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BA and CX have jointly blocked close in booking between HKG and Taiwan and parts of China with a minimum of 5 days before departure.
It is not sure that when this limit will be lifted and people are advised to phone up to book their flights if it is short to departure (even though it may not work)
UPDATES:
- 12/07/2016 The block has been lifted for flights to and from Taiwan.
- 28/10/2016 Looks like there is a 7 days block for flights between HKG and PEK, PVG, XIY (Xi'an), CKG (Chongqing). There may also be a 5 days block on TPE again...
- 28/10/2016 Flights to CTU and WUH still face the 7 days block afaik
- 30/11/2016 Even for TPE there is a 7 days block
- 13/12/2016 Basically everything is blocked, including TYO, LHR and so on.
- 28/02/2017 RIP redemptions to MAINLAND CHINA T-5
- 11/03/2017 Blocked all CX/KA online & phone redemptions to/from All Mainland China, TPE, Malaysia & Singapore flights 9 days from departure !
- 14/03/2017 Ok, folks. CX is blocking ON MOST award spaces for BAEC members (whether online or phone) up to 9 days prior to departure now.
- 15/03/2017 CX (or rather BA) is blocking CX/KA redemptions blocking ON MOST award spaces between HKG and USA, EU, Japan, Taiwan flights for BAEC members (whether online or phone) up to 22 days prior to departure! Each destination is inconsistent with availability. Some are not available less than 7 days, some as in the case of Japan is 22 days prior to departure.
- 11/08/2017 All CX/KA redemptions are blocked online when close to departure. While most can be booked by phone, Chinese routes may still be blocked when close to departure.
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Unfortunately as a result of significant levels of fraudulent activity CX have removed access to redemption availability -5 days to departure until further notice. (BA Executive Club)
UPDATES:
- 12/07/2016 The block has been lifted for flights to and from Taiwan.
- 28/10/2016 Looks like there is a 7 days block for flights between HKG and PEK, PVG, XIY (Xi'an), CKG (Chongqing). There may also be a 5 days block on TPE again...
- 28/10/2016 Flights to CTU and WUH still face the 7 days block afaik
- 30/11/2016 Even for TPE there is a 7 days block
- 13/12/2016 Basically everything is blocked, including TYO, LHR and so on.
- 28/02/2017 RIP redemptions to MAINLAND CHINA T-5
- 11/03/2017 Blocked all CX/KA online & phone redemptions to/from All Mainland China, TPE, Malaysia & Singapore flights 9 days from departure !
- 14/03/2017 Ok, folks. CX is blocking ON MOST award spaces for BAEC members (whether online or phone) up to 9 days prior to departure now.
- 15/03/2017 CX (or rather BA) is blocking CX/KA redemptions blocking ON MOST award spaces between HKG and USA, EU, Japan, Taiwan flights for BAEC members (whether online or phone) up to 22 days prior to departure! Each destination is inconsistent with availability. Some are not available less than 7 days, some as in the case of Japan is 22 days prior to departure.
- 11/08/2017 All CX/KA redemptions are blocked online when close to departure. While most can be booked by phone, Chinese routes may still be blocked when close to departure.
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CX blocking award availability when it's close to departure?
#196
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For example, BKK-HKG-TPE has availability but BKK-HKG or HKG-TPE don't have availability when searched as separate segments.
#197
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Is there a magic time prior to departure when they release to partners? Looking to travel HKG-TYO on 3rd Feb. Tons of saver seats using Asia Miles, but zilch on BA, even when calling their HK call center (which seems to route to India now??).
#200
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However the OP is asking about the block on seeing reward availability on ba.com for departures within a week which predates that reduction and is a completely separate issue.
#201
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i agreed, it’s certainly true reward availability has been significantly reduced over the last year.
However the OP is asking about the block on seeing reward availability on ba.com for departures within a week which predates that reduction and is a completely separate issue.
However the OP is asking about the block on seeing reward availability on ba.com for departures within a week which predates that reduction and is a completely separate issue.
#202
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Yes the inside seven day online BA website block to online booking seems to have resumed, after briefly disappearing around April this year.
Calling BA will elicit any availability. But as in the other threadf on CX Avios availibility, and as alluded to in 199 above, CX ex HKG to Asian destinations other than Greater China, and Japan (haven't checked Vietnam) seems to be non existent in any cabin for Avios bookings. This despite inbound CX arrivals being down 46% in November and 9's across all fare classes even over Chinese New Year to holiday destinations.
Calling BA will elicit any availability. But as in the other threadf on CX Avios availibility, and as alluded to in 199 above, CX ex HKG to Asian destinations other than Greater China, and Japan (haven't checked Vietnam) seems to be non existent in any cabin for Avios bookings. This despite inbound CX arrivals being down 46% in November and 9's across all fare classes even over Chinese New Year to holiday destinations.
#204
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Yes, there are challenges to get availability close in to departure, married segments issues etc, but to say there is no hope of redeeming Avios for CX awards at all is rather unrepresentative.
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Also, why on earth is CX not giving BA any seats for HKG-BKK, even in May 2020?
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I believe that 1) relations between CX and BA are sour, especially after the deals with CZ, and 2) BA is paying a very little amount of money as intra-Asia awards are very cheap in terms of avios.
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"Very difficult" would be more accurate than "no hope."
One issue is that CX has cut back on BKK flights, which is making it more difficult to book that route paid, let alone using Avios.
One issue is that CX has cut back on BKK flights, which is making it more difficult to book that route paid, let alone using Avios.
#209
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Exactly - let's be factual rather than disingenuous ^
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Then let's that avios availability for intra-Asia from/to HKG has become extremely limited. This has nothing to do with the 6-day visibility rule. Hope is very, very limited. CX do open availability at some random periods, but very few.
I believe that 1) relations between CX and BA are sour, especially after the deals with CZ, and 2) BA is paying a very little amount of money as intra-Asia awards are very cheap in terms of avios.
I believe that 1) relations between CX and BA are sour, especially after the deals with CZ, and 2) BA is paying a very little amount of money as intra-Asia awards are very cheap in terms of avios.