Ask the BA Staffer and Heathrow ATC
Nov 22, 2011, 3:20 am
#286
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Ahem. Fruitcake. Leave the 73s out of this. They climb like a rocket.
Nov 22, 2011, 3:26 am
#287
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Nov 22, 2011, 3:36 am
#288
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Nov 22, 2011, 12:25 pm
#289
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Thanks for the kind comments towards ATC......sometimes it's good to know that the dice we roll to decide how close we put those aeroplanes work well.
And even if they do get a bit close, we just zoom in on the radar screen and everything seems a lot further apart. ^
And even if they do get a bit close, we just zoom in on the radar screen and everything seems a lot further apart. ^
Last edited by Heathrow Tower; Nov 22, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Nov 22, 2011, 12:37 pm
#290
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Yeah, yeah ... we all love you really
At least everyone's going at roughly the same speed!!
Try a Radar pattern with a mix of around 8 or so of Lightning, Mirage, Hunter, Canberra, Strikemaster and Single Pioneer.
Pattern speeds ranging from 250+kts to around 80kts ... that'll screw your sweet spacing theories!!
That said, I would NOT like to be the Final Director at LHR. The consequences of screwing up that spacing at a busy period are simply awful
At least everyone's going at roughly the same speed!!
Try a Radar pattern with a mix of around 8 or so of Lightning, Mirage, Hunter, Canberra, Strikemaster and Single Pioneer.
Pattern speeds ranging from 250+kts to around 80kts ... that'll screw your sweet spacing theories!!
That said, I would NOT like to be the Final Director at LHR. The consequences of screwing up that spacing at a busy period are simply awful
Nov 22, 2011, 2:14 pm
#291
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I'd like to use my 1,000th post to thank Cold Walker for starting this thread and to BBB for inspiring it. Interesting thread. Can't think of anything to ask, myself but been very inteersting. Hope it stays on the front page. In fact asking for the indulgence, couldn't LTN phobia or Swanhunter make this a sticky? 
Nov 22, 2011, 2:31 pm
#292
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[QUOTE=itsmeitisss;17499528]I'd like to use my 1,000th post to thank Cold Walker for starting this thread and to BBB for inspiring it. Interesting thread. QUOTE]
Congrats on your 1k!
Congrats on your 1k!
Nov 22, 2011, 2:35 pm
#293
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(though I don't work in ATC, so maybe your systems are different, or I just need coffee right now).
Nov 22, 2011, 2:43 pm
#294
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Nov 22, 2011, 3:12 pm
#295
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I remember a few years ago, my then 13 year old nephew was flying unaccompanied ABZ - JNB with stop somewhere in Europe with BA. He missed his Europe connection along with a couple of other kids. They were treated to an airport tour to kill some time. Poor things were left in a room somewhere they could be looked after and were getting might bored.
Same nephew flew JNB - KTN the next year and got horribly airsick. All that was clean was one tshirt and his underwear. He came off the plane wearing a pair of BA first pj's 50 sizes too big for him! Apparently the FA's made him a bed in the back with three seats and extra pillows and blankets. ^^^
Same nephew flew JNB - KTN the next year and got horribly airsick. All that was clean was one tshirt and his underwear. He came off the plane wearing a pair of BA first pj's 50 sizes too big for him! Apparently the FA's made him a bed in the back with three seats and extra pillows and blankets. ^^^
You hear so much rubbish in the press, i'd be intrigued to know -
a) how many hours you work on average a week. You know proper hours - not 'flight hours', not 'commuting from your house in Cape Town to Gatwick hours', but the moment you start work to finish, how it averages out. Does a Pilot, ATC, Cabin Crew work on average a 38 hour week? Or a French Week? Or a Small Business Owner Week?
b) Back in the 80's flying BA as an unaccompanied minor, engine problems meant missing my connection in Changi, so a BA female cabin crew had to be assigned to look after me for some 22 hours in Singapore. Which must have detracted her own personal down time. I do wonder and feel guilt, especially as it also happened on the return. But wonder if these days, with a lot more stringent laws and whatever, who would be responsible for looking after unaccompanied kids in a 3rd countries? Is this a real downside, or just allocated to the most senior (female?) on the crew? Would BA just absolutely these days refuse to take an unaccompanied minor connecting onto a 3rd airline (I was connecting on SQ, but BA as the airline with the engine problems in both directions accommodated / fed / escorted me).
a) how many hours you work on average a week. You know proper hours - not 'flight hours', not 'commuting from your house in Cape Town to Gatwick hours', but the moment you start work to finish, how it averages out. Does a Pilot, ATC, Cabin Crew work on average a 38 hour week? Or a French Week? Or a Small Business Owner Week?
b) Back in the 80's flying BA as an unaccompanied minor, engine problems meant missing my connection in Changi, so a BA female cabin crew had to be assigned to look after me for some 22 hours in Singapore. Which must have detracted her own personal down time. I do wonder and feel guilt, especially as it also happened on the return. But wonder if these days, with a lot more stringent laws and whatever, who would be responsible for looking after unaccompanied kids in a 3rd countries? Is this a real downside, or just allocated to the most senior (female?) on the crew? Would BA just absolutely these days refuse to take an unaccompanied minor connecting onto a 3rd airline (I was connecting on SQ, but BA as the airline with the engine problems in both directions accommodated / fed / escorted me).
Nov 23, 2011, 10:52 am
#297
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I'd like to use my 1,000th post to thank Cold Walker for starting this thread and to BBB for inspiring it. Interesting thread. Can't think of anything to ask, myself but been very inteersting. Hope it stays on the front page. In fact asking for the indulgence, couldn't LTN phobia or Swanhunter make this a sticky?
Not sure it deserves a sticky to be honest. True, there are useful nuggets. But there is also lots of waffle round them (waffle in a good way - amusing and interesting. I wasn't having a pop at anyone!).
Nov 23, 2011, 11:06 am
#298
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A question for the OP - why does your profile list HHonours, as opposed to HHonors.
I know the Americans screw around with the English language, but there's no 'u' in the official programme (or should that be program) title.
I know the Americans screw around with the English language, but there's no 'u' in the official programme (or should that be program) title.
Nov 23, 2011, 11:16 am
#299
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You can request it spelt like that on your card etc if residing in the UK to prevent home-sickness when travelling abroad.
Nov 23, 2011, 12:00 pm
#300
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSYwP...e_gdata_player
I'll leave the spelling as it is if that's OK, as I am a man and therefore cannot admit my own mistakes