as your starting point, you can squeeze several hundred pounds off the price again.
Itinerary starting in CAI for 2371 GBP - shame BA will take the 787 off the 154/155 on 28/10, and swap it for a 321.
Last edited by ubiest; Jun 12, 2017 at 12:44 am
Jun 12, 2017, 3:00 am
#737
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: Executive Club
Posts: 78
The exDUB ILN8S4T1 fare is pricing well for Easter 2018. It is not great for TPs but it's good value.
I managed to book in J DUB-LHR-SFO then open jaw LAS-LAX-LHR-GLA-EDI-DUB for £1,390 per person.
EDI-DUB is the day after I get back to Glasgow (where I am based) so I can complete the last leg HBO.
Managed to book via BA for less than AA and Google Flgihts said it would be.
I did phone BA to book so I could pay in £.
Service centre were excellent and I was all booked in under 15 minutes.
I managed to book in J DUB-LHR-SFO then open jaw LAS-LAX-LHR-GLA-EDI-DUB for £1,390 per person.
EDI-DUB is the day after I get back to Glasgow (where I am based) so I can complete the last leg HBO.
Managed to book via BA for less than AA and Google Flgihts said it would be.
I did phone BA to book so I could pay in £.
Service centre were excellent and I was all booked in under 15 minutes.
Jun 12, 2017, 3:50 am
#738
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, Freccia Alta, Accor Platinum, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 79
Jun 12, 2017, 9:37 am
#740
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Platinum
Posts: 57
I agree I don't think it will be an issue. I can't see BA sending them along the M8.
My view is it will be along the lines of flying into LHR and the connecting flight being from LGW.
Plus physically the flight is the next day. I get into GLA at 1330 and the EDI flight is the next morning, so that helps.
My view is it will be along the lines of flying into LHR and the connecting flight being from LGW.
Plus physically the flight is the next day. I get into GLA at 1330 and the EDI flight is the next morning, so that helps.
Jun 12, 2017, 10:45 am
#741
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Glasgow, UK
Programs: Seigneur des Tarifs Utils First Class Mucci with Honours :) - BA GGL / CCR
Posts: 1,551
I agree I don't think it will be an issue. I can't see BA sending them along the M8.
My view is it will be along the lines of flying into LHR and the connecting flight being from LGW.
Plus physically the flight is the next day. I get into GLA at 1330 and the EDI flight is the next morning, so that helps.
My view is it will be along the lines of flying into LHR and the connecting flight being from LGW.
Plus physically the flight is the next day. I get into GLA at 1330 and the EDI flight is the next morning, so that helps.
Jun 12, 2017, 1:34 pm
#742
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,262
Credit to Mileage Run Premium Fares - there's some amazing Fares on *A exVIE
Fingers crossed OneWorld match... if not these still might be handy for someone considering the exDUB aren't great and date restrictive
Fingers crossed OneWorld match... if not these still might be handy for someone considering the exDUB aren't great and date restrictive
Jun 14, 2017, 5:24 am
#744
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2014
Location: UK
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 12,262
They enhanced it away themselves ! To be fair, the exDUB - USA deal is still tasty around £1,200 and you could lower that if you have plenty of Avios to spare
Jun 15, 2017, 10:43 am
#745
Join Date: May 2014
Location: BRU
Programs: BA GGL, TK E (*G), ITA exec
Posts: 4,100
If anyone can be interested I am seeing HEL-LAS starting at 1470 eur, various dates from July on, plus a possibility for 29 June.
I didn't went further than the "select flights" page, as I am in a bit of a hurry.
I didn't went further than the "select flights" page, as I am in a bit of a hurry.
Jun 15, 2017, 2:19 pm
#746
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Scotland
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 363
Back in the day British Caledonian did an LHR-EDI-GLA-LHR during the day, off peak times. THe flight time wheels up to touch down was about 14 mins
Jun 15, 2017, 4:56 pm
#747
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Glasgow / London
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 3,457
I've done it once! Early morning flight, maybe 22 years or so ago. As we were about the leave Glasgow, en route to London, the captain announced that we would be stopping off in Edinburgh to pick up some passangers due to a cancelled flight. Felt like we were in the air for about 5 minutes!
Jun 16, 2017, 2:16 am
#749
Ambassador, British Airways; FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
Programs: BA GGL/CCR, GfL, HH Diamond
Posts: 42,967
It is there on itamatrix.
BA/AA fare in business from HEL to LAS INX4D4Z1
LAS is €1471
It seems to be confined to LAS and doesn't include other US destinations?
BA/AA fare in business from HEL to LAS INX4D4Z1
LAS is €1471
It seems to be confined to LAS and doesn't include other US destinations?
PERMITTED TUE THROUGH THU
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Code:
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN
EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN
EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 20 JUN 17.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
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WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
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WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
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REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
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ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
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-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE EUR 300.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
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CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
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A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
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REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
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WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
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--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
REPRICE USING ANY FARE TYPE EXCEPT ERU AND EOU.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
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1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
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WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
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WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
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ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
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NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
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TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Jun 16, 2017, 11:36 am
#750
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Staffordshire
Programs: BA Gold, IHG Platinum Amb
Posts: 150
Hello
Im about to book an ex-Dub trip to New York on the INX4D4Z1 fare that KARFA posted above. DUB-LHR-JFK and back in October is 1390 Euro in Club Europe and Club world.
However I am booking it on AA.com but all four flights are on British Airways with BA flight no.s. There are no AA codeshares or flights in the routing I want to do. Once I book on AA.com will this trip/flights show in MMB on the BA website. I know AA uses Sabre and BA Amadeus. I know when I have booked before and it was part AA part BA, some flights showed up on MMB. I have a BAEC account but not an AA one. If it doesnt show can I use the old trick of putting the AA ref no. into the Qantas website to find the Amadeus PNR?
Hope this all makes sense
Brian
Im about to book an ex-Dub trip to New York on the INX4D4Z1 fare that KARFA posted above. DUB-LHR-JFK and back in October is 1390 Euro in Club Europe and Club world.
However I am booking it on AA.com but all four flights are on British Airways with BA flight no.s. There are no AA codeshares or flights in the routing I want to do. Once I book on AA.com will this trip/flights show in MMB on the BA website. I know AA uses Sabre and BA Amadeus. I know when I have booked before and it was part AA part BA, some flights showed up on MMB. I have a BAEC account but not an AA one. If it doesnt show can I use the old trick of putting the AA ref no. into the Qantas website to find the Amadeus PNR?
Hope this all makes sense
Brian