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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by raikje
I forget that MAN exists
Hello, yes here we are! MAN only the biggest/busiest UK airport outside LON
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 2:55 am
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friends,
can I ask your help for alternatives as I am having no luck on the ANA tool

I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).

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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 1:27 am
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Originally Posted by Globalist
friends,
can I ask your help for alternatives as I am having no luck on the ANA tool

I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).

Globalist
Anyone with better insights than me, and/or with other tools than ANA could offer a solution? It is for 2 pax.

Thanks,
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 4:09 am
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Continental.com or Aeroplan both work- but ANA is the best.
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Either I'm unlucky or am crap at using the ANA tool, so can someone help me find a flight from Paris to Shanghai, Beijing or Shenyang any day the week of Oct 3rd? Thanks!!
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Originally Posted by kerosundae2
Either I'm unlucky or am crap at using the ANA tool, so can someone help me find a flight from Paris to Shanghai, Beijing or Shenyang any day the week of Oct 3rd? Thanks!!
There's loads.

Examples from ANA :
10/3 (MO) LH1035 Paris(CDG) Frankfurt 14:00 15:10 321 10/3
10/3 (MO) LH720 Frankfurt Beijing 17:20 08:30 +1 388
Seats in economy and business. Note the 388.

10/3 (MO) LH1041 Paris(CDG) Frankfurt 17:45 18:55 321
10/3(MO) CA932 Frankfurt Beijing 20:15 11:35+1 773
Seats in Business

10/4 (TU) TK1828 Paris(CDG) Istanbul(IST) 17:35 22:10 321
10/4 (TU) TK020 Istanbul(IST) Beijing 23:45 14:00+1 330
Seats in Business

10/4 (TU) TK1828 Paris(CDG) Istanbul(IST) 17:35 22:10 321
10/4(TU) TK026 Istanbul(IST) Shanghai(Pudong) 23:40 15:05+1 77W
Seats in business

10/4 (TU) LX633 Paris(CDG) Zurich 09:50 11:10 321
10/4 (TU) LX188 Zurich Shanghai(Pudong) 12:55 06:55+1 343
Seats in business and LX F


Helps to use the "Transit Point" to nudge ANA into providing connecting routes, try FRA (for LH), IST (TK) and ZRH (LX).
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Old Sep 25, 2011 | 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by Globalist
I need to get from Singapore to Amsterdam with my better half.
Preferably in C or F. I do see the occasional Y option via Munich or Frankfurt.

Friday October 21st, departing after 8pm in SIN.
Returning on Saturday October 29th (landing on the Sunday at the latest).
Originally Posted by Globalist
Anyone with better insights than me, and/or with other tools than ANA could offer a solution? It is for 2 pax.
Given such an inflexible itinerary, Y is the best that the engines can come up with:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.5.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
FRI  21 Oct 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
SQ         346     SIN   01:20     ZRH   08:00     388  0   YS+
 -> LX     734     ZRH   17:30     AMS   19:05     321  0   YS+
SQ         326     SIN   13:55     FRA   20:40     77W  0   YS+
 -> LH     986     FRA   07:55 +1  AMS   09:00 +1  735  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     986     FRA   07:55 +1  AMS   09:00 +1  735  0   CS+  YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     988     FRA   08:55 +1  AMS   10:00 +1  321  0   CS+  YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     990     FRA   11:05 +1  AMS   12:10 +1  319  0   CS+  YS+
SQ         328     SIN   23:05     MUC   05:35 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2302    MUC   09:00 +1  AMS   10:30 +1  E95  0   CS+  YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     992     FRA   13:10 +1  AMS   14:15 +1  319  0   YS+
SQ         328     SIN   23:05     MUC   05:35 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15 +1  AMS   12:45 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     996     FRA   16:45 +1  AMS   17:50 +1  320  0   YS+
SQ         328     SIN   23:05     MUC   05:35 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2306    MUC   15:15 +1  AMS   16:45 +1  CR9  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     998     FRA   18:15 +1  AMS   19:20 +1  735  0   YS+
SQ         346     SIN   01:20     ZRH   08:00     388  0   YS+
 -> LH     1185    ZRH   09:20     FRA   10:25     321  0   YS+
 -> LH     990     FRA   11:30     AMS   12:35     319  0   YS+
SQ         346     SIN   01:20     ZRH   08:00     388  0   YS+
 -> LH     2367    ZRH   09:10     MUC   10:05     319  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15     AMS   12:45     E95  0   YS+
SQ         970     SIN   07:10     BKK   08:35     772  0   CS+
 -> TG     924     BKK   13:25     MUC   19:50     744  0   FS+
 -> LH/CL  2312    MUC   20:50     AMS   22:20     E95  0   YS+
SQ         308     SIN   09:05     LHR   15:30     77W  0   YS+
 -> LH     911     LHR   17:05     FRA   19:35     320  0   YS+
 -> LH     1002    FRA   21:10     AMS   22:15     320  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     98      FRA   06:45 +1  MUC   07:40 +1  319  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH/IQ  2302    MUC   09:00 +1  AMS   10:30 +1  E95  0   CS+  YS+
SQ         328     SIN   23:05     MUC   05:35 +1  77W  0   YS+
 -> LH     99      MUC   06:10 +1  FRA   07:15 +1  321  0   YS+
 -> LH     988     FRA   08:55 +1  AMS   10:00 +1  321  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     100     FRA   07:40 +1  MUC   08:35 +1  319  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15 +1  AMS   12:45 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     102     FRA   08:15 +1  MUC   09:10 +1  320  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15 +1  AMS   12:45 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     104     FRA   09:05 +1  MUC   10:00 +1  319  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15 +1  AMS   12:45 +1  E95  0   YS+
LH         779     SIN   23:05     FRA   05:35 +1  744  0   YS+
 -> LH     98      FRA   06:45 +1  MUC   07:40 +1  319  0   YS+
 -> LH/CL  2304    MUC   11:15 +1  AMS   12:45 +1  E95  0   YS+
[KVS Availability Tool 6.5.1/Diamond - ITA: Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]
SAT  29 Oct 2011 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
LH/CL      2313    AMS   07:00     MUC   08:25     E95  0   YS+
 -> SQ     327     MUC   13:25     SIN   07:15 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH/CL      2303    AMS   11:05     MUC   12:30     E95  0   CS+  YS+
 -> SQ     327     MUC   13:25     SIN   07:15 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH/CL      2313    AMS   07:00     MUC   08:25     E95  0   YS+
 -> LH     1854    MUC   09:05     MXP   10:15     319  0   YS+
 -> SQ     367     MXP   11:55     SIN   06:00 +1  77W  0   YS+
LX         737     AMS   07:05     ZRH   08:30     319  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LX/#S  1616    ZRH   09:40     MXP   10:35     AR1  0   CS+  YS+
 -> SQ     367     MXP   11:55     SIN   06:00 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH         1003    AMS   07:15     FRA   08:25     733  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     248     FRA   09:25     MXP   10:35     733  0   CS+  YS+
 -> SQ     367     MXP   11:55     SIN   06:00 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH         1003    AMS   07:15     FRA   08:25     733  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     106     FRA   10:05     MUC   11:00     319  0   CS+  YS+
 -> SQ     327     MUC   13:25     SIN   07:15 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH/EW      3335    AMS   08:35     HAM   09:30     CR9  0   CS+  YS+
 -> LH     2065    HAM   11:05     MUC   12:20     320  0   CS+  YS+
 -> SQ     327     MUC   13:25     SIN   07:15 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH         989     AMS   10:55     FRA   12:05     733  0   YS+
 -> LH     914     FRA   16:20     LHR   16:55     735  0   YS+
 -> SQ     319     LHR   18:30     SIN   14:20 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH         991     AMS   13:20     FRA   14:25     319  0   YS+
 -> LH     914     FRA   16:20     LHR   16:55     735  0   YS+
 -> SQ     319     LHR   18:30     SIN   14:20 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH         991     AMS   13:20     FRA   14:25     319  0   YS+
 -> LH     910     FRA   15:15     LHR   15:50     735  0   YS+
 -> SQ     319     LHR   18:30     SIN   14:20 +1  77W  0   YS+
LH/CL      2305    AMS   13:20     MUC   14:45     E95  0   YS+
 -> LH     2478    MUC   15:25     LHR   16:25     320  0   YS+
 -> SQ     319     LHR   18:30     SIN   14:20 +1  77W  0   YS+
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 5:44 am
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Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't get the ICC to book this for me, even though I can 'see' availability in KVS, EF and ANA, are bmi blocking this?

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Arr 14:52
Class: Business (I)
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Any suggestions warmly welcomed!
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by rdmsmith
Maybe I'm doing something wrong....
BMI have since said they have a known issue with CO not showing them any redemption seats in J/F, on any of their flights. Apparently it usually shows something like I0 X9 but the systems are only returning X9, as though 'I' class isn't even offered on that flight.
Here's hoping it's a temporary glitch in the matrix!
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by rdmsmith
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, but I can't get the ICC to book this for me, even though I can 'see' availability in KVS
Originally Posted by rdmsmith
BMI have since said they have a known issue with CO not showing them any redemption seats in J/F, on any of their flights. Apparently it usually shows something like I0 X9 but the systems are only returning X9, as though 'I' class isn't even offered on that flight.
Here's hoping it's a temporary glitch in the matrix!
A long-sell should take care of that: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 4:19 am
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Hi
I'm hoping someone can help me
I'm finally trying to redeem some of my DC miles for a trip to Thailand for Christmas
Ideally I'd like to head out on the 16/17Dec in Business. However there's no availability (out of MAN which is my preferred location) or any other UK airport - or through any main SE gateways HKG, SIN)
I've played around with the ANA tool for a while (thanks for the great sticky) and have come up with the following route

MAN - FRA - NRT - BKK

MCT at NRT seems fine (arrive 08.35 depart 10.45)

However would this be an allowable route from MAN to BKK..??

If anyone has any better ideas I'd be grateful!

Thanks

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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 4:32 am
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Sorry

Just twigged I may be able to get from MXP to BKK on the 17th

Would then just need to pick up a cheap flight from MAN to MXP

Think it's ok to book to one ways on redemptions (MXP to BKK and BKK to MAN)?

Think the cost would be 40000miles x 2 = 80000 (plus taxes)..?

Sorry for the thick questions!
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 5:18 am
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Originally Posted by beardotravel
Think it's ok to book to one ways on redemptions (MXP to BKK and BKK to MAN)?

Think the cost would be 40000miles x 2 = 80000 (plus taxes)..?
Cost would be 120k for business (plus tax), or 60k + 405 + tax. That route is good because you miss the 150 APD. There is also the more complex MAN-MUC-ATH-BKK available in business, but then it's an extra stop, plus the extra 150. The only benefit is you're straight through on one ticket.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 6:15 am
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Raikje - thanks - sorry you're quite right - missed the 1.5 business scale up factor from my calcs

Thanks for the other option via MUC/ATH

Looks like I can get a BA/Flybe codeshare for ~ 85 from MAN to MXP which would be cheaper than the 150 APD!
So that could be my best option (assuming MXP isn;t snowbound in Dec....)
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After last december's heathrow nightmare I'm not sure I'd want the risk of a positioning flight in winter to save just 65... That extra protection of being one ticket might be worth it.
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