Aug 16, 2013, 8:51 am
Last edit by: FinalBoarding
An “official POUG” is defined (for the purposes of this wiki) as the rate that appears in red on the MMB/BA app. It is NOT the rate offered at the airport (please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...ng-thread.html), or the rate offered when you click on the “Upgrade my class of travel with money” link from within MMB, or the “Upgrade to the next available cabin” blue/grey banner in the app.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- All POUGs earn full TPs and Avios for the upgraded cabin, subject to the original booking being paid for with cash.
- POUGs *ARE* offered on Hand-Baggage Only fares, if available
- POUGs only become available after 48 hours of making your booking, until any time up to, and including OLCI. After being checked in you will not be offered a POUG.
- POUGs do not seem to become available for travel agent bookings, until 2-3 days before departure (YMMV)
- POUGs cannot be requested from Service Centres, except that occasionally BA.com will not proceed with a POUG online and display a message inviting you to call the Service Centre to complete the transaction.
- After a POUG has been purchased, the ticket become non changeable and non refundable, apart from government taxes.
Please add to this list as required, and include the month/year when the POUG is offered to you.
LON to Europe from ET to CE (typically £59-£69 for Band 1, £69-£79 for Band 2, £79-£89 for Band 3 and £89-£99 for Band 4):
- ACE - £105
- AGP – £79 (£99/€119 Dec 2014)
- AMS - £69 / £56 (£99 from HBO in Nov 2014)
- ATH - £99 (£109 from HBO in Oct 2014)
- ARN – £72
- BCN – £79 (£89 for Silver/Bronze and £114 for HBO Blue Dec 2014 - same fight, two bookings) // Blue Feb 2015 - LGW - BCN - £89 / BCN to LHR £115)
- BGO – £64 (£79 for HBO in SEP2014)
- BRI - £119 / €144 (Dec 2014)
- BRU - £69
- BSL - CHF 85 for BSL-LHR (£55 at then exchange rate) (CHF120 in Dec 2014)
- BUD - £79 (£89 and £105 Dec 2014)
- CDG - £69 (£75 Dec 2014; CDG-LHR €115 Dec 2014)
- CMF - £69 (Dec 2014)
- CPH - £79 (£129 from HBO Nov 2014)
- CTA - £119/€144 (both Dec 2014)
- DBV – £79
- DUB – £69/£56 (£99 from HBO Nov 2014, £80 Dec 2014)
- DUS – £69
- FCO - £170 (Dec 14)
- FRA – £69
- GIB - £72 (£140 Dec 14)
- GOT – £79
- GVA - £79/£89
- HAJ – £69
- HAM – £69
- HEL – £89
- INN – £89 out / €109 back (Dec 14)
- IST – £89
- JER – £69
- KBP - £80 / USD 129 (BA is not currently accepting Ukrainian currency)
- LCA – £89 (£190 Dec 2014 from LCA; separately £134 to LCA Dec 2014)
- LIN – £79
- LIS – £79 (£119 offered Nov 14, £99 and £145 Dec 14)
- LUX - £69
- MAD - £79
- MAH - £69
- MUC - £79
- MXP - £119 (€89 MXP - LHR)
- NCE - £140 (each way, 21/DEC/14)
- ORY - £69
- OSL - £79 (£64/640 NOK reported)
- OTP - £79/€89
- PMI - £69 (Dec 2014)
- PRG – £79
- PSA - £79
- SZG - £114 (Nov 2015)
- SOF - £89
- STR – £69
- TIA – £89 (£99 offered Dec 14 for TIA-LGW) (€119 TIA-LGW Dec 2014)
- TRN – £79
- TXL – £69
- VCE – £79
- VIE – £79 [£129 as of Nov14! GBP99 LHR-VIE + GBP99 VIE-LHR Nov14]
- VRN- €139 (~£110) Nov 2014 - £89 / €109 Dec 2014
- WAW – £69 (£110 Dec 14)
- ZAG – £79
- ZRH – £79 (£87 (CHF135) for ZRH-LHR): LCY-ZRH + v.v. £69 (offered 11/14)
LON to North America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- ATL - WTP £189
- BOS – WTP £189 (mid-2014) £219 (December 2014)
- IAD - WTP £157
- JFK/EWR – WTP £189 (can be as low as £133) / CW £443 / F £527 (F £599 02/08)
- LAS - WTP £180
- LAX – WTP £229 / CW £599 (CW £548 Jan 2015)
- MCO– WTP £180
- MEX – F £447/£525 / £229 WT-WTP (November 28 2015)/ 4640 MXN WT-WTP (December 14 2015)
- MIA – WTP £209 / CW £525
- ORD – WTP £171 / CW £525 / F £499
- PHL – WTP £189
- SAN – CW £599
- SEA – WTP £199
- SFO – WTP £170
- YYZ – WTP £171 (return leg) / CW £425 / F £499
- YYC - WTP £134
- YVR – WTP £175 / CW £350
LON to South America (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- EZE – WTP £199
- GRU – WTP £209 / F £499 / WT to CW £699
- GIG - WT to CW £699
LON to Asia (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- BKK - WTP £126-£140 / CW £549 / F £
- BOM - WTP £ / CW £450 / F £
- DEL - F £499, subsequently reduced to £400
- HKG – WTP £199 (offered £172 for a Nov 2014 flight) / CW £599 / F £599
- NRT - WTP £199 / CW £ / F £525
- ICN - CW £499
- SIN - WTP SGD$320
LON to Australia and Oceania (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD – WTP £170 / CW £399
LON to Africa & Middle East (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- AUH – F £499
- CAI - WTP £121
- DXB – WTP £179 / F £499
- EBB - WTP £142
- JNB - WTP £209
- NBO - WTP £189
Non-LON routes (price shown from lower cabin to mentioned cabin, e.g. WTP means price to POUG from WT to WTP):
- SYD-SIN – F £465
- AMS-LGW - CE €79
- BCN-LHR - CE £64
- BRU-LHR - CE £105 (12.2014)
- CDG-LHR - CE €79
- DUB-LHR - CE €109 (£85.70-ish) from HBO booked 05.12.14, offered 08.12.14
- BOM-LHR - F cINR40,000 (c£395)
- JNB-LHR WTP - £189
- TLV-LHR - F $600 (c£370)
Pro-active Upgrade cost tracking and questions thread
Aug 29, 2013, 4:16 pm
#2311
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It is a work booking in J, so I am interested to see if there are any upgrade offers to F. I suspect that the booking is a little too complicated for POUG, even before using a TA rather than directly with BA.
Aug 29, 2013, 5:02 pm
#2312
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Flew this last year in aug 2012. 2 adults 2 kids , we had managed to find some fairly cheap WTP seats, and then a POUG offer came up £399 to CW , whicj we took!! They also offered us this offer on the return journey to LHR. All in all think i paid around £7k for 4 CW returns to SIN
Aug 30, 2013, 4:43 am
#2313
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Phoned up BA just now to upgrade myself from WT to WT+ on the LHR-LAX outbound and it cost £213. Says £223 online so not bad.
THe inbound costs £113 online but seems to be £147 on the phone. Still contemplating that but at present, I've a window seat back in the mini cabin which may or may not turn out to be a decent seat choice.
WT+ on the outbound has filled a lot since yesterday when I checked the seatmap. Most of the left hand side is now full or has a few people grabbing the window seats.
They did stick me in a middle centre seat but I've moved myself to the right hand side in a window seat.
At least I'll hit my required 1500TP after my flight into SJU
No further MFU opportunites but then again, in the last 2 years, I haven't had one flight where WT+ to CW was possible with Avios.
THe inbound costs £113 online but seems to be £147 on the phone. Still contemplating that but at present, I've a window seat back in the mini cabin which may or may not turn out to be a decent seat choice.
WT+ on the outbound has filled a lot since yesterday when I checked the seatmap. Most of the left hand side is now full or has a few people grabbing the window seats.
They did stick me in a middle centre seat but I've moved myself to the right hand side in a window seat.
At least I'll hit my required 1500TP after my flight into SJU
No further MFU opportunites but then again, in the last 2 years, I haven't had one flight where WT+ to CW was possible with Avios.
Sep 2, 2013, 5:58 am
#2314
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Flew this last year in aug 2012. 2 adults 2 kids , we had managed to find some fairly cheap WTP seats, and then a POUG offer came up £399 to CW , whicj we took!! They also offered us this offer on the return journey to LHR. All in all think i paid around £7k for 4 CW returns to SIN
Sep 2, 2013, 3:24 pm
#2315
Join Date: Feb 2013
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Just booked for LHR-HEL-LHR for end of October. I booked ET hoping to get offer to upgrade but going into Manage My Booking they are only offering the return back to LHR at £89 and outbound at £181. Is it possible a better offer for the outbound will appear later? The wording seems misleading, I'm concerned that if I select "I do not wish to upgrade this flight" for the outbound, it won't give me the better offer at a later date as I've told the system I don't want to upgrade!
I'm wanting the 160 TP's so was kind of prepared to book CE straight off, just hoped I could save a few quid!
I'm wanting the 160 TP's so was kind of prepared to book CE straight off, just hoped I could save a few quid!
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Sep 2, 2013, 4:05 pm
#2316
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Just booked for LHR-HEL-LHR for end of October. I booked ET hoping to get offer to upgrade but going into Manage My Booking they are only offering the return back to LHR at £89 and outbound at £181. Is it possible a better offer for the outbound will appear later? The wording seems misleading, I'm concerned that if I select "I do not wish to upgrade this flight" for the outbound, it won't give me the better offer at a later date as I've told the system I don't want to upgrade!
I'm wanting the 160 TP's so was kind of prepared to book CE straight off, just hoped I could save a few quid!
I'm wanting the 160 TP's so was kind of prepared to book CE straight off, just hoped I could save a few quid!
Though I have never tried to upgrade only one way, or any way for that matter
Sep 3, 2013, 2:13 am
#2317
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Yeah you are probably right!
I've now upgraded it via the iPhone app as looks at each flight individually. Just hope to get an outbound offer now.
I've now upgraded it via the iPhone app as looks at each flight individually. Just hope to get an outbound offer now.
Sep 3, 2013, 3:21 am
#2318
Join Date: Apr 2013
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Where do you ask for an in airport upgrade @ T5? At the check in desk or in the lounge?
Flying to LAS (WT) open jaw (return from SFO), so can't upgrade online and over the phone is damn expensive.
I imagine the chances of getting a paid upgrade to LAS are slim, being a popular route. But might as well try...
Flying to LAS (WT) open jaw (return from SFO), so can't upgrade online and over the phone is damn expensive.
I imagine the chances of getting a paid upgrade to LAS are slim, being a popular route. But might as well try...
Sep 3, 2013, 3:28 am
#2319
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Sep 3, 2013, 3:31 am
#2320
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Thanks mate. WT+ is pretty full so I guess it's unlikely.
Is it true you can wave the £100 change fee when phoning up because its not available online?
Is it true you can wave the £100 change fee when phoning up because its not available online?
Sep 3, 2013, 6:55 am
#2321
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Appreciate the orderliness of the chart at the top.
Can we get SIN-SYD added - Please.
Happy wandering
Fred
Can we get SIN-SYD added - Please.
Happy wandering
Fred
Sep 3, 2013, 6:57 am
#2322
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The change fee will be payable regardless on a paid ticket.
You may be confusing this with the fact you can get them to waive telephone fees for things which cannot be done online.
Sep 3, 2013, 8:45 am
#2323
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Anyone know any other non-LON routes?
Sep 4, 2013, 3:06 am
#2324
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Not sure how to edit the wiki
Last week 2 days before OLCI opened up Shanghai (PVG) to London (LHR) they had an upgrade offer of £521 from WT+ to CW.
Incidentally when I checked in at the airport they were offereing £200 cash to downgrade to WT+ - bit of a joke really.
Last week 2 days before OLCI opened up Shanghai (PVG) to London (LHR) they had an upgrade offer of £521 from WT+ to CW.
Incidentally when I checked in at the airport they were offereing £200 cash to downgrade to WT+ - bit of a joke really.