Another one joins the rank of GGL/CCR .. with a whole of 4 BA flights
#16
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If able to get the equivalent status on AA ( EP ) , lounge access membership can be purchased at $350 per year ( plus $50 joining ) which could be easily offset by lack of fares-disguied-as-taxes/charges on awards
#17
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No partner cards on AA I think, which is something I really value for making my parents' trips across the pond a little nicer (seat selection, fast track and EDI lounge). My travel plans for 2016 will include Asia so I'm contemplating a change. Just booked JFK-HKG-NRT-JFK for more or less the same TP as a recent trip to Seattle (via BOS and PHX).
#18
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Well yeah, but is lounge access all that important to miss out on other benefits?
That's what you essentially get with BA as a Gold.
I find getting upgrades much more important than lounge access.
If I can spend economy money but fly in premium cabins more often than not, I can't see how getting lounge access can balance the substantial cost savings that offers.
In case of connections, yes lounge it's better than not having access but for direct flights I can't be bothered turning hours in advance to "enjoy" the lounge. I would rather be more comfortable in the air.
That's what you essentially get with BA as a Gold.
I find getting upgrades much more important than lounge access.
If I can spend economy money but fly in premium cabins more often than not, I can't see how getting lounge access can balance the substantial cost savings that offers.
In case of connections, yes lounge it's better than not having access but for direct flights I can't be bothered turning hours in advance to "enjoy" the lounge. I would rather be more comfortable in the air.
#19
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Well it depends on the pattern of your travel. An upgrade on a European flight on BA is worth very little, whereas lounge access is a huge benefit to me. If there was a magic card that upgraded me from ET to CE on the aircraft, I would not swap that for my current silver card benefits...
#20
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Well it depends on the pattern of your travel. An upgrade on a European flight on BA is worth very little, whereas lounge access is a huge benefit to me. If there was a magic card that upgraded me from ET to CE on the aircraft, I would not swap that for my current silver card benefits...
If you are travelling anywhere else you would anyway get that with equivalent OW status.
Regardless in terms of "value" the lounge access is hardly a huge benefit. Based on the price paid to access 3rd party lounges I would say it is worth about £40 per return flight. You anyway have to subsidize that by not booking an HBO fare, so value is reduced to more like £10-15.
That's not taking into account the fact that more often than not you can find cheaper flights with Ryanair, Easyjet etc and often at more convenient times.
The "value" of an upgrade to CE is substantially higher, as evident by the prices BA is charging for it.
I would take the 8 SWUs and unlimited domestic upgrades over lounge access.
Also the OP is taking the minimum of BA flights, so I somehow doubt he flies within Europe that often on One World carriers.
#21
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Value wise , I would rate the domestic lounge acces at $350 a year max given that is what AA charges for AC membership - plus of course can theoretically use the lounge even if travelling with another carrier
Personally I would rate 8 x systemwide upgrades as worth more than $350 , but others might not
Personally I would rate 8 x systemwide upgrades as worth more than $350 , but others might not
#22
Join Date: Apr 2003
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I am BAEC Gold but (since retirement) mostly fly domestically in the US. I am still crediting my flights to BA to remain Gold, though--I do want the lounge access, and somehow it seems easier to me to earn Gold each year on BA than an equivalent premium status on AA. I should get to LTG in a couple of years, after which I can start crediting to AA.
To me the requirement of 4 BA flights is something of a game to be played. For my 2016 membership year it will be done via flights between Grenada, St. Lucia, and Trinidad
To me the requirement of 4 BA flights is something of a game to be played. For my 2016 membership year it will be done via flights between Grenada, St. Lucia, and Trinidad
#23
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Most of my flying this year was on AA/US, all in First. I calculated it once that I would not be able to get AA EP, yet BA Gold was very easy. And the particular pattern of flight, I do appreciate the lounge access I get.
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There is just a small difference between the average Admirals club and the Concorde room.
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I was replying to not getting lounge access if travelling on Domestic First.
If you are travelling anywhere else you would anyway get that with equivalent OW status.
Regardless in terms of "value" the lounge access is hardly a huge benefit. Based on the price paid to access 3rd party lounges I would say it is worth about £40 per return flight. You anyway have to subsidize that by not booking an HBO fare, so value is reduced to more like £10-15.
That's not taking into account the fact that more often than not you can find cheaper flights with Ryanair, Easyjet etc and often at more convenient times.
The "value" of an upgrade to CE is substantially higher, as evident by the prices BA is charging for it.
I would take the 8 SWUs and unlimited domestic upgrades over lounge access.
Also the OP is taking the minimum of BA flights, so I somehow doubt he flies within Europe that often on One World carriers.
If you are travelling anywhere else you would anyway get that with equivalent OW status.
Regardless in terms of "value" the lounge access is hardly a huge benefit. Based on the price paid to access 3rd party lounges I would say it is worth about £40 per return flight. You anyway have to subsidize that by not booking an HBO fare, so value is reduced to more like £10-15.
That's not taking into account the fact that more often than not you can find cheaper flights with Ryanair, Easyjet etc and often at more convenient times.
The "value" of an upgrade to CE is substantially higher, as evident by the prices BA is charging for it.
I would take the 8 SWUs and unlimited domestic upgrades over lounge access.
Also the OP is taking the minimum of BA flights, so I somehow doubt he flies within Europe that often on One World carriers.
Of all the undoubted benefits BA Gold endows, the value of domestic lounge access in the US is the most consistently overstated on these boards. With the exception of a small number of what are pretty ordinary FL's the same access is available to Silver members anyway. In addition, as already pointed out, AC membership can be purchased for very little money and, for those with a substantial AA mileage balance, almost nothing at all.
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A passenger taking many QR F or J flights between London and Doha would find better use for their Avios than any Q-miles they might earn and suffer no material loss of benefits.
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