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YorkieFlyer Sep 21, 2011 7:34 am
Originally Posted by raikje (Post 17145479)
I forget that MAN exists:D
Hello, yes here we are! MAN only the biggest/busiest UK airport outside LON:D

Globalist Sep 22, 2011 2:55 am
friends,
can I ask your help for alternatives as I am having no luck on the ANA tool

I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).

Globalist

Globalist Sep 25, 2011 1:27 am
Originally Posted by Globalist (Post 17152653)
friends,
can I ask your help for alternatives as I am having no luck on the ANA tool

I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).

Globalist
Anyone with better insights than me, and/or with other tools than ANA could offer a solution? It is for 2 pax.

Thanks,
Globalist

belfordrocks Sep 25, 2011 4:09 am
Continental.com or Aeroplan both work- but ANA is the best.

kerosundae2 Sep 25, 2011 5:14 am
Either I'm unlucky or am crap at using the ANA tool, so can someone help me find a flight from Paris to Shanghai, Beijing or Shenyang any day the week of Oct 3rd? Thanks!!

Oxon Flyer Sep 25, 2011 5:27 am
Originally Posted by kerosundae2 (Post 17168666)
Either I'm unlucky or am crap at using the ANA tool, so can someone help me find a flight from Paris to Shanghai, Beijing or Shenyang any day the week of Oct 3rd? Thanks!!
There's loads.

Examples from ANA :
10/3 (MO) LH1035 Paris(CDG) Frankfurt 14:00 15:10 321 10/3
10/3 (MO) LH720 Frankfurt Beijing 17:20 08:30 +1 388
Seats in economy and business. Note the 388.

10/3 (MO) LH1041 Paris(CDG) Frankfurt 17:45 18:55 321
10/3(MO) CA932 Frankfurt Beijing 20:15 11:35+1 773
Seats in Business

10/4 (TU) TK1828 Paris(CDG) Istanbul(IST) 17:35 22:10 321
10/4 (TU) TK020 Istanbul(IST) Beijing 23:45 14:00+1 330
Seats in Business

10/4 (TU) TK1828 Paris(CDG) Istanbul(IST) 17:35 22:10 321
10/4(TU) TK026 Istanbul(IST) Shanghai(Pudong) 23:40 15:05+1 77W
Seats in business

10/4 (TU) LX633 Paris(CDG) Zurich 09:50 11:10 321
10/4 (TU) LX188 Zurich Shanghai(Pudong) 12:55 06:55+1 343
Seats in business and LX F


Helps to use the "Transit Point" to nudge ANA into providing connecting routes, try FRA (for LH), IST (TK) and ZRH (LX).

KVS Sep 25, 2011 10:11 am
Originally Posted by Globalist (Post 17152653)
I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).
Originally Posted by Globalist (Post 17168296)
Anyone with better insights than me, and/or with other tools than ANA could offer a solution? It is for 2 pax.
Given such an inflexible itinerary, Y is the best that the engines can come up with:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.5.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
FRI  21 Oct 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
SQ        346    SIN  01:20    ZRH  08:00    388  0  YS+
 -> LX    734    ZRH  17:30    AMS  19:05    321  0  YS+
SQ        326    SIN  13:55    FRA  20:40    77W  0  YS+
 -> LH    986    FRA  07:55 +1  AMS  09:00 +1  735  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    986    FRA  07:55 +1  AMS  09:00 +1  735  0  CS+  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    988    FRA  08:55 +1  AMS  10:00 +1  321  0  CS+  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    990    FRA  11:05 +1  AMS  12:10 +1  319  0  CS+  YS+
SQ        328    SIN  23:05    MUC  05:35 +1  77W  0  YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2302    MUC  09:00 +1  AMS  10:30 +1  E95  0  CS+  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    992    FRA  13:10 +1  AMS  14:15 +1  319  0  YS+
SQ        328    SIN  23:05    MUC  05:35 +1  77W  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15 +1  AMS  12:45 +1  E95  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    996    FRA  16:45 +1  AMS  17:50 +1  320  0  YS+
SQ        328    SIN  23:05    MUC  05:35 +1  77W  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2306    MUC  15:15 +1  AMS  16:45 +1  CR9  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    998    FRA  18:15 +1  AMS  19:20 +1  735  0  YS+
SQ        346    SIN  01:20    ZRH  08:00    388  0  YS+
 -> LH    1185    ZRH  09:20    FRA  10:25    321  0  YS+
 -> LH    990    FRA  11:30    AMS  12:35    319  0  YS+
SQ        346    SIN  01:20    ZRH  08:00    388  0  YS+
 -> LH    2367    ZRH  09:10    MUC  10:05    319  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15    AMS  12:45    E95  0  YS+
SQ        970    SIN  07:10    BKK  08:35    772  0  CS+
 -> TG    924    BKK  13:25    MUC  19:50    744  0  FS+
 -> LH/CL  2312    MUC  20:50    AMS  22:20    E95  0  YS+
SQ        308    SIN  09:05    LHR  15:30    77W  0  YS+
 -> LH    911    LHR  17:05    FRA  19:35    320  0  YS+
 -> LH    1002    FRA  21:10    AMS  22:15    320  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    98      FRA  06:45 +1  MUC  07:40 +1  319  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2302    MUC  09:00 +1  AMS  10:30 +1  E95  0  CS+  YS+
SQ        328    SIN  23:05    MUC  05:35 +1  77W  0  YS+
 -> LH    99      MUC  06:10 +1  FRA  07:15 +1  321  0  YS+
 -> LH    988    FRA  08:55 +1  AMS  10:00 +1  321  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    100    FRA  07:40 +1  MUC  08:35 +1  319  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15 +1  AMS  12:45 +1  E95  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    102    FRA  08:15 +1  MUC  09:10 +1  320  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15 +1  AMS  12:45 +1  E95  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    104    FRA  09:05 +1  MUC  10:00 +1  319  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15 +1  AMS  12:45 +1  E95  0  YS+
LH        779    SIN  23:05    FRA  05:35 +1  744  0  YS+
 -> LH    98      FRA  06:45 +1  MUC  07:40 +1  319  0  YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC  11:15 +1  AMS  12:45 +1  E95  0  YS+
[KVS Availability Tool 6.5.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
SAT  29 Oct 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LH/CL      2313    AMS  07:00    MUC  08:25    E95  0  YS+
 -> SQ    327    MUC  13:25    SIN  07:15 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH/CL      2303    AMS  11:05    MUC  12:30    E95  0  CS+  YS+
 -> SQ    327    MUC  13:25    SIN  07:15 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH/CL      2313    AMS  07:00    MUC  08:25    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    1854    MUC  09:05    MXP  10:15    319  0  YS+
 -> SQ    367    MXP  11:55    SIN  06:00 +1  77W  0  YS+
LX        737    AMS  07:05    ZRH  08:30    319  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LX/#S  1616    ZRH  09:40    MXP  10:35    AR1  0  CS+  YS+
 -> SQ    367    MXP  11:55    SIN  06:00 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH        1003    AMS  07:15    FRA  08:25    733  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    248    FRA  09:25    MXP  10:35    733  0  CS+  YS+
 -> SQ    367    MXP  11:55    SIN  06:00 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH        1003    AMS  07:15    FRA  08:25    733  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    106    FRA  10:05    MUC  11:00    319  0  CS+  YS+
 -> SQ    327    MUC  13:25    SIN  07:15 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH/EW      3335    AMS  08:35    HAM  09:30    CR9  0  CS+  YS+
 -> LH    2065    HAM  11:05    MUC  12:20    320  0  CS+  YS+
 -> SQ    327    MUC  13:25    SIN  07:15 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH        989    AMS  10:55    FRA  12:05    733  0  YS+
 -> LH    914    FRA  16:20    LHR  16:55    735  0  YS+
 -> SQ    319    LHR  18:30    SIN  14:20 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH        991    AMS  13:20    FRA  14:25    319  0  YS+
 -> LH    914    FRA  16:20    LHR  16:55    735  0  YS+
 -> SQ    319    LHR  18:30    SIN  14:20 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH        991    AMS  13:20    FRA  14:25    319  0  YS+
 -> LH    910    FRA  15:15    LHR  15:50    735  0  YS+
 -> SQ    319    LHR  18:30    SIN  14:20 +1  77W  0  YS+
LH/CL      2305    AMS  13:20    MUC  14:45    E95  0  YS+
 -> LH    2478    MUC  15:25    LHR  16:25    320  0  YS+
 -> SQ    319    LHR  18:30    SIN  14:20 +1  77W  0  YS+

rdmsmith Sep 26, 2011 5:44 am
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't get the ICC to book this for me, even though I can 'see' availability in KVS, EF and ANA, are bmi blocking this?

15 Nov 2011
HNL-SFO
CO1567
Dep 07:45
Arr 14:52
Class: Business (I)
Passengers: 1

Any suggestions warmly welcomed!

rdmsmith Sep 26, 2011 6:06 am
Originally Posted by rdmsmith (Post 17173662)
Maybe I'm doing something wrong....
BMI have since said they have a known issue with CO not showing them any redemption seats in J/F, on any of their flights. Apparently it usually shows something like I0 X9 but the systems are only returning X9, as though 'I' class isn't even offered on that flight.
Here's hoping it's a temporary glitch in the matrix!

KVS Sep 26, 2011 10:09 pm
Originally Posted by rdmsmith (Post 17173662)
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't get the ICC to book this for me, even though I can 'see' availability in KVS
Originally Posted by rdmsmith (Post 17173736)
BMI have since said they have a known issue with CO not showing them any redemption seats in J/F, on any of their flights. Apparently it usually shows something like I0 X9 but the systems are only returning X9, as though 'I' class isn't even offered on that flight.
Here's hoping it's a temporary glitch in the matrix!
A long-sell should take care of that: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

beardotravel Sep 27, 2011 4:19 am
Hi
I'm hoping someone can help me
I'm finally trying to redeem some of my DC miles for a trip to Thailand for Christmas
Ideally I'd like to head out on the 16/17Dec in Business. However there's no availability (out of MAN which is my preferred location) or any other UK airport - or through any main SE gateways HKG, SIN)
I've played around with the ANA tool for a while (thanks for the great sticky) and have come up with the following route

MAN - FRA - NRT - BKK

MCT at NRT seems fine (arrive 08.35 depart 10.45)

However would this be an allowable route from MAN to BKK..??

If anyone has any better ideas I'd be grateful!

Thanks

Dan

beardotravel Sep 27, 2011 4:32 am
Sorry

Just twigged I may be able to get from MXP to BKK on the 17th

Would then just need to pick up a cheap flight from MAN to MXP

Think it's ok to book to one ways on redemptions (MXP to BKK and BKK to MAN)?

Think the cost would be 40000miles x 2 = 80000 (plus taxes)..?

Sorry for the thick questions!

raikje Sep 27, 2011 5:18 am
Originally Posted by beardotravel (Post 17179941)
Think it's ok to book to one ways on redemptions (MXP to BKK and BKK to MAN)?

Think the cost would be 40000miles x 2 = 80000 (plus taxes)..?
Cost would be 120k for business (plus tax), or 60k + £405 + tax. That route is good because you miss the £150 APD. There is also the more complex MAN-MUC-ATH-BKK available in business, but then it's an extra stop, plus the extra £150. The only benefit is you're straight through on one ticket.

beardotravel Sep 27, 2011 6:15 am
Raikje - thanks - sorry you're quite right - missed the 1.5 business scale up factor from my calcs

Thanks for the other option via MUC/ATH

Looks like I can get a BA/Flybe codeshare for ~ £85 from MAN to MXP which would be cheaper than the £150 APD!
So that could be my best option (assuming MXP isn;t snowbound in Dec....)

Percy Pig Sep 27, 2011 7:29 am
After last december's heathrow nightmare I'm not sure I'd want the risk of a positioning flight in winter to save just £65... That extra protection of being one ticket might be worth it.


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