BA September Enhancements
#31
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Ahhh, all mainstream papers. Thank goodness NOTW is not there anymore, or there may be people freaking out on a BA flight to read that Lancaster Bomber was found on the dark side of the moon
I remember Ryanair had "READ THE SUN" emblazoned on the side of their hull for a while.
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Anyway, I thought the newspapers were supplied FoC and that's why the selection at the gate is rather odd?
I remember Ryanair had "READ THE SUN" emblazoned on the side of their hull for a while.
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Anyway, I thought the newspapers were supplied FoC and that's why the selection at the gate is rather odd?
Back on topic, my understanding that the newspapers were provided free? I wouldn't like to see that enhanced away.
#32
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Ah that's a blast from the past the News of the World! I can't remember such a story re a Lancaster bomber in the NOTW and think you may be referring to the Sunday Sport! What were you reading back then LTN Phobia?
I recall seeing the front page feature or something about the Lancaster Bomber business and I went "Eh?" and picked up one of the broadsheets, as I recall. And also recall seeing a front page picture of this man with lots of nails growing out of his head. What was that about?! I sort of took it as weird kind of humour.
Back to the subject...
I think tabloid edition of broadsheets should be provided for aeroplanes - they don't take up as much space and don't intrude into your space much.
#33
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That particular accolade actually goes to The Sun.
I take your point with BA having a duty to provide a wider balance of papers - so stock the Telegraph for the right wingers and the Guardian for the lefties. I might not agree with much of the Telegraph's reportage but it is at least done to a high standard and does not stoop to sensationalism or divisive racial rhetoric.
That all said, this whole discussion is probably moot as BA will no doubt stop providing anything at all...
I take your point with BA having a duty to provide a wider balance of papers - so stock the Telegraph for the right wingers and the Guardian for the lefties. I might not agree with much of the Telegraph's reportage but it is at least done to a high standard and does not stoop to sensationalism or divisive racial rhetoric.
That all said, this whole discussion is probably moot as BA will no doubt stop providing anything at all...
At this rate you're right though, heavy cuts everywhere and 'performance' and 'efficiency' seems to be the norm nowadays in many sectors and not just including aviation. P and E are not a bad thing but there has to be a balance too with the customer at mind. I feel for the crew who are at the front end of this though and they can only work with the tools/food etc they are given.
#34
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Ah, that's right, it was Sunday Sport! I got the two bizarre ones mixed up. Now could Sunday Sport be classified as 'mainstream', I wonder That's also no more, isn't it.
I recall seeing the front page feature or something about the Lancaster Bomber business and I went "Eh?" and picked up one of the broadsheets, as I recall. And also recall seeing a front page picture of this man with lots of nails growing out of his head. What was that about?! I sort of took it as weird kind of humour.
Back to the subject...
I think tabloid edition of broadsheets should be provided for aeroplanes - they don't take up as much space and don't intrude into your space much.
I recall seeing the front page feature or something about the Lancaster Bomber business and I went "Eh?" and picked up one of the broadsheets, as I recall. And also recall seeing a front page picture of this man with lots of nails growing out of his head. What was that about?! I sort of took it as weird kind of humour.
Back to the subject...
I think tabloid edition of broadsheets should be provided for aeroplanes - they don't take up as much space and don't intrude into your space much.
It was a weird paper in ways and apparently Elvis is still alive somewhere!!
Leave the papers the way they are and I can't see a change there if there is no cost (although I have no knowledge of such things)
#35
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Thanks for the welcome and sorry for the use of the 'e' swear word.
Lurked for along time, but never felt the need to post - until I got this piece of gossip.
#36
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Good, annoys me when someone next to me weechs out a paper and shoves the front/back page in my face. Waste of trees (or loo roll if recycled). Your phone can access pretty much the entire catalogue of human knowledge, including today's news (papers usually being yesterday's news...). Cleaner fingers too! Beeb app for news (or ft for ba issues) on ground, kindle or whatever for a book in the air. Smashing. Or am i just being unusally modern?! I honestly cannot remember the last time i read a paper.
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Ahhh, all mainstream papers. Thank goodness NOTW is not there anymore, or there may be people freaking out on a BA flight to read that Lancaster Bomber was found on the dark side of the moon
I remember Ryanair had "READ THE SUN" emblazoned on the side of their hull for a while.
=============
Anyway, I thought the newspapers were supplied FoC and that's why the selection at the gate is rather odd?
I remember Ryanair had "READ THE SUN" emblazoned on the side of their hull for a while.
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Anyway, I thought the newspapers were supplied FoC and that's why the selection at the gate is rather odd?
#38
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Getting mildly back on topic... as much as I wouldn't like to see newspapers go (one of the few reasons I just about still need two hands to count the reasons to fly BA over their cheaper, more reliable and more customer focused competitors) you can see why this might make sense to the lunatics running the asylum.
Working on an assumed average weight per newspaper of: 200g
Assume that they stock an average of 85 newspapers per short haul flight (some passengers take two)
Only 20 passengers would buy and carry a newspaper on board if they weren't free
Assuming newspapers are flown in from Heathrow/Gatwick/City, each inbound flights from a European outstation therefore have to carry: [(85 X 2) - 20] X 0.20 = 30 kgs of extra 'cargo'
Assuming 250 inbound flights from Europe to London per day, that equates to 2,737,500kg of newspapers transported.
Not sure how valid each are those assumptions are but I'd imagine it would still be a scarily large number (with a high associated carbon footprint).
Could anyone fill in the gaps with the opportunity cost (foregone cargo) or actual cost (fuel burn) of the 15kg per one way European flight?
Working on an assumed average weight per newspaper of: 200g
Assume that they stock an average of 85 newspapers per short haul flight (some passengers take two)
Only 20 passengers would buy and carry a newspaper on board if they weren't free
Assuming newspapers are flown in from Heathrow/Gatwick/City, each inbound flights from a European outstation therefore have to carry: [(85 X 2) - 20] X 0.20 = 30 kgs of extra 'cargo'
Assuming 250 inbound flights from Europe to London per day, that equates to 2,737,500kg of newspapers transported.
Not sure how valid each are those assumptions are but I'd imagine it would still be a scarily large number (with a high associated carbon footprint).
Could anyone fill in the gaps with the opportunity cost (foregone cargo) or actual cost (fuel burn) of the 15kg per one way European flight?
#41
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That's one of them.
I recall seeing a couple of variations of the same theme. I probably got the "Read" bit wrong but as you've shown, "the Sun" bit was definitely there because I remember talking about it with some people as an example of 'awful airline liveries'.
It's probably contributed to my never yet having set foot on Ryanair aircraft.
I recall seeing a couple of variations of the same theme. I probably got the "Read" bit wrong but as you've shown, "the Sun" bit was definitely there because I remember talking about it with some people as an example of 'awful airline liveries'.
It's probably contributed to my never yet having set foot on Ryanair aircraft.
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#45
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I have a couple of publishing clients and this certainly used to be the case, but these fees (known as "placement charges") are long gone for most prestigious publications, especially for airlines and other high value locations. They are, however, still provided free of charge.