Why can't I find this ba.com fare on ITA Matrix?
Sep 20, 2016, 9:48 am
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Why can't I find this ba.com fare on ITA Matrix?
Trying to book LHR-IAD/BOS-LHR in WTP. Out 16 Nov back 30 Nov. Nonstops.
ba.com gives a £833.45 fare in T class. I had guessed this part of sale ending tomorrow night but may be wrong. I'd love to find this fare in Matrix to get the rules but can't find anything less than £1287.45 for same flights in WTP which is explained as an "shoulder season midweek premium economy instant purchase fare" in the rules, but without, in quick scan there, any purchase by date, thought I assume there is one.
Basic question: why doesn't Matrix reveal the "good" ba.com fare.
Thanks, NTFM
ba.com gives a £833.45 fare in T class. I had guessed this part of sale ending tomorrow night but may be wrong. I'd love to find this fare in Matrix to get the rules but can't find anything less than £1287.45 for same flights in WTP which is explained as an "shoulder season midweek premium economy instant purchase fare" in the rules, but without, in quick scan there, any purchase by date, thought I assume there is one.
Basic question: why doesn't Matrix reveal the "good" ba.com fare.
Thanks, NTFM
Sep 20, 2016, 9:56 am
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I suspect it is this one QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
There seem to be a number of special WTP fares which are only available via ba.com.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
There seem to be a number of special WTP fares which are only available via ba.com.
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Routing Search:
Departing LHR on 16/11/16 for IAD
Fare basis code QLX4S4T1/DIF4
Flying BA
Routing via North Atlantic
Rule Category Rule Text
ELIGIBILITY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
VALID FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED
ACCOUNT CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT. THIS FARE IS VALID FOR A SPECIFIED ACCOUNT
CODE. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
OR - FOR ADULT.
DAY/TIME FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM FOR MIDWEEK -LX TYPE FARES
FROM UNITED KINGDOM -
PERMITTED MON THROUGH WED ON EACH TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
SEASONALITY FOR -L TYPE FARES WITH FOOTNOTE 6E
PERMITTED 29OCT 16 THROUGH 12DEC 16 OR 25DEC 16 THROUGH
29MAR 17 ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
FLIGHT APPLICATION BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
HA FLIGHTS 1900 THROUGH 9999.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN PUERTO
RICO/US VIRGIN ISLANDS AND THE UNITED STATES/CANADA ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AS FLIGHT
ANY B6 FLIGHT
ANY HA FLIGHT
ANY WS FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA SEN/STN
AIRPORTS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BE FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY VY
IN COMBINATION WITH
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BT
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HN
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY US
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7
ANY AB FLIGHT
ANY AF FLIGHT
ANY AY FLIGHT
ANY AT FLIGHT
ANY BE FLIGHT
ANY BT FLIGHT
ANY HG FLIGHT
ANY IG FLIGHT
ANY JP FLIGHT
ANY JU FLIGHT
ANY KK FLIGHT
ANY KM FLIGHT
ANY OU FLIGHT
ANY RO FLIGHT
ANY OV FLIGHT
ANY S7 FLIGHT
ANY TU FLIGHT
ANY US FLIGHT
ANY 6E FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY IB FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY AY FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AB
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY AY
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
ANY AB FLIGHT OPERATED BY IB
ANY HG FLIGHT OPERATED BY HG
ANY S7 FLIGHT OPERATED BY S7
ANY AT FLIGHT OPERATED BY AT
ANY BE FLIGHT OPERATED BY BE
ANY BT FLIGHT OPERATED BY BT
ANY IG FLIGHT OPERATED BY IG
ANY JP FLIGHT OPERATED BY JP
ANY JU FLIGHT OPERATED BY JU
ANY KK FLIGHT OPERATED BY KK
ANY KM FLIGHT OPERATED BY KM
ANY OU FLIGHT OPERATED BY OU
ANY OV FLIGHT OPERATED BY OV
ANY RO FLIGHT OPERATED BY RO
ANY TU FLIGHT OPERATED BY TU
ANY FB FLIGHT OPERATED BY FB
ANY 9B FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN CANADA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY WS FLIGHT OPERATED BY WS.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN HAWAII
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN THE UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS
ANY HA FLIGHT OPERATED BY HA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA AND
THE UNITED STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HAWAII AND
CONTIGUOUS U.S.A./ALASKA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
ANY AS FLIGHT OPERATED BY AS.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY BA FLIGHT.
ADVANCE RES/TICKETING UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE JB05 IN IPRG
APPLIES
FOR -X4 TYPE FARES
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS
BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
NOTE -
DUE TO TTL ROBOT PROCESS DIFFERENCES MAY EXIST
BETWEEN THE CRS LAST TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT
REMARK.
THE INFORMATION BY SSR IN THE PNR PREVAILS.
MINIMUM STAY FOR ROUND TRIP FARES
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN
THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR.
MAXIMUM STAY BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 12
MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
STOPOVERS BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 FOR Q- TYPE FARES
STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.
TRANSFERS BETWEEN EUROPE AND AREA 1
2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
2 FREE ON AA/AB/AY/BA/HG/IB ONLY IN EUROPE IN EACH
DIRECTION.
AND - 2 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION FREE
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND B6 IN BOS/JFK IN
EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND AS IN LAX/PDX/SEA IN
EACH DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND WS IN CANADA IN EACH
DIRECTION
1 FREE BETWEEN AA/BA/IB AND HA IN HAWAII IN EACH
DIRECTION
2 FREE ON AA/BA/IB ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES/
CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND
EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE
COMPONENT.
PERMITTED COMBINATIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA
FARES
-TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS.
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE
-BETWEEN AREA 2 AND AREA 3
-WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 2 OR WITHIN AREA 3
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
IN TARIFF
FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
IN TARIFF
FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATLANTIC
SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATLANTIC
TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH BA
FARES
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER BA IN ANY
RULE IN TARIFF
AATBAR - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
FBRA12P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 2 EXCEPT US/CA
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
IN TARIFF
FBRA13P - BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3 EXCEPT US/CA
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC OR WITH FARES IN ANY RULE
IN TARIFF
FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC
IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
IPRSAA3 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATLANTIC
SA2BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VIA
ATLANTIC
SA3BAR - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 3 VIA
ATLANTIC
TAFPBAR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
SURCHARGES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES
IF INFANT UNDER 02 WITHOUT A SEAT.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
A SURCHARGE OF GBP 29.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE
FARE FOR TRAVEL.
PROVIDED TRAVEL IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
BA FLIGHT 2273.
BETWEEN NORTH AMERICA AND UNITED KINGDOM
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR IB.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AS.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR QF.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR AY.
FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01APR 14
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON BA OR US.
THERE IS NO CHARGE FOR TRAVEL.
AND - ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM -
A SURCHARGE OF GBP 119.50 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR TRAVEL.
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 27AUG 13.
SALES RESTRICTIONS FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16.
PENALTIES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES
NOT APPLY
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
----------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
----------------------------------------------
-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
----------------------------------------------
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
CONNECTIONS.
AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY
FOR STOPOVERS.
TICKET ENDORSEMENT UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
467107/L/BA-IB ONLY - AND - NON-REF/NON-END - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES NOT
APPLY
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF
THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS BY ADULT.
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
AGENT DISCOUNTS NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
THIS FARE MUST NOT BE USED AS THE HIGH OR THE LOW FARE
WHEN CALCULATING A DIFFERENTIAL. THIS FARE MUST NOT BE
USED AS THE THROUGH FARE WHEN PRICING A FARE COMPONENT
WITH A DIFFERENTIAL.
FARE BY RULE BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND THE UNITED STATES
ORIGINATING UNITED KINGDOM -
FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
OR - FARE BY RULE CATEGORY PROVISIONS EXIST
VOLUNTARY CHANGES BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 FOR Q- TYPE FARES
IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE GBP 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FARE COMPONENT
2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED
4. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT TODAY
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
4. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO DEPARTURE
OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN BY
THOSE OF BA INTERNATIONAL FARES
CHARGE GBP 150.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL CHANGED FARE
COMPONENTS - DISCOUNTS APPLY - NO FEE FOR INFANTS W/O
SEAT AND
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER Q- FARE FAMILY IS USED
5. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
6. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
OR -
REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL MUST
BE DOMESTIC
2. FULLY FLOWN FARE NOT REPRICED TO FURTHER POINT
3. CHANGE IS BEFORE ORIGINAL SCHEDULED FLIGHT
4. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
5. NEW TKT HAS EQUAL OR HIGHER VALUE THAN PREVIOUS
TKT
6. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
7. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE IGNORE RESIDUAL THEN
ADD-COLLECT
ENDORSEMENT BOX- HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW ENDORSEMENTS.
OR -
AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - APPLIES WITHIN TKT VALIDITY
CHANGES NOT PERMITTED/REFUND TKT-ANY REMAINING AMT WILL
APPLY TO NEW TKT.
Sep 20, 2016, 10:12 am
#4
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: London
Programs: BA Gold, Avis Presidents Club
Posts: 357
I've had this quite a lot recently, especially for WT+
There's also some interesting ones bookable via BA Holidays that aren't on Matrix, Google Flights etc. I booked one the other day for £920 LHR-SJC return, including a decent car rental (and, if my calculations are correct, yielding something like 35k Avios with the 3x promotion & holidays bonus)
There's also some interesting ones bookable via BA Holidays that aren't on Matrix, Google Flights etc. I booked one the other day for £920 LHR-SJC return, including a decent car rental (and, if my calculations are correct, yielding something like 35k Avios with the 3x promotion & holidays bonus)
Sep 20, 2016, 10:12 am
#5
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: London
Programs: Many. Too many. I came here to cut them down. I failed.
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Just for clarity, but can't help with regards to Matrix as never used it.
15. SALES RESTRICTIONS
FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16.
FROM/TO UNITED KINGDOM
RESERVATIONS MUST BE MADE ON/BEFORE 21SEP 16.
Sep 20, 2016, 12:07 pm
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Sep 21, 2016, 1:32 am
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Hi,
Its a special Economy fare with an upgrade to WTP. Rule is the same both directions
LAST TKT DTE 24SEP16 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
------------------------<NEGO>------------------------------
AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
LON
WAS BA 217 T T 16NOV 1115 QLX4S4T1/DIF4 16NOV16NOV 2P
BOS S U R F A C E
LON BA 212 T T 30NOV 1755 QLX8Y4T1/DIF4 30NOV30NOV 2P
GBP 415.00 16NOV16LON BA WAS294.03/-BOS BA LON248.29
NUC542.32END ROE0.765204
GBP 183.00YQ XT GBP 41.65UB GBP 4.20YC GBP 13.60US GBP
GBP 146.00GB 13.60US GBP 3.00XA GBP 5.40XY GBP 4.30AY
GBP 89.25XT GBP 3.50XF BOS4.50
GBP 833.25
NO CHARGEABLE ANCILLARY SERVICE
CARD PAYMENT FEES UP TO GBP 5.00 MAY APPLY
CAT35 NEGOTIATED FARES *F*
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT LONWAS BA QLX4S4T1
FCL: QLX4S4T1 TRF: 864 RULE: DIF4 BK: T*
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPX-INSTANT PURCHASE EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
FARE BY RULE
BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES
NOT APPLY
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
----------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
----------------------------------------------
-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
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>md
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
----------------------------------------------
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Its a special Economy fare with an upgrade to WTP. Rule is the same both directions
LAST TKT DTE 24SEP16 - SEE ADV PURCHASE
------------------------<NEGO>------------------------------
AL FLGT BK T DATE TIME FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
LON
WAS BA 217 T T 16NOV 1115 QLX4S4T1/DIF4 16NOV16NOV 2P
BOS S U R F A C E
LON BA 212 T T 30NOV 1755 QLX8Y4T1/DIF4 30NOV30NOV 2P
GBP 415.00 16NOV16LON BA WAS294.03/-BOS BA LON248.29
NUC542.32END ROE0.765204
GBP 183.00YQ XT GBP 41.65UB GBP 4.20YC GBP 13.60US GBP
GBP 146.00GB 13.60US GBP 3.00XA GBP 5.40XY GBP 4.30AY
GBP 89.25XT GBP 3.50XF BOS4.50
GBP 833.25
NO CHARGEABLE ANCILLARY SERVICE
CARD PAYMENT FEES UP TO GBP 5.00 MAY APPLY
CAT35 NEGOTIATED FARES *F*
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT LONWAS BA QLX4S4T1
FCL: QLX4S4T1 TRF: 864 RULE: DIF4 BK: T*
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPX-INSTANT PURCHASE EXCURSION
PE.PENALTIES
FARE BY RULE
BETWEEN UNITED KINGDOM AND AREA 1 NOTE - GENERAL RULE DOES
NOT APPLY
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
FARE COMPONENT IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
----------------------------------------------
WAIVED FOR DEATH OF A PASSENGER AND PASSENGERS
TRAVELLING COMPANIONS.
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING NON-REFUNDABLE FARES WITH
REFUNDABLE FARES
1. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT IS REFUNDED.
2. THE AMOUNT PAID ON EACH NON-REFUNDABLE FARE
COMPONENT WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
3. WHEN COMBINING FARES CHARGE THE SUM OF THE
CANCELLATION FEES OF ALL CANCELLED FARE
COMPONENTS.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND OF UNUSED TAXES FEES AND CHARGES PAID TO
THIRD PARTIES PERMITTED. ASSOCIATED CARRIER
IMPOSED CHARGES WILL NOT BE REFUNDED.
----------------------------------------------
REFUND PERMITTED WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY.
----------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
----------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
----------------------------------------------
-------CANCELLATION REPRICING CONDITIONS------
FLOWN COUPONS MUST BE REPRICED USING HISTORICAL
FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
THE FARE FOR THE JOURNEY TRAVELLED MUST BE CAPPED
AT THE TOTAL FARE AMOUNT PLUS CARRIER IMPOSED
CHARGE PAID ON THE TICKET BEING PRESENTED FOR
REFUND.
FULLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MAY BE REPRICED USING
ANY BOOKING CODE WITHIN THE SAME CABIN PROVIDED
THE NEW FARE AMOUNT IS EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
ORIGINAL.
PARTIALLY FLOWN FARE COMPONENTS MUST BE REPRICED
USING THE SAME OR HIGHER BOOKING CODE.
CHANGES
ANY TIME
CHARGE GBP 150.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
NOTE -
WITH THE EXCEPTION OF TICKETS CHANGED IN THE US
ANY PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED VIA AN EMD.
PAGE 3/ 7
>md
REFER TO SPEEDBIRDCLUB.COM OR BATRAVELTRADE.COM
AND YOUR GDS FOR INSTRUCTIONS.
----------------------------------------------
CHARGE APPLIES PER TRANSACTION - PER PERSON FOR
ALL PASSENGER TYPES.
INFANTS WITHOUT A SEAT - NO CHARGE.
--------------------------------------------------
A CHANGE IS A DATE/FLIGHT/ROUTING/BOOKING CODE
CHANGE. NEW RESERVATION AND REISSUE/REVALIDATION
MUST BE MADE ON THE SAME DAY.
--------------------------------------------------
REISSUE MUST BE MADE THE SAME DAY AS CHANGE OF
RESERVATION BUT NO LATER THAN SCHEDULED DEPARTURE
TIME OF FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
OTHERWISE THE TICKET WILL ONLY BE VALID FOR
REFUND IF APPLICABLE.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN MORE THAN ONE FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE
HIGHEST PENALTY OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
WITHIN THE JOURNEY APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
--- REPRICING CONDITIONS ---
HIGHER PREMIUM ECONOMY FARES MAY BE USED FOR
REPRICING CHANGED AND UNCHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY AT TIME OF CHANGE.
A. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THE FIRST
FARE COMPONENT IS CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING CURRENT FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
B. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN CHANGES ARE
TO BOOKING CODE ONLY IN THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT
AND RESULT IN A HIGHER FARE THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED -
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
C. BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY WHEN THERE ARE NO
CHANGES TO THE FIRST FARE COMPONENT BUT OTHER
FARE COMPONENTS ARE CHANGED THE ITINERARY MUST BE
RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE
PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE OR USING CURRENT FARES IN
EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED-
WHICHEVER IS LOWER.
D. AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY THE ITINERARY MUST
BE RE-PRICED USING HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON
THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE.
--------------------------------------------------
1. IF SAME BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW TICKET MAY
BE LOWER - EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND MUST
COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE BEING
APPLIED.
2. IF A DIFFERENT BOOKING CLASS IS USED NEW
TICKET MAY BE EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN PREVIOUS AND
MUST COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF THE NEW FARE
BEING APPLIED.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE ITINERARY RESULTS IN A HIGHER FARE THE
DIFFERENCE WILL BE COLLECTED. ANY APPLICABLE
CHANGE FEE STILL APPLIES.
--------------------------------------------------
WHEN THE NEW ITINERARY RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE
THE CHANGE FEE APPLIES AND NO CREDIT OF THE
RESIDUAL AMOUNT WILL BE MADE.
--------------------------------------------------
ANY NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT FROM A PREVIOUS TICKET
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE FOLLOWING A CHANGE.
--------------------------------------------------
NO-SHOWS FOR A FLIGHT ARE CONSIDERED A
CANCELLATION AFTER DEPARTURE AND CHANGES ARE NOT
PERMITTED.
--------------------------------------------------
TICKET IS NOT TRANSFERABLE TO ANOTHER PERSON.
Sep 21, 2016, 3:56 am
#11
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Dual Inventory Fare.
I think that the way they work is like this: Normally, you would expect a T class (WT+) fare to have a fare basis code starting with the letter T, for example TLX8S4C1; normally, the first letter of the fare basis indicates the booking class into which the fare must book (at least on the main part of the journey).
However, KARFA quoted a fare basis QLX4S4T1/DIF4. If you were to see a fare basis of QLX4S4T1 on its own, you'd expect it to be a cheap economy fare booking into Q class (the second lowest booking class) - and if you look at a fare listing for your route (eg on ExpertFlyer) you should be able to see that fare listed.
However, QLX4S4T1/DIF4 is a fare that books into T class and therefore gets you seated in WT+. But it should only be valid if both Q class and T class seats are available on the flight - hence "Dual Inventory". If Q class is sold out on your flight, then it does not help if the flight is T9. To book in T class, you'd then have to pay a different (and higher) fare. For example, if the flight is T9 N9 Q0, you could book in T class using NLX4S4T1/DIF4 but not QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
I think that the way they work is like this: Normally, you would expect a T class (WT+) fare to have a fare basis code starting with the letter T, for example TLX8S4C1; normally, the first letter of the fare basis indicates the booking class into which the fare must book (at least on the main part of the journey).
However, KARFA quoted a fare basis QLX4S4T1/DIF4. If you were to see a fare basis of QLX4S4T1 on its own, you'd expect it to be a cheap economy fare booking into Q class (the second lowest booking class) - and if you look at a fare listing for your route (eg on ExpertFlyer) you should be able to see that fare listed.
However, QLX4S4T1/DIF4 is a fare that books into T class and therefore gets you seated in WT+. But it should only be valid if both Q class and T class seats are available on the flight - hence "Dual Inventory". If Q class is sold out on your flight, then it does not help if the flight is T9. To book in T class, you'd then have to pay a different (and higher) fare. For example, if the flight is T9 N9 Q0, you could book in T class using NLX4S4T1/DIF4 but not QLX4S4T1/DIF4.
Sep 21, 2016, 3:58 am
#12
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Sep 21, 2016, 4:16 am
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I am fine, we are a Specialist Partner (Marine and Groups) for BA and had communications regarding selling them. Basically fares are £200 each way to upgrade I believe
Sep 21, 2016, 4:18 am
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Sep 21, 2016, 4:57 am
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