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** AA Domestic First on two cabin will earn business TPs and avios for departures on or after 11 January 2017 - see reference posts for more details **
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
Advanced Promotion Fares
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
** Note that the practice of AA Domestic 3-class service flights booking into A for 210 TPs when I was no longer available ceased in September 2017. Discussion here. **
Welcome to the thread. This is a continuation of the highly popular 2016 Tier Point thread. We keep track of other prices, as well as useful reference information for those planning tier point runs.
Please read the first few posts in this thread first as it contains lots of information which may answer your question.
This is a community-maintained wiki post. Please add important information to it or correct outdated information by clicking the "Edit" button below!
Current Promotions of Interest
Sale Fares
- from AMS/RTM to US ILN4T7S6/INX6T7S6 reported in this post and this post, e.g. NYC - €1,461, ORD - €1,492, LAS - €1,460, needs to be booked by 25 September, see linked post for details
- from PRG to US ILN4T8S6 reported in this post, e.g. IAD - £1,033, MIA - £1,133, ATL - £1,080, needs to be booked by 21 September, see linked post for details
Advanced Promotion Fares
- from DUB to US ILN8C1S6 reported here, e.g. NYC - €1,472, MIA - €1,578, see linked post for details
- froM DUB to US ILN8S4C1 reported here, e.g. JFK - €1,427, MIA - €1,532, LAS - €1,667, LAX - €1,795, HNL - €2,095, this is an advanced purchase fare so no book by deadline, see linked post for details
- from OTP to PHX ILN8R4C1 reported here, e.g. PHX - £1,252, see linked post for details
- from AMS to BKK INCEU60 reported here, e.g. BKK - £1,216, see linked post for details
See here in post # 8 for a 2017 archive of exEU sale fare, and see here in post # 445 for a 2016 archive of exEU sale fares.
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This thread lists attractive tier point (TP) runs under £3 per TP grouped within different (departure) geographies
Please note that current availability is not guaranteed and all prices include taxes. Please use the following convention when adding tier point runs to this wiki post:
Date fare checked Price per Tier Point Total Price Total Tier Points Route Booking Classes Booking Channel Credit Notes (if applicable) Airlines
Please remember to:
- Convert currencies to GBP, rounding to the nearest pound.
- Post full routes and full booking classes.
- Note any restrictions on booking in the Notes section.
- List in order of price per tier point within the relevant departure area.
Please see the links at the bottom of the wiki for archives of runs from previous years.
From Europe
24APR £0.90/TP £400 440 TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-KOI-ABZ ; TLL-BA/AY-HEL-LON-GLA-SDZ-ABZ (see post #1221)
02NOV £1.33/TP £583 440 LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR-NCL//NCL-LHR-HEL-TLL/TLL-HEL-LHR IIIIIIIIII Google Flights armouredant 2 nested tickets, both other a Saturday night. BA ticket, BA & AY metal, AY A350 possible LHR-HEL
08FEB £1.33/TP £346 260 JER-LGW-RAK-LGW-RAK I/I/I/I BA.com ramops
14AUG £1.65/TP £593 360 OSL-HEL-AGP-HEL-OSL I-I-I-I ITA Flythe96flag SH J cabin + possible red-eye (!) AY
26JUL £1.81/TP £72.70 40 MAD-FRA Z lan.com Prospero 787 flat bed LA
1JAN £1.85/TP £444 240 JER-LGW/LHR-HEL J/I/I/J ITA Matrix flatlander Available most weekends first half of 2016, fare IM0R
23NOV £1.89/TP £377 200 DUB-LHR-MAD-SVQ r/t I-I-I-I-I-I ITA Lorcancoyle IM0B IB DUB to SVQ BA and IB flights (I2 for domestic under IB code), random dates in December available, A340 on some dates (helpfully pointed out by Temps that domestic Spain is only 20 TPs)
24NOV £1.91/TP £765.00 400 BUD-DOH-SHJ I/A/I/A QR.com Wozza2404 A320 QR
11AUG £2.10/TP £420 200 AMS-LHR-GLA-LSI-ABZ-LSI-GLA-LHR-AMS I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix --> Priceline.com MrMutton
13NOV £2.56/TP £410 160 LHR-HEL ? BA.com Lorcancoyle wide open as flight+hotel, can reduce with TCB cash back BA
From North, Central and South America
26Jan £1.50/TP £960 640 LGA-CMH-DCA-PHL-RDU-CLT-ATL-MIA-PTY and return I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I/I ITA Matrix--> BookWithMatrix dot com --> AA.com HPN-HRL other routings available; reverse routing is £40 more - see post 388 AA
10MAY £2.50/TP £203 80 ORF-CLT-ORD I/I AA.com
21MAY £2.08/TP £250 120 YYZ-PHL/LGA-CLT-ORF/PHF I/I/I AA.com
22NOV £1.43/TP £172 120 DCA-(LGA/BOS/PHL)-CLT-RDU (one way, reverse works as well) I/I/I ITA->BWM->priceline.com
From Middle East, Asia and Australasia
23Feb £0.99/TP £356 360 TPE-xKUL-PEN(JHB)-xKUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com ermen two day min stay, promo fare MH
04JAN £1.10/TP £44 40 KUL-PEN D http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/uk/en.html fitch Works in both directions, rtn £80 if you can make the timnings work MH
11Nov £0.85/TP £307 360 TPE-KUL-SIN-KUL-TPE Z http://www.malaysiaairlines.com neofung
From Africa
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Need a year-end TP run (ex-LON) to make / retain status?
Some tips for searching for the year-end TP run for newcomers, the below is indicative only, but hopefully provides a bit of guidance for relatively straightforward runs ex-LON. The guide to using ITA matrix in post #4 (see here) along with these ideas, might come in handy. Feel free to share results, problems or general questions in the thread as these may not always work and there might be better deals out there...
For overnight trips remember to check BA and Iberia for their flights and hotel option as well, can get hotel for almost no extra cost at times
Need 80 TPs or fewer
Club Europe return somewhere close by is best - DUB, AMS and JER usually cheapest. AMS and JER easier than DUB for an immediate turnaround. The BA.com low fare finder can be very useful.
If you need as few as 45 TPs you might consider booking economy flights and hoping for a proactive online upgrade offer - but they're not guaranteed to materialise (so not one if you have no more time left in your TP collection year). Alternatively, booking a return to one of the 40 tier point destinations with one way in CE and the return in ET (or vice versa if cheaper). Bilbao, Jersey and Amsterdam seems the most cost effective for this.
Need 85-120 TPs
Iberia flights via MAD to regional Spanish airports will get you 120 TPs as the domestic Spanish flights are 20 TPs in business. Under £300 including hotel can be available. Check BIO, GRX, VLC, BCN, SVQ etc. Example here
Need 125-160 TPs
Take a look at the shorthaul plus routes earning 80 TPs each way in business listed in the first post (here) MLA, IST, HEL and RAK are usually available. If time sensitive take a look at BA flight and hotel option to HEL, where you can usually get the last BA flight out on a Saturday, airport hotel and first return Sunday for well under £500.
Alternative options include positioning to JER and flying JER-LGW-XXX (AMS usually works well and avoids switching airports)
Need more than 160 TPs
You'll most likely be heading north then - OSL or VNO via HEL will get you 240 TPs, as will JER-LGW/LHR-HEL e.g. LHR-HEL-OSL for £520. Also the BA fare for LHR-HEL-TLL at ~£235 is still available and would get 200 TPs for a return.
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Historic information
2016 Archive
2015 Archive (6 months Jul to Dec)
2015 Archive (6 months Jan to Jun)
2014 Archive
.
BA Tier Point Runs | 2017 master thread
Mar 31, 2017, 11:58 am
#1186
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 7,464
I would like to make an opposing view on the DUB-PHL route using the A330s - this is an excellent product, much better than the 757s on the JFK route.
Mar 31, 2017, 12:15 pm
#1187
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Mar 31, 2017, 1:08 pm
#1188
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I stand corrected, as I've only ever done the old 757 LAX - HNL, ignore my dismissal of them. The route I picked was for the 321T and avoidance of the 757 entirely. My last 757 was in 2015 and it was not enjoyable.
Mar 31, 2017, 10:36 pm
#1189
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dorset, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 635
Not sure if it has been posted but MAN-SAT etc has been filed again. Ticket by 25 April this time. New fare rule added - must be AA operated and marketed transatlantic. Looks like it is much harder to use now, but it's nonetheless there at the same price as the last round.
Apr 1, 2017, 4:16 am
#1190
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Sussex, UK
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Posts: 660
Apr 1, 2017, 5:12 am
#1191
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Leeds, UK
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Not sure if it has been posted but MAN-SAT etc has been filed again. Ticket by 25 April this time. New fare rule added - must be AA operated and marketed transatlantic. Looks like it is much harder to use now, but it's nonetheless there at the same price as the last round.
Thanks for noting, will add something to the wiki and fare post
Apr 1, 2017, 5:47 am
#1192
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AA ILN7B4T1 MAN to SAT/OKC/LIT - ~£1,046 in J
It seems the MAN-SAT AA fare has been refilled yet again so details below. Also covers MAN to OKC, and LIT..
Doesn't work for other UK non-LON AA departure points or allow routing via LON.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,046
LIT - £1,006
SAT - £1,046
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
640 TPs is possible with MAN-JFK-xxx-SAT routing, where xxx is somewhere on the US west coast and is over 2000 miles from JFK - a list of > 2000 mile routes which earn 140 TPs is in post #2 of this thread.
It seems the MAN-SAT AA fare has been refilled yet again so details below. Also covers MAN to OKC, and LIT..
Doesn't work for other UK non-LON AA departure points or allow routing via LON.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,046
LIT - £1,006
SAT - £1,046
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
640 TPs is possible with MAN-JFK-xxx-SAT routing, where xxx is somewhere on the US west coast and is over 2000 miles from JFK - a list of > 2000 mile routes which earn 140 TPs is in post #2 of this thread.
PERMITTED 27 MAR 17 THROUGH 30 SEP 17 FOR EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 24 MAY 17.
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA LON
Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA.
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
Code:
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1 PERMITTED FREE BETWEEN AA AND VY IN BCN/ROM IN EACH
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2 PERMITTED FREE IN EUROPE IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AS IN LAX/PDX/
SEA IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AM IN MEXICO
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND AC IN CANADA
IN EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/AY/BA/IB/US AND HA IN HAWAII
IN EACH DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/AY/BA/IB/US ONLY IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
Code:
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
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IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBERS AND TRAVELLING
COMPANIONS
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE
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WHEN COMBINING A REFUNDABLE FARE WITH A
NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED LESS ANY APPLICABLE
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2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON THE NON-REFUNDABLE
FARE COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED
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REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
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FOR TRAVEL AGENCY BOOKINGS MADE IN MEXICO / THE
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CHANGEABLE FARES THE CHANGEABLE FARE
COMPONENTS REMAIN CHANGEABLE.
Last edited by KARFA; May 13, 2017 at 3:57 am
Apr 1, 2017, 6:02 am
#1193
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: London
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Posts: 6,720
The old AA 757 J seats were awful, IMO, and even worse for the OH whose seat did not move at all on the flight from JFK to DUB.
Would only get on an AA 757 if I knew the flat bed seats had been installed.
Apr 1, 2017, 7:19 am
#1194
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA Executive Club and OnBusiness
Posts: 720
Thanks to Beaulieu for noting this in post #1189, it seems the MAN-SAT AA fare has been refilled so details below. Also covers MAN to OKC, LIT, and BOS.
AA ILN7B4T1 MAN to SAT/OKC/LIT/BOS - ~£1,049 in J
Doesn't seem to work for other UK non-LON AA departure points or allow routing via LON.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,049
SAT - £1,049
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible.
As noted previously by rossmacd - can be routed MAN-HEL-JFK-BOS and return. So 520 TPs in total. You could get 600 TP max if you went via HEL both out and back and did two transfers in the US, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-DCA-BOS rtn. MAN-HEL and then on to JFK or ORD. If you route via HEL you can't do a >2000 mile route in the US though due to maximum permitted mileage, so something like MAN-HEL-JFK-PHX-SAT wouldn't work.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
640 TPs is possible with MAN-JFK-xxx-SAT routing, where xxx is somewhere on the US west coast and is over 2000 miles from JFK
AA ILN7B4T1 MAN to SAT/OKC/LIT/BOS - ~£1,049 in J
Doesn't seem to work for other UK non-LON AA departure points or allow routing via LON.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
Example prices:
OKC - £1,049
SAT - £1,049
Routings such as MAN-BOS-DFW-SAT or MAN-JFK-PHX-SAT should be possible.
Note that the routing via HEL and on to JFK is no longer possible now since the fare rules only allow routing on the TATL on AA operated flights.
640 TPs is possible with MAN-JFK-xxx-SAT routing, where xxx is somewhere on the US west coast and is over 2000 miles from JFK
I'm looking to go to OKC or SAT for 7 days in early September but this fare seems to be only pricing up via ORD/DFW.
Can anyone find 640 TPs for £1,048 in the real world or is this fare just going to continue to be a tease - I've lost track of the hours I've spent chasing this over the past few weeks!
Apr 1, 2017, 7:50 am
#1195
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Many thanks Beaulieu and Karfa. Matrix doesn't find any routings via BOS/DFW or JFK/XXX for this price, and AA.com wants to charge over £2,800.
I'm looking to go to OKC or SAT for 7 days in early September but this fare seems to be only pricing up via ORD/DFW.
Can anyone find 640 TPs for £1,048 in the real world or is this fare just going to continue to be a tease - I've lost track of the hours I've spent chasing this over the past few weeks!
I'm looking to go to OKC or SAT for 7 days in early September but this fare seems to be only pricing up via ORD/DFW.
Can anyone find 640 TPs for £1,048 in the real world or is this fare just going to continue to be a tease - I've lost track of the hours I've spent chasing this over the past few weeks!
On 640 maybe they have brought the MPM down? I notice it is now 5827 whereas MAN-PHL-PHX-SAT would be 6352. Not sure there is any way to lever a 2000 mile US domestic route in now?
Apr 1, 2017, 8:25 am
#1196
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 5,041
Try putting in the intermediate points explicitly.
From : ARN
Routing codes: BA,AY HEL BA LHR BA /f bc=T
To: SFO
Routing codes: BA LHR BA HEL BA,AY /f bc=T
Play and amend as you like. Don't put the start or end cities in the routing codes box.
You could also set "minimum cabin" to cheapest available. Your bc=T will keep you in premium Y over the Atlantic but if your ARN-HEL flight is Y, Matrix has trouble deciding whether to allow it or not since it's below premium economy.
From : ARN
Routing codes: BA,AY HEL BA LHR BA /f bc=T
To: SFO
Routing codes: BA LHR BA HEL BA,AY /f bc=T
Play and amend as you like. Don't put the start or end cities in the routing codes box.
You could also set "minimum cabin" to cheapest available. Your bc=T will keep you in premium Y over the Atlantic but if your ARN-HEL flight is Y, Matrix has trouble deciding whether to allow it or not since it's below premium economy.
I just had a look at it again, the lowest price is this which have a weird rule.
TLX6R4C1
Category 1: Eligibility restrictions
VALID FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED
ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT
CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT.
(and routing via HEL makes it a lot more expensive)
Apr 1, 2017, 9:03 am
#1197
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: BA Gold/ Star Alliance Gold
Posts: 401
Attachment 29859
Hi Ned1968,
I can confirm succesful booking of the below AA flights for the price shown - on Thursday.
AA converted the price on the phone back to GBP, total 1166,94 per ticket.
The fare appeared and disappeared several times from then to today.
Now I can also no longer re-produce the routing.
But as a proof point, fare was bookable.
Perhaps it comes back with the old rules.
I can confirm succesful booking of the below AA flights for the price shown - on Thursday.
AA converted the price on the phone back to GBP, total 1166,94 per ticket.
The fare appeared and disappeared several times from then to today.
Now I can also no longer re-produce the routing.
But as a proof point, fare was bookable.
Perhaps it comes back with the old rules.
Last edited by Shl; Apr 1, 2017 at 9:13 am
Apr 1, 2017, 11:03 am
#1198
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dorset, UK
Programs: BA GGL
Posts: 635
It's definitely there - google flights will produce some routings on some dates but it is much more challenging now as I think they've added tighter restrictions.
BOS in theory is ok up to end of April again if you can find it. Max theoretical TP is 680TP if routed via HEL and CDG or FRA with the TATL on AA prime, then 2 sectors within the US, if you can price it up.
BOS in theory is ok up to end of April again if you can find it. Max theoretical TP is 680TP if routed via HEL and CDG or FRA with the TATL on AA prime, then 2 sectors within the US, if you can price it up.
Apr 1, 2017, 2:17 pm
#1199
Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: BA Executive Club and OnBusiness
Posts: 720
It's definitely there - google flights will produce some routings on some dates but it is much more challenging now as I think they've added tighter restrictions.
BOS in theory is ok up to end of April again if you can find it. Max theoretical TP is 680TP if routed via HEL and CDG or FRA with the TATL on AA prime, then 2 sectors within the US, if you can price it up.
BOS in theory is ok up to end of April again if you can find it. Max theoretical TP is 680TP if routed via HEL and CDG or FRA with the TATL on AA prime, then 2 sectors within the US, if you can price it up.
Apr 1, 2017, 4:05 pm
#1200
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Gold, IHG Spire Ambassador, Starbucks Gold,
Posts: 624
Given that CE domestics are now 40TP, the AMS-LON-GLA-LSI-ABZ fare I used last summer returns even better value. It is currently showing as £465 for 320TP on ITA Matrix and will give 10k Avios (as Gold) which pays for the RFS positioning flights to AMS if required!
At £1.45/TP it is probably one of the better options for a TP run close to home.
At £1.45/TP it is probably one of the better options for a TP run close to home.