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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Aug 9, 2018, 1:02 pm
#2341
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I hope it won’t be a version of the Polaris seat used on the AA 772. So uncomfortable in the bed mode with a clear ridge between the head rest and seat body. Foot coffin claustrophobic, lack of privacy (your head feels exposed) and storage worse than current CW. would like to have seen an updated version of current seat with all sidle access or QR Q suite.
Aug 9, 2018, 1:34 pm
#2342
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I have it on good authority that First should remain on the 77Es. Whether it is on all, or a few, or the majority... I don't know.
The plans I've seen mentioned CW, WT+ and WT... So I suspect you might be right on this.
The plans I've seen mentioned CW, WT+ and WT... So I suspect you might be right on this.
Aug 9, 2018, 1:52 pm
#2343
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If the first A350’s are coming without First, presumably it will mean quite a lot of shuffling of routes/equipment? Or maybe we will just see some services on routes like NY-LON without F cabins?
Aug 9, 2018, 2:33 pm
#2344
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772 and 350 seat configuration suggests no F. Expect new CW seats (with doors) to be launched on those before the 787-10 deliveries.
Aug 9, 2018, 2:41 pm
#2345
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Why are people sure it’ll feature on NYC? No new aircraft so far have served JFK I can’t see why the A350 will
Aug 9, 2018, 2:48 pm
#2346
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Indeed, you're not the only one thinking "Okay, so why fly F now?". It's a concern, but only a small cabin - and getting smaller:
Expect smaller F cabins (more personal) and more "soft" improvements. AFAIK there are no concrete plans for new F seats just yet. But smaller cabins, more personalised service, that kind of fluffy stuff, can be changed pretty instantly and will be next year with new CW on the A350. In any case, all will be revealed when it's revealed... Expect to see lots of news from BA in 2019 with the centenary celebrations - new aircraft, new uniform, new TV ads, new CW. We'll see how it all turns out.
Expect smaller F cabins (more personal) and more "soft" improvements. AFAIK there are no concrete plans for new F seats just yet. But smaller cabins, more personalised service, that kind of fluffy stuff, can be changed pretty instantly and will be next year with new CW on the A350. In any case, all will be revealed when it's revealed... Expect to see lots of news from BA in 2019 with the centenary celebrations - new aircraft, new uniform, new TV ads, new CW. We'll see how it all turns out.
Aug 9, 2018, 2:48 pm
#2347
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It just seemed likely because as the A350 comes in as some of the 747-400s go, and NYC is a very 747-heavy route currently. But obviously it seems things will as ever be a little more complex than that!
Aug 9, 2018, 3:04 pm
#2348
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Aug 9, 2018, 3:17 pm
#2349
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Whilst hard product on board may become a bit more blurred (potentially, we do not know), my 2 strategies for F would be: A) stick a door on each suite. B) completely go OTT on soft and ground product. Over which some has happened already, FWing, CCR improvements, First First and on we go. You can always go all out on F product. Just keep it small (cabin) and up the luxury elements.
CW May catch up in terms of seats (suites) but ultimately it won’t in terms of exclusivity. You can differentiate in so many ways when it comes to the extremities of luxury. A silly example would be serve a rare red in F that could never be served in CW and people will still pay the difference. Luxury is all in the detail.
But we are really digressing a thread here. Sorry mods.
I look forward to the 350 joining the fleet. (My weak attempt at bringing it back on topic)
CW May catch up in terms of seats (suites) but ultimately it won’t in terms of exclusivity. You can differentiate in so many ways when it comes to the extremities of luxury. A silly example would be serve a rare red in F that could never be served in CW and people will still pay the difference. Luxury is all in the detail.
But we are really digressing a thread here. Sorry mods.
I look forward to the 350 joining the fleet. (My weak attempt at bringing it back on topic)
Aug 9, 2018, 3:18 pm
#2350
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It seems to me that a more likely scenario is for the A350 to replace the 777-300ER on routes like HKG, SIN/SYD and HND; the 777-300ER would then replace the 747 to PHX, LAS and DEN, for example. Of course, if the A350 does not have F and is deployed on the routes I have suggested, HKG and SIN would still have F by virtue of the A380 and TYO courtesy of the NRT route! Having said that, it would seem that some routes will lose F altogether, PVG perhaps being one example.
Aug 9, 2018, 3:30 pm
#2351
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It seems to me that a more likely scenario is for the A350 to replace the 777-300ER on routes like HKG, SIN/SYD and HND; the 777-300ER would then replace the 747 to PHX, LAS and DEN, for example. Of course, if the A350 does not have F and is deployed on the routes I have suggested, HKG and SIN would still have F by virtue of the A380 and TYO courtesy of the NRT route! Having said that, it would seem that some routes will lose F altogether, PVG perhaps being one example.
2 things for the future:
Be interesting to see what becomes the 747 high j replacement as 86 seats takes up a lot of aircraft!
And what the 777-200ER replacement will be, which I think will be an A350-900 order in the early - mid 2020’s with some more 787-10’s.
So by the late 2020’s the fleet will probably be: A32N/A380/A350 and 787/777.
Aug 9, 2018, 6:48 pm
#2352
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Aug 10, 2018, 1:56 am
#2353
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I can see the A350 serving JFK initially and then being replaced with a densified B77W with the newest CW as B747 are retired from the JFK route and thus continuing newest CW on this important route.
My guess for a densified JFK B77W is Y only in the rear section, a smaller F cabin, min 40W seats and the rest J.
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Aug 10, 2018, 2:32 am
#2354
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I think that could be quite accurate.
2 things for the future:
Be interesting to see what becomes the 747 high j replacement as 86 seats takes up a lot of aircraft!
And what the 777-200ER replacement will be, which I think will be an A350-900 order in the early - mid 2020’s with some more 787-10’s.
So by the late 2020’s the fleet will probably be: A32N/A380/A350 and 787/777.
Aug 10, 2018, 10:21 am
#2355
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rockflyertalk hit the nail on the head with the CW vs F debate going on inside BA. F will get lots of small things, and some a/c will loose F altogether. It's CW that makes the money.
In any case, to get the thread back on track: expect a lot of fleet cascading when the 350s come and the 747s go. It won't be a simple swap. BA will move aircraft where they are needed, and we will start to see new configs with the new CW. (1-2-1, no F, etc etc)
The NEOs continue to trickle in and BA's fleet gets more complex by the day!
In any case, to get the thread back on track: expect a lot of fleet cascading when the 350s come and the 747s go. It won't be a simple swap. BA will move aircraft where they are needed, and we will start to see new configs with the new CW. (1-2-1, no F, etc etc)
The NEOs continue to trickle in and BA's fleet gets more complex by the day!