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BA FLEET: NEW AIRCRAFT ARRIVALS AND RETIREMENTS WIKI
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
BA are in the mid-stages of a large fleet renewal programme. The new aircraft enabled BA to retire the 767 and 737 Classic fleets with retirement of the 747 fleet and selected 777/A319 aircraft currently in progress.
This Wiki has been divided into:
- Projected Fleet
- New Arrivals
- Retrofits
- Retirements
- Historical Fleet
(Click on the aircraft type, where there is a link, to go to the relevant details in this wikipost.)
Projected Fleet
This renewal programme, which is being complemented with a cabin refresh for some of the older aircraft, is expected to see the following fleet numbers at year end 2022.
Heathrow Fleet and Gatwick Fleet
Shorthaul
• A319: 9 (38 currently in fleet)
• A320ceo: 67 (67 currently in fleet)
• A320neo: 22 (12 currently in fleet)
• A321ceo: 14 (14 currently in fleet)
• A321neo: 13 (9 currently in fleet)
Midhaul
• A321: 4 (4 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A350-1000: 18 (6 currently in fleet)
• A380: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B747-400: 12 (30 currently in fleet)
• B777-200ER: 43 (43 currently in fleet)
• B777-300ER: 16 (12 currently in fleet)
• B777-9: 8 (0 currently in fleet)
• B787-8: 12 (12 currently in fleet)
• B787-9: 18 (18 currently in fleet)
• B787-10: 9 (2 currently in fleet)
London City Fleet
Shorthaul
• E170 / E190: 28 (24 currently in fleet)
Longhaul
• A318: 1 (1 currently in fleet)
New Arrivals
Airbus A320ceo: Ten A320ceos were delivered between June 2013 and October 2014, based at LHR. Ten second hand A320ceos were delivered to LGW between December 2014 and August 2016. Details are archived here.
Airbus A320neo: 35 A320neo family aircraft (25 A320s and 10 A321s) were ordered to replace 21 of the older A319 and A320ceos and add extra capacity. Deliveries started in 2018. In May 2019 three A320neos were converted to A321neo bringing the split to 22 A320s and 13 A321s.
G-TTNA - Delivered on 10 Apr 2018
G-TTNB - Delivered on 25 Apr 2018
G-TTNC - Delivered on 07 Jun 2018
G-TTND - Delivered on 26 Jul 2018
G-TTNE - Delivered on 21 Sep 2018
G-TTNF - Delivered on 27 Oct 2018
G-TTNG - Delivered on 29 Nov 2018
G-TTNH - Delivered on 17 Jan 2019
G-TTNI - Delivered on 20 Feb 2019
G-TTNJ - Delivered on 28 Feb 2019
G-TTNK - Delivered on 27 Feb 2020
G-TTNL - Delivered on 09 Mar 2020
G-TTNM - Due in May 2020?
G-TTNN - Due in Jul 2020
G-TTNO - Due in Sep 2020
G-TTNP - Due in 2020
G-TTNR -
G-TTNS -
G-TTNT -
G-TTNU -
G-TTNV -
G-TTNW -
Airbus A321neo:
G-NEOR - Delivered on 23 Nov 2018
G-NEOS - Delivered on 29 Jan 2019
G-NEOT - Delivered on 01 Mar 2019
G-NEOP - Delivered on 27 Mar 2019
G-NEOU - Delivered on 10 May 2019
G-NEOV - Delivered on 30 Aug 2019
G-NEOW - Delivered on 25 Oct 2019
G-NEOX - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-NEOZ - Delivered on 17 Mar 2020
G-NEOY - Due in May 2020?
G-TNEA -
G-TNEB -
G-TNEC -
Airbus A350: BA ordered 18 A350-1000s for delivery between 2019 and 2021. They will all be based at LHR are being delivered as 3-class in a 56J/56W/219Y configuration. Deliveries started in July 2019.
G-XWBA - Delivered on 27 Jul 2019
G-XWBB - Delivered on 19 Sep 2019
G-XWBC - Delivered on 26 Nov 2019
G-XWBD - Delivered on 23 Dec 2019
G-XWBE - Delivered on 12 Feb 2020
G-XWBF - Delivered on 20 May 2020
G-XWBG - Due in Jun 2020
G-XWBH - Due in Jul 2020
G-XWBI - Due in Oct 2020
G-XWBJ - Due in Jan 2021
G-XWBK - Due in Feb 2021
G-XWBL -
G-XWBM -
G-XWBN -
G-XWBO -
G-XWBP -
G-XWBR -
G-XWBS -
Airbus A380: Twelve A380s were delivered between July 2013 and June 2016 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 777-300ER: Six 777-300ERs were delivered between September 2013 and August 2014 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here. A further three were ordered in November 2018, and a fourth in December 2018. These final four are due to be delivered from Q3 2020.
G-STBM - Due in Jul 2020?
G-STBN - Due in Aug 2020?
G-STBO - Due in 2020
G-STBP - Due in 2020
Boeing 777-9: In February 2019 BA announced an order for 18 Boeing 777-9 aircraft plus 24 options which will be powered by General Electric GE9X engines. Each aircraft will be fitted with 325 seats in a 4-class, 8F/65J/46W/206Y configuration. The 777-9s on order will be used to replace 14 Boeing 747-400 and four Boeing 777-200ER between 2022 and 2025.
Boeing 787-8: Twelve 787-8s were delivered between June 2013 and November 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-9: Eighteen 787-9s were delivered between September 2015 and June 2018 and are based at LHR. Details are archived here.
Boeing 787-10: BA has 12 787-10s on order to be delivered between 2020 and 2023: Each aircraft will be fitted with 256 seats in a 4 class 8F/48J/35W/165Y configuration.
G-ZBLA - Due 24th May 2020
G-ZBLB - Due in Jun 2020
G-ZBLC - Due in Aug 2020
G-ZBLD - Due in 2020
G-ZBLE - Due in 2020
G-ZBLF - Due in 2020
G-ZBLG - Due in 2021
G-ZBLH - Due in 2021
G-ZBLI - Due in 2022
G-ZBLJ - Due in 2023
G-ZBLK - Due in 2023
G-ZBLL - Due in 2023
Embraer 190: Three more new Embraer 190s were delivered in May 2014 and September 2014. Details are archived here. Seven second hand aircraft have since been sourced. Two more are due in 2020.
G-LCYV - Delivered on 19 Dec 2015
G-LCYW - Delivered on 25 May 2016
G-LCYX - Delivered on 10 Jul 2016
G-LCYY - Delivered on 22 Dec 2017
G-LCYZ - Delivered on 17 May 2018
G-LCAA - Delivered on 23 May 2019
G-LCAB - Delivered on 21 July 2019
G-LCAC - Due into service June 2020 (currently at WAW)
G-LCAD - Due in June / July 2020? (currently at CAN)
G-LCAE
G-LCAF
G-LCAG
G-LCAH
Retrofits
A320ceo:
The A320ceos currently based at LHR are being reconfigured from CY168 to CY180. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE, (unlike the A320neos).
There are currently 55 completed.
Completed (CY180):
G-EUUA/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y/Z
G-EUYA/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I/J/K/L/M/N/O/P/R/S/T/U/V/W/X/Y
G-MEDK
G-MIDO/S/T/X/Y
G-TTOB/E
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Madrid:
G-EUUB/C
A321ceo (Completed):
All 14 shorthaul frames have now been reconfigured from a CY205 to a CY218. These feature Pinnacle seats throughout and still have tables in CE (unlike the A321neos). The four midhaul frames remain unchanged in a 23J/131Y layout.
Boeing 777-200ER:
For full details on the complete refit plan of the 777s, see the following detailed thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...8-onwards.html
LGW Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These do notfeature the new Club World seat. This commenced in January 2018.
There are currently 14 completed.
Completed (32J/52W/252Y): G-VIIO/P/R/T/U/X
Completed (32J/48W/252Y): G-YMMB/C/D/E/F
Completed (14F/48J/40W/136Y): G-VIIV/W/Y
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at
Cardiff:
None
LHR Cabin retrofit of 777-200ERs with 10-across economy seating and upgraded Panasonic IFE. These feature the new Club World seat. This commenced in August 2019.
There are currently 6 completed.
Completed (8F/49J/40W/138Y): G-VIIB/K/L/M/N, G-RAES
The following aircraft are currently undergoing cabin refit at Cardiff
G-VIIF - Arrived at CWL on 14 April
G-VIIA - Arrived at CWL on 25 April
Boeing 777-300ER:
Cabin retrofit to commence in October 2020 in an 8F/76J/40W/130Y configuration with the new Club World seat.
Retirement
With all the new arrivals there are also some much loved/hated (*delete as applicable) older aircraft heading for scrapping. Until 2015 most of these ended up in Victorville (VCV) in California for storage and ultimately part out for scrap. Since then most ex-BA planes have been sent to St Athan (DGX) in Wales for scrapping. Recent 747 retirements have been to Kemble (GBA) in England for scrapping.
Airbus A319:
G-DBCI - Retired to MAD on 07 Mar 2018
G-EUPV - Retired to DGX on 01 Nov 2018
G-EUOH - Retired to DGX on 05 Sep 2019
G-EUPX - Retired to DGX on 07 Sep 2019
G-EUOI - Retired to DGX on 04 Nov 2019
G-EUPE - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOC - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOD - Retired to DGX on 11 Mar 2020
G-EUOB - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
The next to be retired (subject to change) are:
G-EUPA - Due to be withdrawn in Sep 2020
G-EUPC - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2020
G-EUPB - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2021
G-EUPF - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPH - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPJ - Due to be withdrawn in Nov 2021
G-EUPK - Due to be withdrawn in Aug 2022
G-EUOE - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
G-EUOF - Due to be withdrawn in Oct 2022
Airbus A320:
G-TTOB - Due to be withdrawn in Feb 2022
Boeing 747-400: As of 27 April 2020, 29 747-400s have been retired from the original fleet of 57, leaving 30 aircraft in service. Of those remaining, 17 are "super high-J" aircraft (14F / 86J / 30W / 145Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). The remaining 11 aircraft are "mid-J" aircraft. (14F / 52J / 36W / 235Y). (Cabin refresh dates here). All remaining aircraft have been refurbished.
The current plan is for all aircraft to be retired by February 2024. According to the Capital Markets Day presentation in November 2019, BA plan to have the following amount of 747s in the fleet at year end:
- 2020: 25 aircraft
- 2021: 20 aircraft
- 2022: 12 aircraft
- 2023: 3 aircraft
Since then the following have been retired:
G-BNLN - Retired to DGX on 24 Jun 2019
G-CIVG - Retired to DGX on 25 Nov 2019
G-CIVM - Retired to DGX on 16 Mar 2020
G-CIVL - Retired to GBA 14 Apr 2020
G-CIVJ - Retired to GBA 15 Apr 2020
G-CIVN - Retired to GBA on 16 Apr 2020
For a further analysis of the fleet and retirement plans: see Globaliser's tracker.
The last known planned dates of the next retirements were as follows (but should all be regarded as subject to change). All the retirements will be of the "mid-J" configuration unless stated otherwise.
G-CIVI - Due to be retired in Apr 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVD - Due to be retired in May 2020
G-CIVH - Due to be retired in Jun 2020 [super high-J]
G-CIVK - Due to be retired in Jan 2021
G-CIVF - Due to be retired in Jun 2021 [super high-J]
G-CIVB - Due to be retired in 2022
G-CIVC - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-CIVE - Due to be retired in Nov 2022
G-BYGC - Due to be retired in 2023 [super high-J]
G-BNLY - Due to be retired in 2023
Boeing 777-200:
G-ZZZC - Retired to DGX on 13 Jan 2020
G-ZZZA - Due to be retired in Sep 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 19 Mar 2020]
G-ZZZB - Due to be retired in Oct 2020 [potential early retirement - stored at LHR 20 Mar 2020]
Embraer 170:
G-LCYE - Retired to WAW on 07 May 2020
Historical Fleet
Boeing 737: The last remaining 737 was retired in Oct 2015. Details are archived here.
Boeing 767: The last remaining 767 was retired in Nov 2018. Details are archived here.
BA Fleet : New aircraft arrivals and retirements master tracker
Feb 16, 2017, 1:00 am
#1711
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
But how much spare capacity should they be expected to provide? On the winter timetable they require just 4 A321s in MidHaul configuration. These do one round trip to Beirut, one to Amman, one to Cairo, and two to Moscow. The timings on Moscow allow both trips to be done by the same aircraft and this is normally what happens. The rest of the time the mid-haul fleet fills in on shorthaul work. After this conversion there are still 6 MidHaul A321s. My understanding is that one more conversion to shorthaul configuration will happen this year. That will leave one spare plane for 4 working. That's hardly reckless or inconsiderate of passengers, is it?
Feb 16, 2017, 1:42 pm
#1712
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: London
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Posts: 2,221
What is the longer term fate of AMM and CAI, I wonder? Will these become shorthaul destinations?
Feb 16, 2017, 3:27 pm
#1713
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: West of Heathrow
Programs: BA Exec Silver, IHG Platinum
Posts: 40
For the summer schedule CAI will have a widebody aircraft.
Feb 16, 2017, 3:41 pm
#1714
Join Date: Feb 2014
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I have Cairo widebody in May 788. In November it is still showing LHR-CAI as A321 and I am in 1B but suspect this will change soon with the reconfiguration, they will have to send the 788 there.
Feb 16, 2017, 9:28 pm
#1715
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 7,237
That's not what I heard. Latest I heard, in facts, was that they were looking into increasing Club on the remaining A321s without reducing the Y count too much. This was stuff of some months ago, admittedly, and things might've changed but increasing J was being discussed as a fait accompli back in the summer.
Feb 16, 2017, 11:51 pm
#1716
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
That's not what I heard. Latest I heard, in facts, was that they were looking into increasing Club on the remaining A321s without reducing the Y count too much. This was stuff of some months ago, admittedly, and things might've changed but increasing J was being discussed as a fait accompli back in the summer.
So there won't be any spare seats around within BA to use to add extra matching CW seating in the A321s, apart from seats removed from planes converted to shorthaul. If they convert a second plane that would give 46 seats across the remaining 5 planes. There may be a stockpile of 767 CW seats, and they'll obviously have the ones used in 747s and 777s. I certainly don't see them buying brand new seats of the same pattern, even if they're still in production.
Feb 17, 2017, 5:05 am
#1717
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They certainly won't be doubling the cabin on those A321s - I'd say they would install an extra 2-3 rows per aircraft. That is 30 to 45 total extra seats needed, and as they are currently converting MEDM that gives 46 seats.
Of course some won't fit "anywhere", e.g. row 1 seats and 07F. Not sure what the back of row 8 is like regarding TVs and the foot cut-out.
Of course some won't fit "anywhere", e.g. row 1 seats and 07F. Not sure what the back of row 8 is like regarding TVs and the foot cut-out.
Feb 17, 2017, 8:00 am
#1718
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Hackney, UK
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Posts: 45
Surely they are not going to convert all five remaining mid haul A321s to short haul config too? I've read nothing that suggests this will be the case. The only official announcement was about the conversion of the two frames mentioned, with the rest to stay as they are.
In my view they are missing a trick here as mid haul A321s provide the opportunity to open new routes or add frequency where a B788 is too much plane. East Coast USA/Canada, North & West Africa, Middle East and Central Asia spring to mind, plus the likes of Istanbul, Athens and Larnaca.
It may be that they will convert some of their A321neo options to the LR version in future. This would give them the right size frame to launch long haul from the regions plus serve routes similar to those I outline above from LHR.
In my view they are missing a trick here as mid haul A321s provide the opportunity to open new routes or add frequency where a B788 is too much plane. East Coast USA/Canada, North & West Africa, Middle East and Central Asia spring to mind, plus the likes of Istanbul, Athens and Larnaca.
It may be that they will convert some of their A321neo options to the LR version in future. This would give them the right size frame to launch long haul from the regions plus serve routes similar to those I outline above from LHR.
Feb 17, 2017, 8:34 am
#1719
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Surely they are not going to convert all five remaining mid haul A321s to short haul config too? I've read nothing that suggests this will be the case. The only official announcement was about the conversion of the two frames mentioned, with the rest to stay as they are.
Feb 17, 2017, 10:24 am
#1720
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
In my view they are missing a trick here as mid haul A321s provide the opportunity to open new routes or add frequency where a B788 is too much plane. East Coast USA/Canada, North & West Africa, Middle East and Central Asia spring to mind, plus the likes of Istanbul, Athens and Larnaca.
It may be that they will convert some of their A321neo options to the LR version in future. This would give them the right size frame to launch long haul from the regions plus serve routes similar to those I outline above from LHR.
It may be that they will convert some of their A321neo options to the LR version in future. This would give them the right size frame to launch long haul from the regions plus serve routes similar to those I outline above from LHR.
Most Middle Eastern destinations already have service by larger BA planes, or currently have mid-haul A321s, or are too unstable for BA to fly there at the moment. Would you book for Damascus or Sanaa any time soon?
These very A321s have been used to quite a list of places in Central Asia in the recent past and BA has suspended service altogether because even they are too much plane for the routes in current economic conditions.
North and West Africa are within range, but BA gave up on several 767 worked routes there because they were losing money. Perhaps you could suggest some destinations you think would work.
And as a regular visitor to Athens, I'd love to see them there, but it would mean a capacity drop compared to the shorthaul A320s, A321s and 767s being used now. Same applies to Istanbul and Larnanca.
Feb 27, 2017, 8:57 am
#1721
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 87
Latest IAG results show the following 787's left for delivery... (Table at very end of article)
-8 : 4
-9 : 2
-10 : 12
The wiki is showing 5 -9's to be delivered... Anyone for editing??
-8 : 4
-9 : 2
-10 : 12
The wiki is showing 5 -9's to be delivered... Anyone for editing??
Feb 27, 2017, 9:45 am
#1722
Moderator, Iberia Airlines, Airport Lounges, and Ambassador, British Airways Executive Club
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I will let one of the fleet experts do any editing to the wiki (I used to have trouble telling the difference between a 767 and a 777 from the outside), but the thing I can certainly do is to greet you, TorqueDude, to the BA Board here on Flyertalk. Thanks very much for spotting that detail, and indeed for popping along here to report it. Welcome to the forum.
Mar 12, 2017, 8:39 am
#1723
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BA Source and Jethro's are showing that G-BNLN and BNLO have been withdrawn to Cardiff several months ahead of plan. Anyone throw any light on the situation?
Mar 12, 2017, 9:41 am
#1724
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Location: Hong Kong
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With BA announcing at the 2016 Capital Markets Day that post-2020 it would retain 23 747s, 4 more than previously planned, an interesting snippet has appeared in the Airliners forum.
with the additional 4 747s being retained - a total of 5 extra low-J 747s are going to be refurbished to super hi-J
Link: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewt...7183#p19401867
Is there anything else official? Looking at CWS.
with the additional 4 747s being retained - a total of 5 extra low-J 747s are going to be refurbished to super hi-J
Link: http://www.airliners.net/forum/viewt...7183#p19401867
Is there anything else official? Looking at CWS.
All the 70J-configured 744s have now been converted to 'High J' with 86 J seats - 18 aircraft in all. There are no aircraft still flying with a 70J cabin.
A further 5 aircraft from the 'Low J' pool are also due for conversion over the coming months. They will be the only aircraft from the 52J pool to have been converted, with no plans for further conversions at present.
A further 5 aircraft from the 'Low J' pool are also due for conversion over the coming months. They will be the only aircraft from the 52J pool to have been converted, with no plans for further conversions at present.
Mar 12, 2017, 10:46 pm
#1725
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 399
Isn't the retention of 747s heavily related to the stretching out of the delivery period of A350s?
This time last year the plan was to have all 18 A350-1000s delivered and in traffic over the period from 2018 to very early 2021. On the published fleet plan there were 19 747s still in service on 31 December 2020, but the 19th plane was unrefurbished and wouldn't last long into 2021.
Now the delivery of the A350-1000s won't be complete until 2022, so there will be 23 747s still in service on 31 December 2020.
I've seen nothing other than the airliners.net posting linked to that suggests the "extra" 747s will now be refurbished and reseated to Super-Hi-J for what will be around a one year life extension. That's not to say they won't, but you'd think BA would be glad to announce it.
This time last year the plan was to have all 18 A350-1000s delivered and in traffic over the period from 2018 to very early 2021. On the published fleet plan there were 19 747s still in service on 31 December 2020, but the 19th plane was unrefurbished and wouldn't last long into 2021.
Now the delivery of the A350-1000s won't be complete until 2022, so there will be 23 747s still in service on 31 December 2020.
I've seen nothing other than the airliners.net posting linked to that suggests the "extra" 747s will now be refurbished and reseated to Super-Hi-J for what will be around a one year life extension. That's not to say they won't, but you'd think BA would be glad to announce it.