So - who got a free upgrade this week?
#1921
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How common is it for Oneworld Emeralds to get upgraded on BA flights? I am an AA EXP and only once have I received an upgrade (WTP-CW) 10 years ago, since then I have traveled a lot on long-haul BA, but seems like upgrades are mostly given to BAEC members and not Oneworld.
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Apologies if this has been answered elsewhere in the thread, but are upgrades in Europe always decided in LDN in the 'back room' or at outstations?
In our example, we were returning from BCN to LHR, the flight was full (partly because the flight before had been cancelled I think, but Expertflyer has said all 9 flights that day were very busy before the weather-related cancellations and delays). We were on a rtn section of an avios redemption, had chosen 12A/B in Y, and were 'elevated' via the app in the lounge to Club, albeit in different rows (5/6).
In our example, we were returning from BCN to LHR, the flight was full (partly because the flight before had been cancelled I think, but Expertflyer has said all 9 flights that day were very busy before the weather-related cancellations and delays). We were on a rtn section of an avios redemption, had chosen 12A/B in Y, and were 'elevated' via the app in the lounge to Club, albeit in different rows (5/6).
#1923
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Upgraded at the gate WTP to CW 2 Oct BA278 SJC-LHR. I'd been offered (and declined) a paid upgrade for around $900 at check-in. While in the lounge I noticed my seat had (silently) changed in the app. Didn't want to get my hopes up but waiting at the gate a long list of names started to be called out to visit the counter (mostly for passport checks I think) and then my name was called ... great way to finish my trip! As an aside had a great flight and I thought the CC were excellent.
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By computer, no idea where it lives but presumably in West London or Bangalore. I would estimate 98% are DUT led, so it matters not where you are. On the margins, there may be cases at out-stations where something is only discovered at the last moment (e.g. a broken seat discovered during boarding) so crew or ground staff have to make a decision quickly. Then there are very limited circumstances when the SCCM can use their discretion to upgrade to fix problems. But DUT is built into FLY and can automatically, rapidly work out who should get an upgrade.
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Earlier this week I came across an Instagram story that was publically shared globally of a MF crew member on a long haul route which upgraded her friend to First on the flight she was working on. Is this kind of behavior really allowed or an infringement of business conduct?
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By computer, no idea where it lives but presumably in West London or Bangalore. I would estimate 98% are DUT led, so it matters not where you are. On the margins, there may be cases at out-stations where something is only discovered at the last moment (e.g. a broken seat discovered during boarding) so crew or ground staff have to make a decision quickly. Then there are very limited circumstances when the SCCM can use their discretion to upgrade to fix problems. But DUT is built into FLY and can automatically, rapidly work out who should get an upgrade.
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Some of your recent POUG examples seem way off the POUG scale and look suspiciously like Fare Differences instead, but if it's shown as a Time Limited Offer then it's officially a POUG, the key point being that your base ticket stays the same rather than become a new fare.
* there are cases reported of people travelling with identical tickets, one person being offered a POUG, the other not, and just occasionally it will be SIlver = Good, Gold = Bad.
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Excuse my ignorance but what does DUT stand for?
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You probably need to be travelling in WTP to see the benefit of this. BA flies with a lot of status passenger in ET and WT, depending on the route, so no-one's chances there would be that good. But in WTP, being a small cabin, the chances would be somewhat higher, even though, paradoxically, that cabin is status rich (again a generalisation which varies between routes).
Discretionary Upgrade Tool. It's an Amadeus originated module like Theoretical Seating, where BA can configure the beneficiaries to suit their business needs.
Discretionary Upgrade Tool. It's an Amadeus originated module like Theoretical Seating, where BA can configure the beneficiaries to suit their business needs.
#1930
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LHR-MXP 02Oct - 2 travellers on booking , upgraded from ET to CE on a full Avios redemption booking but seats split up post upgrade. We were originally seated on exit row in ET.
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Earlier this week I came across an Instagram story that was publically shared globally of a MF crew member on a long haul route which upgraded her friend to First on the flight she was working on. Is this kind of behavior really allowed or an infringement of business conduct?
#1933
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LHR-AMS today travelling with my nephew we were OpUp’d to CE travelling on RFS. I noticed my seat change in the app about 90 minutes before departure time. I’d only passed through security about 15 mins before.
#1934
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JTR to LHR. Having been offered 239 per person upgrade at check-in I declined. At gate (if you can call it a gate in JTR) the notorious beep. Upgraded from exit row to row 1 ( me gold, wife silver). No new boarding passes, just told the seat numbers, felt a bit odd, enjoyed service very much!
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Santorini for those (like me) who have gaps in their IATA airport codes!
JTR to LHR. Having been offered 239 per person upgrade at check-in I declined. At gate (if you can call it a gate in JTR) the notorious beep. Upgraded from exit row to row 1 ( me gold, wife silver). No new boarding passes, just told the seat numbers, felt a bit odd, enjoyed service very much!