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2016 POUG rate tracker

Please add your own successful results to the follow list including the month/year when the POUG was offered to you.

UPDATED TO: Post #259

POUGs are offered via BA.com and the App Manage My Booking via a distinctive banner (example from MMB below). You cannot get a POUG by telephoning, however the service centres can complete a POUG which falls over mid transaction. They are offered on cash and Avios redemptions but typically not on complex routings, BA Holidays or travel agency bookings until OLCI stage. POUGs on Avios redemptions won't get you additional TPs/Avios, but they will on revenue tickets.

Short haul routes from LON to/from Europe
A price in pounds indicates a ticket issued from London, other currencies indicate prices for tickets issued overseas (e.g. singles or returns originating from CDG priced in Euros). Multiple prices indicate a range of fares are on offer. Note that LCY prices currently seem to be on a different basis to LGW and LHR (cheaper, in other words).

ACE -
AGP – £89 (Jan 2016, ex LCY), £79 (Feb 2016, LCY)
AMS - £109 (LHR Dec 2015 - both ways for Jan 2016), £79 from LGW (Jan 2016, Jul 2016), £69 for LCY (Jan 2016, Mar 2016), £109 (Mar 2016) ex LHR
AMS - £79 (Jan 2015, Feb 2016) ex LGW - return also offered
ANE - £69 (Mar 2016) ex LCY
ARN - £109 (Feb 2016), £109 (Aug 2016), £100 (Aug 2016), SEK 1035 / £89 (Dec 2016)
ATH - £109 / €300 to LHR (Nov 2015), £179 (Feb 2016, May 2016)
BCN – €140 to LHR (Dec 2015), €109 from LGW (Feb 2016), £120 from LHR (Aug 2016), £129 from LHR (Dec 2016)
BGO - £79 (Dec 2015)
BOD -
BRI -
BRU - £129 (Jan 2016), €130 (Dec 2016)
BSL - CHF 190 (Sep 2015, Feb 2016)
BUD - £149 both ways (Jan 2016)
CDG - £89 (Dec 2015), €115 for CDG-LHR (Sep 2016)
CHQ - £245 (Dec 2016 for Sept 2017)
CMF -
CPH - £129 (LHR, Jan 2016), £110 (LHR, Nov 2016, avios booking)
CTA -
DBV - £89 LGW (Nov 2015)
DUB – €119 (to LHR, Dec 2015), £119 each way (Feb'16 for July '16), £119 (Feb for Nov 16) £119 each way (Mar 2016) £110 (dropped from £119 Jul 16)
DUS - £129 (Mar 2016, April 2016) £90 DUS-LHR (Aug 2016)
FCO - €109 (to LGW, Jan 2016) / £199 (to/from LHR, Mar 2016)
FRA - £109 (Nov 2015) / €145 (to LHR, Dec 2015) / €79 (to LCY, Jul 2016) / £50 (from LHR, Aug 2016)
GIB - £149 (May 2016)
GOT – SEK 990/GBP 76 (Oct 2015)
GVA - £129 (Jan 2016) £125 (Offered Sept'16 for Apr'17)
HAJ - £90 (Jan 2017) £99 HAJ-LHR (Jan 2017)
HAM - £79 both ways (Sep 15 from HBO) £110 both ways (April 2016)
HEL – €160 both ways (Mar 2016)
IBZ - £69 both ways (June 2016)
INN –
IST - £150 (May 2015, IST-LHR) £179 (Feb 2016, LHR-IST and Dec 2016, IST-LHR)
JER - £79 (Nov 2015)
KBP - £124 (Feb 2016)
KEF - £240 (Nov 2016)
LCA – £176. LCA-LHR (APR 2016)
LED - £189 (Oct 2015)
LIN – £189 (Nov 2015, Feb 2016)
LIS – £145 (Jul 2015 & Jan 2016) £159 (Jul 2016; Jan 2016 from HBO)
LPA -
LUX - £139 for LUX-LHR (Jan 2016 from HBO), £105 for LHR-LUX and £139 for LUX-LHR (Nov 2016)
LYS - £120 LHR-LYS (Dec 2016)
MAD - €89 MAD-LCY (Feb 2016), £79 LCY-MAD (Jan 2016). £79 MAD-LHR (Feb 2016) £79 each way (May 2016)
MAH -
MLA - €119 (Oct 2015)
MUC - £109 (Sep 2015 from HBO, also for Aug 2016, semi flex fare)
MJV - £70 (Nov 2016 from HBO, for Mar 17)
MRS - £110 (Nov 2016 from HBO Weekend Daytrip), £109 (Nov 2016 from MRS-LHR from HBO, Weekend Daytrip ex LHR)
MXP - £189 (Jun, Jul 2016, from Sunday Daytrip)
NCE - €145 (Jan 2016), €109 (Feb 2016, LGW), £135 (July 2016)
ORY - €115 (Jan 2016), £89 (Feb 2016), €115 (March 2016) £82 (October 2016)
OSL - £159 (Dec 2015, Apr 2016), NOK 1175/£95 (Feb 2016)
OTP - £239 (Jan 2017)
PFO - £119 (Sep 2015)
PMI - €205 (Oct 2015, Mar 2016, LHR) €79 (Jul 16, to LCY, from HBO), £69, Jan 17 to LCY from HBO)
PRG - £149 (Dec 2015)
PSA - £89 (Oct 2015)
RTM -
SOF - £13 (Aug 2016)
SVG - £99 / NOK 720 (Dec 2015),
SZG -
TIA –
TXL – £100 (Aug 2016, Sep 2016, Dec 2016) / £120 (To LHR, Aug 2016) / £100 (Sep 2016 / £129 (to LHR, Sep 2016)
UIP -
VCE - €109 (to LGW, Feb 2016)
VIE – £179 (Feb 2016), £159 (Apr 2016)
VRN - €109 (Feb 2016 & Mar 2016)
WAW - £139 (Oct 2015) / 475 PLN (£79) (Oct 2015)
ZAG - €130 ZAG-LHR Nov 2015
ZRH – £119 (Jan, Apr 2016) / £69 (from LCY Jan 2016) £69 (From LCY April 2016) both ways

Long haul routes from LON to North America
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

AUS - WTP $229 (Nov 2015), CW £473 (Feb 2015)
BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), CW $765 (Mar 2016)
DFW - CW $850 (Feb 2016)
EWR - WTP $256 (Jan 2016) see also JFK
JFK – WTP £147 (Jan and Apr 2015), WTP £189 (Mar 2016) see also EWR
IAD – WTP $288 (Jan 2015)
LAS – WTP £198 (Aug 2015)
LAX - CW £540 (Feb 2015)
MEX - CW £422 (Apr 2016)
MIA - WTP £198 (Feb 2016)
ORD - CW £473 (Nov 2015)
PHL - CW $750 (Feb 2016), CW £525 (Feb 2016)
SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015), CW £480 (Jan 2016) CW $760/$855/$950 (all offered Apr 2016), CW $775 (Dec 2016, down from $855 last week)
YUL – CW £405 (Jan 2015)
YYZ - CW GBP 350 (Jun 2015) WT+ £168 (Aug 2016)

Long haul routes from LON to South America and the Caribbean

(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

BGI -WTP £180 (Oct 2016)

Long haul routes from LON to Asia
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

BKK - WTP £229 / £240 (Aug 2016), CW £549 (Aug 2016)
BOM –WTP £168 (Dec 2015)
HKG - WTP £207 (Jan 2015), CW £480 (Apr 2016)
ICN - WTP £152 (Sep 2016)
KUL - F £649 (Feb 2016)
NRT - WTP £207 (Apr 2015)
PEK - WTP £165 (Apr 2016)
PVG – WTP £165 (Mar 2016), CW £440 (Jan 2015)
SIN - CW £440 (Jan 2016)

Long haul routes from LON to Australia and Oceania
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

LHR-SYD – WTP £159 (Apr 2015)

Long haul routes from LON to Africa and Middle East
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

CPT – WTP £92 (April 2016)
DXB – WTP £150 (Jan 2015) WT+ £170 (Feb 2017) WT+ £136 (Nov 16)
DXB – CW £499 (Feb 2015) CW £450 (Nov 16)
JNB - WTP £229 (Feb 2016)
KWI – WTP £150 (Jan 2015)
RAK - CE £99 (Dec 2015)
TLV - WTP £153 (Apr 2015)
TLV - WTP $270 (Jun 2016)
TLV - CW £120 (Sept 2015)

Long haul routes to LON
(price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):

BGI - WTP £199 (Oct 2016)
BOS - WTP $189 (Apr 2015), F $850 then $763 (Nov 2015), CW $680 (Mar 2016)
BOM - CW £499 (July 2016)
DME - WTP £145 (Nov 2015, Apr 2016)
DXB – CW £499 (Jan 2015) WT to WT+ £170 (Feb 2017) (Redemption)
DXB – CW £299 (Nov 2015)
EWR - CW £473 (Sep 2016) see also JFK
GIG – F £447 (Jan 2015), CW £399 (Aug 2016)
HKG – WTP £161 (Jan 2015)
HKG - CW £540 (Mar 2015)
HKG - CW £599 (Mar 2015 for travel in April, also offered for May 2016)
IAD - WTP £185 (Apr 2015), WTP $249 (Jan 2016), WTP £120 (April 2016), CW $760 (Sept 2016)
JFK – WTP £168 (Jan 2015), F £508 (Dec 2015), F $999 (Jan 2016) see also EWR
JNB - CW £456 (Feb 2016), CW £510 (Nov 2016)
LAX - CW £599 (Apr 2016)
MCO - WTP £170 (Mar 2016)
MEX - CW £447 (Apr 2016)
MIA - WTP £176 (Nov 2015)
ORD - WTP £189 (Feb 2016), CW GBP 473 (Nov 2015) increased to GBP 525 in 4 hours.
PEK - WTP £198 (Apr 2016), CW GBP 549 (Aug 2015)
SEA - WT GBP 207 (Feb 2016)
SFO – WTP $310 (Nov 2015)
SFO – CW £599 (Jan 2016)
SFO - F USD$950, then $875 (Feb 2016)
SFO - F USD$855 (Nov 2016)
SIN – CW £549 (Mar 2015, Feb 2016)
SIN – WTP £198 (Jun 2015)
SIN – WTP SGD250/£138 (Sep 2016)
SYD – CW £500 (Jan 2015)
TLV - WTP $240 (Jun 2016)
YUL - WTP £180 (Jun 2016)
YYC - WTP £189 (Aug 2016)
YYZ - CW GBP 450 (Jun 2015)
YYZ – CW C$723 (Nov 2015)
YYZ - WTP GBP 189 (Jun 2015) (July 2016)
YVR - F CAD 900 (Mar 2016)

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Feb 10, 2016, 2:28 am

#91

Vinotraveller

Join Date: Dec 2013

Location: Glasgow

Programs: BAEC Silver, Sixt Platinum, HHons Diamond

Posts: 927

VRN - LGW 109Euro offered two days after booking. Flights in April.

Feb 10, 2016, 2:57 am

#92

Oaxaca

Join Date: Dec 2014

Location: UK

Programs: BA, U2+, SK, AF/KL, IHG, Hilton, others gathering dust...

Posts: 2,552

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

New here.

First POUG (I think?) offered on LHR-ARN-LHR for £109 each way. This is on a HBO fare.

I credit to AA.

Does BA reissue the ticket with the correct code for business class?

Seems like an okay deal for a 2.5hr flight?

They wanted like £600 more during the round-trip booking for FC or whatever BA calls that cabin.

There wasn't a banner or notice to upgrade. I clicked on the "upgrade your booking" link on the MMB.

Is this a POUG?

If I switched my earning to BA for this one flight how many Avios would this net me if I upgraded? Does it go to the R/I category of earning?

That price sounds a lot like a POUG, and unless your underlying original fare was quite high (some sort of flexible economy, HBO does not impact this), a "normal" upgrade for difference in fare would be higher, as you saw at time of booking.

There may not have been a banner, though it does rotate with other offers at the top of MMB, so also possible you didn't see it. They also put a button at the side for POUGs, so could that be what you clicked? "Normal" upgrades tend to say "upgrade my class of fare with money/Avios".

Anyhow, if it is a POUG (when you click through it will probably say something like "limited time offer"), and you credit to BA, it should earn you the Avios and TPs for an R/I fare (though the ticketed fare class will probably be U). The actual amount of Avios earned will vary depending on your BA status (from 1335 if Blue up to 2225 if Gold, per sector on LHR-ARN).

If you take it, they will reissue the ticket with a new ticket number, though the PNR remains the same. Assuming you booked the original flight online with BA directly, you'll get an email with subject starting "BA changed e-ticket receipt" and including PNR, route and date. It's usually quite efficient, if done online you should get the new e-ticket within 15-20 mins of getting it confirmed online (new booking details should be immediate in MMB).

Feb 10, 2016, 6:24 am

#93

Abhinavt

Join Date: May 2014

Posts: 163

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

Not at all.

First time on BA.

I flew WTP PHX-LHR-JNB in WTP. The 747 sucks. I need a wall to sleep on and there's a huge gap. The A380 on the top deck had plenty of room. I had bulkhead seats on both.

But I AUP'd JNB-LHR and used Avios to UG to J on LHR-PHX today.

I didn't really like the seat/lack of space in CW, to be honest--and I had 62A on the upper deck of the 747. I prefer DL/KL/AF's J much better but I am flying AA/BA for 2016 out of boredom.

So I hope to be able to contribute to this forum.

Next MR is back to JNB (3-day Safari/hot air balloon ride over the nature park) on Saturday.

. Doing Y/Y outbound and PE/J on the return.

Thanks, on the 380 as well on the bulkhead seat so makes me feel better, as BA seems very stingy on the Avios upgrades on this route even on low season.
Am going to Kruger as well, will PM for you advise on itinerary.

Feb 10, 2016, 6:34 am

#94

Nyuni

Join Date: Feb 2016

Location: Baltimore, MD, USA

Programs: BAEC Silver

Posts: 19

Long time lurker to the BAEC forums, new poster, so can't edit the Wiki yet... Just got the following POUG over the weekend from PHL to LHR:

PHL - CW $750 Feb 2016

Feb 10, 2016, 2:12 pm

#95

corporate-wage-slave

Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club

Original Poster

Join Date: Feb 2010

Programs: BA Lifetime Gold; Flying Blue Life Platinum; LH Sen.; Hilton Diamond; Kemal Kebabs Prized Customer

Posts: 63,808

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nyuni

Long time lurker to the BAEC forums,

Many thanks for both the useful snippet, and for emerging from lurker-life. I hope that we will see plenty more of you here. Welcome to Flyertalk Nyuni, and welcome in particular to the BA board.

Feb 10, 2016, 9:52 pm

#96

SecondGo

Join Date: Jan 2016

Location: Gibraltar

Programs: BA Gold, HHonors Diamond

Posts: 174

SIN-LHR CW £549 (Feb 2016) No change from Mar 2015 I see

Feb 11, 2016, 11:59 am

#97

355F1

Join Date: Feb 2013

Location: PHX

Programs: AA EXP, IHG Diamond, IC Amb

Posts: 5,510

Just wanted to throw this update here.

Flew the following routes last weekend in PAID W, BA ticket stock, crediting to AA.

PHX-LHR (flew in W): Received the correct W-based AA miles
LHR-JNB (flew in W): Received the correct W-based AA miles
JNB-LHR (paid at JNB to UG to J): Received the 25% Class of Service bonus associated with flying in paid J
LHR-PHX (upgraded to J w/Avios a month before departure): Receive the correct W-based AA miles.

So it appears that even with airport upgrades the ticket is reissued and shown to AA's system as the cabin to which you have upgraded. ^^

I can only assume that it will be the same for POUG's, too.

Last edited by 355F1; Feb 11, 2016 at 12:29 pm

Feb 11, 2016, 12:07 pm

#98

esledo

Join Date: Nov 2012

Location: HEL

Programs: LH SEN

Posts: 517

Quote:

Originally Posted by 355F1

So it appears that even with airport upgrades the ticket is reissued and shown to AA's system as the cabin to which you have upgraded. ^^

I can only assume that it will be the same for POUG's, too.

In case of AUP ticket is not reissued but instead an EMD is generated to the PNR. I guess BA's IT is able to pick-up this EMD and credit correctly when posting points also to other FF schemes.

In case of POUG ticket is indeed reissued.

Feb 11, 2016, 1:39 pm

#99

Paros_fan

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: VA Platinum

Posts: 286

Just been offered upgrade on ATH - LHR on 18 Feb for £179 per person. It is a 100% Avios booking.
Not only is it expensive in my opinion but given I wouldn't get any miles or tier points, it definitely doesn't seem worth it.

Feb 11, 2016, 2:47 pm

#100

guesswho2000

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: VIC, Australia

Programs: QF WP, SQ & VA Gold, IHG Spire AMB, HH Diamond + BA, AA, CX

Posts: 126

NOK1175 OSL-LHR ET to CE. Tempted as I'll get 40 TP instead of 5!

Feb 11, 2016, 5:28 pm

#101

Dicksbits

Join Date: Jul 2014

Location: Buckinghamshire

Programs: BAEC Gold Guest List, Hilton Honours Diamond, Accor Gold

Posts: 2,303

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paros_fan

I wouldn't bother. My brother got stranded in Athens a few weeks ago when his Ethiopian 777 bound for Addis gave up the ghost somewhere over the Adriatic and was diverted. He paid a crazy £543 to get back to LHR in Club Europe. Said there was little legroom (2F) for his 6ft frame and the breakfast offering was awful.