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pensguin68 Nov 17, 2009 7:14 am

I'm just trying to figure out if it is worth doing something with my BMI miles. Only have 8,000 and from what I can tell, while it is possible to fly using so few miles, the taxes and fees don't make it worthwhile. Is it ever possible to book a flight with miles on BMI without being hit hard by taxes and fees?

baggageinhall Nov 17, 2009 9:54 am


Originally Posted by ChinsTTS (Post 12832807)
Not many posts on here so please go easy. Didnt know if I should create a seperate post.

Think I have managed to work the ANA tool ok and the issues could be down to the fact that I want to travel with the family (4 of us). Have a few questions

We are looking to go to the West Coast of the USA in August next year for a couple of weeks (Open on dates as we speak). Leaving from London. Ideally I wanted us to fly in Business, but all I can find is Economy or First. Why can I find 4 First Class seats and no Business seats to LAX? Do I have to route via Frankfurt to make it happen? What is a rough guide to the tax and how could I look that info up?

The dream would of been to go to Australia next December, but getting four of us sorted seems to be impossible when I look for reward flights (tried the exercise in Feb before this year?

Cheers

Jonathan

1. Flights to LA - Swiss has 4 seats in Business class ZRH-LAX on 10,11,12,13,14 August

2. From LA - Swiss has 4 seats in Business LAX-ZRH on 23,24,25,26,28, 29 August.

Tax - £353 per person (you can either use the ITA website or price up a regular flight on the particular airline's website. It will show the fare and tax elements separately).

I looked at random dates to give you an idea as to availability. Feel free to PM your exact dates and I will look again.

Australia - When using the ANA tool, click 'select transit city' and type in ICN. The ANA tool will then look for seats on Asiana via Seoul. I managed to get 3 seats in Business for September 2010 and there are still 3 more available. The return journey involves a night in Seoul or you could try and find seats on UA via SFO or LAX though I appreciate that this is more difficult during the holiday season.

Oxon Flyer Nov 17, 2009 10:05 am


Originally Posted by baggageinhall (Post 12834011)
Australia - When using the ANA tool, click 'select transit city' and type in ICN. The ANA tool will then look for seats on Asiana via Seoul.

Just a further hint on this : Asiana only flies between LHR/ICN and ICN/SYD on selected days of the week, and if you specifiy either an outward or return day on which its doesn't fly, then ANA just says no, which can get a bit frustrating. So either look for the sectors separately, or else go in armed with a knowledge of which days this route flies.

baggageinhall Nov 17, 2009 11:29 am


Originally Posted by Oxon Flyer (Post 12834077)
Just a further hint on this : Asiana only flies between LHR/ICN and ICN/SYD on selected days of the week, and if you specifiy either an outward or return day on which its doesn't fly, then ANA just says no, which can get a bit frustrating. So either look for the sectors separately, or else go in armed with a knowledge of which days this route flies.

Quite. I forgot to add just how frustrating this is! To save you from having to use the frankly abysmal Asiana website:

LHR-ICN-SYD : Tuesday / Thursday / Saturday / Sunday
(Overnight to ICN and then another overnight to SYD - 3/4 connection)

SYD-ICN-LHR : Tuesday / Thursday / Saturday / Sunday
(Arrive at ICN at 18:45, the flight to LHR is the following day at 13:30 so a 19 hour overnight layover - on a paid ticket, Asiana offer a hotel for the night. No idea if they do the same on an award ticket, no doubt someone on here will know)

jbfield Nov 17, 2009 1:11 pm


Originally Posted by baggageinhall (Post 12834724)
Quite. I forgot to add just how frustrating this is! To save you from having to use the frankly abysmal Asiana website:

LHR-ICN-SYD : Tuesday / Thursday / Saturday / Sunday
(Overnight to ICN and then another overnight to SYD - 3/4 connection)

SYD-ICN-LHR : Tuesday / Thursday / Saturday / Sunday
(Arrive at ICN at 18:45, the flight to LHR is the following day at 13:30 so a 19 hour overnight layover - on a paid ticket, Asiana offer a hotel for the night. No idea if they do the same on an award ticket, no doubt someone on here will know)

This is what you need:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/asian...tions-icn.html
this post in particular -> http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12133382-post25.html

eagle21 Nov 17, 2009 10:48 pm

Oz to Europe in C - help!
 
Looking for J seats OW from, BNE,SYD,OOL,AKL to anywhere in Europe departing anytime from 02/01/10 and arriving by end of 08/01/10 latest. I am having lots of trouble finding availability, any ideas.

Thanks

flytofly Nov 18, 2009 12:23 am

Hi, this is the only connection that I can find at the moment.
Surely, this is not the best routing. Just for your info.


3 Jan Syd (16:30) BKK(22:00) TG 458
(Overnight stay in BKK)
4 Jan BKK(17:30) DXB(21:40) TG 6517

5 Jan DXB(0450) CAI(0655) MS 911

5 Jan CAI(11:25) MXP(14:30) MS 703

This way you can arrive at Malpensa(Milano).

Hope it helps.



Originally Posted by eagle21 (Post 12838716)
Looking for J seats OW from, BNE,SYD,OOL,AKL to anywhere in Europe departing anytime from 02/01/10 and arriving by end of 08/01/10 latest. I am having lots of trouble finding availability, any ideas.

Thanks


ChinsTTS Nov 18, 2009 3:07 am

Thanks for all the help.

Still dont understand why I cant fly United direct. They dont seem to offer the business class seat on their direct flight to LAX, but I can have four of their First class? Surely the wrong way round.

denCSA Nov 18, 2009 11:04 am


Originally Posted by eagle21 (Post 12838716)
Looking for J seats OW from, BNE,SYD,OOL,AKL to anywhere in Europe departing anytime from 02/01/10 and arriving by end of 08/01/10 latest. I am having lots of trouble finding availability, any ideas.

Thanks

There's availability on 1FEB10 on TG from SYD to LHR:

Code:

** BMI - AD ** LHR HEATHROW.GB                                74 MO 01FEB 0000
 4  TG 456  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    1000    1520  E0/777         
    TG 910  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  0015+1  0620+1E0/744      31:20
 1  TG 458  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    1630    2200  E0/346         
    TG 910  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  0015+1  0620+1E0/744      24:50
 6  TG 452  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    2145    0315+1E0/346         
    TG 916  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  1330+1  1935+1E0/744      32:50

Or you can mix CA and LH to FRA:

Code:

2  CA 174  I2                    SYD 1 PEK 3  2100    0550+1E0.330         
    LH 721  I9                  /PEK 3 FRA 1  1130+1  1445+1E0/744      27:45
3  CA 174  I2                    SYD 1 PEK 3  2100    0550+1E0.330         
    CA 931  IL                    PEK 3 FRA 1  1405+1  1720+1E0.74E      30:20
4  TG 452  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    2145    0315+1E0/346         
    TG 922  I2                  /BKK  FRA 1  1315+1  1905+1E0/744      31:20

And for the return I used 31JUL10 and there's availability out of LHR on SQ no less:

Code:

4  LH4743  I6                  /LHR 1 FRA 1  0630    0905  E0/321         
    SQ 025  I1                  /FRA 1 SIN    1235    0635+1E0.744         
    SQ 219  I2                  /SIN 3 SYD 1  0925+1  1855+1E0.773      27:25
 5  LH4743  I6                  /LHR 1 FRA 1  0630    0905  E0/321         
    TG 921  I2                  /FRA 1 BKK    1500    0640+1E0/744         
    TG 451  I2                  /BKK  SYD 1  0800+1  2000+1E0/346      28:30

Or out of FRA:

Code:

2  SQ 025  I1                  /FRA 1 SIN    1235    0635+1E0.744         
    SQ 219  I2                  /SIN 3 SYD 1  0925+1  1855+1E0.773      22:20
** BMI - AD ** SYD SYDNEY.AUNS                              255 SA 31JUL 0000
 1  TG 921  I2                  /FRA 1 BKK    1500    0640+1E0/744         
    TG 451  I2                  /BKK  SYD 1  0800+1  2000+1E0/346      21:00
 2  LH 720  IL                  /FRA 1 PEK 3  1720    0830+1E0/744         
    CA 175  I4                    PEK 3 SYD 1  1535+1  0900+2E1.330      31:40
 3UA:CO6055  J9 C9 D9 Z0          /FRA 1 SFO I  1725    1953  E0/777         
    UA 863  I0                  /SFO I SYD 1  2243    0625+2E0.744      29:00
 4  UA 927  I0                  /FRA 1 SFO I  1725    1953  E0.777         
    UA 863  I0                  /SFO I SYD 1  2243    0625+2E0.744      29:00
 5  LH 728  I8                  /FRA 1 PVG 2  1730    0955+1E0/744         
    CA 175  I4                    PVG 2 SYD 1  1915+1  0900+2E0.330      31:30


bombo Nov 19, 2009 4:11 am


Originally Posted by denCSA (Post 12841471)
There's availability on 1FEB10 on TG from SYD to LHR:

Code:

** BMI - AD ** LHR HEATHROW.GB                                74 MO 01FEB 0000
 4  TG 456  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    1000    1520  E0/777         
    TG 910  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  0015+1  0620+1E0/744      31:20
 1  TG 458  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    1630    2200  E0/346         
    TG 910  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  0015+1  0620+1E0/744      24:50
 6  TG 452  I2                  /SYD 1 BKK    2145    0315+1E0/346         
    TG 916  I2                  /BKK  LHR 3  1330+1  1935+1E0/744      32:50

[/CODE]

I think we need a world standard for dates don't you?

baggageinhall Nov 19, 2009 4:33 am


Originally Posted by ChinsTTS (Post 12839413)
Thanks for all the help.

Still dont understand why I cant fly United direct. They dont seem to offer the business class seat on their direct flight to LAX, but I can have four of their First class? Surely the wrong way round.

Not really. Others have just beaten you to the seats in Business Class. Like you, they didn't have sufficient miles to fly First.

Alt Nov 23, 2009 6:23 am

Help with Redemption
 
I hope you kind people can also help me :)

Planning a possible (first ever :))redemption LHR-SAT leaving 23 or 24 Dec and returning 04 or 05 Jan.

I have used the ANA tool and have found it only gives me one option of 23/12 CO035/CO1079 - 05/01 CO678/CO004 in C. Now this is an ok itinerary but is it really the only option?

More importantly, if I use the CO redemption site to check this itinerary, the tax/charges payable is $212.20 but according to ICC it will cost me GBP282? Is this difference of over twice the CO charge really correct :confused:

Cheers

FlyingOnceMore Nov 23, 2009 8:32 am

Welcome to FT!

If you can find suitable flights around Xmas/NewYear this late, take them ASAP. £282 is correct (See below)



Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: United Kingdom Air Passengers Duty £90.00
Tax: United Kingdom Passenger Service Charge £21.20
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $16.10
Tax: US International Departure Tax $16.10
Tax: CO YQ surcharge £137.00
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $7.50
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $3.00

flo_147 Nov 23, 2009 4:02 pm

Lx f zrh-jfk
 
Hello,

I am looking for two F class seats from ZRH-JFK or JFK-ZRH the week before x-mas (about 4-5 nights). Would be really kind if someone can look for availability ;)

best regards,
flo

jclover213 Nov 28, 2009 2:47 pm

Does anyone know if Thai only releases two seats in C for LHR - BKK? Throughout July and August this is all I can find each day. Same with BKK - CMB. :(


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