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Atlantico Apr 28, 2012 10:38 am


Originally Posted by louie-m (Post 18475375)
Did you ask them what would be a valid route?

The most direct was the only answer I got.... So I asked for an example.
Then they said it must be trough the US.... I found seats AKL-SYD-SFO-IHA-GRU. But also these was not valid.... Looks like they have any pressure from somewhere....


Originally Posted by HIDDY (Post 18475687)
They won't make exceptions just because seats are not available on the dates you want.
Start your trip in SYD and you'll be able to go to GRU routing via JNB.

Well I don't see what kind of exception that would be? RAR, AKL or SYD are on the same Zone... so don't get it why the route should not be allowed.

wheresmybagba Apr 28, 2012 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by Atlantico (Post 18476291)
Well I don't see what kind of exception that would be? RAR, AKL or SYD are on the same Zone... so don't get it why the route should not be allowed.

I don't know exactly how it works but there is such a thing as maximum permitted mileage - MPM.

RAR-GRU is 7006 miles.
RAR-AKL-PER-JNB-GRU is 14999 miles.

It wouldn't surprise me if your proposed itinerary falls foul of technical ticketing rules which require it to be ticketed as more than one ticket. You may simply have to accept that this itinerary won't work.

wheresmybagba Apr 28, 2012 4:27 pm


Originally Posted by HIDDY (Post 18475687)
They won't make exceptions just because seats are not available on the dates you want.
Start your trip in SYD and you'll be able to go to GRU routing via JNB.

How do you get from SYD to JNB? SYD-AKL-PER-JNB??

HIDDY Apr 28, 2012 5:21 pm


Originally Posted by wheresmybagba (Post 18477604)
How do you get from SYD to JNB? SYD-AKL-PER-JNB??

Yes I see the SAA flight is in fact a codeshare QF operated flight....looks like you're up a gum tree then.

Air Rarotonga Apr 28, 2012 6:35 pm


Originally Posted by rawilliam (Post 18473637)
I thought that this route from GRU to ZQN and back would be OK, but it was broken into subsections due to airlines not publishing fares.


gru-jnb-bom-bkk-akl-chc-zqn

openjaw

akl - kix - sfo

stopover

sfo - yyz- gru

They wanted 245K miles in business as opposed to 120k.

Hopefully they rejected it!

You did not really think they would approve this routing???

GRU-SFO is 6472 mi
GRU-IAH-SFO are 6537 mi
GRU-JNB-BOM-BKK-AKL-KIX-SFO are 27715 mi...

Did you ever try to get a ticket SFO-ORD via NRT-FRA-JFK for the price of a north american domestic one-way?

Atlantico Apr 29, 2012 1:27 am


Originally Posted by wheresmybagba (Post 18477593)
I don't know exactly how it works but there is such a thing as maximum permitted mileage - MPM.

RAR-GRU is 7006 miles.
RAR-AKL-PER-JNB-GRU is 14999 miles.

It wouldn't surprise me if your proposed itinerary falls foul of technical ticketing rules which require it to be ticketed as more than one ticket. You may simply have to accept that this itinerary won't work.

The point is that there aren't any routes going from Zone 9 to Zone 4.
So actually they should never publish that possibility. The only way to get from Zone 9 to Zone 4 is either trough the US or SA. And I agree the routing is not that direct.... however only OW is offering good connections. Such as PPT-SCL-GRU or SYD-SCL-GRU or AKL-SCL-GRU

Flying Bat Apr 29, 2012 9:36 am

Is this a valid route?
 
How about this?

PVG ( ICN ) MNL
stop
MNL SIN LHR

paulwelch101 Apr 29, 2012 7:53 pm

I'm wanting to book a redemption in business.

Is SYD -ICN (stopover) ICN - LHR a valid route with OZ?

Otherwise I have the choice of TG and SG, as I've been to both Bangkok and Singapore before, I'd prefer a stop over somewhere new!

Any comments about OZ welcome, I've not flown them before!

Thanks ;)

littlevoices Apr 30, 2012 12:21 am


Originally Posted by paulwelch101 (Post 18483076)
I'm wanting to book a redemption in business.

Is SYD -ICN (stopover) ICN - LHR a valid route with OZ?

Otherwise I have the choice of TG and SG, as I've been to both Bangkok and Singapore before, I'd prefer a stop over somewhere new!

Any comments about OZ welcome, I've not flown them before!

Thanks ;)

Yes, and you'll enjoy OZ - a very pleasant service (Asian standard, lots of personal attention) and in my experience better than TG, probably slightly worse than SQ but more personal. Seoul is also an interesting city to visit and I've really enjoyed myself in the wider Korea (depending on how long you'd like to stay for). The city has a lot of culture, then a tour of the DMZ is also a particularly unique experience - make sure that you choose a tour that includes the JSA.

Final tip - have a look on the OZ website around which flights from London are gaurenteed to have their new beds (not all of them are, at the moment), and check out the relevant forum on flyertalk for a discussion of those beds.

rawilliam May 5, 2012 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga (Post 18478097)
Hopefully they rejected it!

You did not really think they would approve this routing???

GRU-SFO is 6472 mi
GRU-IAH-SFO are 6537 mi
GRU-JNB-BOM-BKK-AKL-KIX-SFO are 27715 mi...

Did you ever try to get a ticket SFO-ORD via NRT-FRA-JFK for the price of a north american domestic one-way?

You are thinking of SFO as the outbound endpoint. Rather Queenstown was the outbound end point. The stop over in SFO could have been dispensed with. The problem was that the route has to be published by an airline, which I don't believe really should be a requirement.

rawilliam May 5, 2012 1:07 pm

My beef is that GRU-JNB-PER-AKL one-way is not permitted.

UncleDude May 8, 2012 5:53 am

Award Routing Advice
 
Before I enter the fray with ICC or UK-TCC could some kind DC expert advise if following is acceptable.

SIN/BKKx/RGN/BKKx/CEI based on one way area 7 to area 7 with Stopover in RGN

Many Thanks

sigma421 May 8, 2012 10:38 am

Does anyone think I'll be able to get EDI-LHR-LIS-BCN past ticketing? It's the most direct route I can think of now that LH are out of the equation.

onlysuites May 8, 2012 10:46 am


Originally Posted by sigma421 (Post 18536020)
Does anyone think I'll be able to get EDI-LHR-LIS-BCN past ticketing? It's the most direct route I can think of now that LH are out of the equation.

I have managed to get BCN-LIS-MAN before so yours is a very similar route with only a EDI segment added on.

onlysuites May 8, 2012 10:49 am


Originally Posted by UncleDude (Post 18534343)
Before I enter the fray with ICC or UK-TCC could some kind DC expert advise if following is acceptable.

SIN/BKKx/RGN/BKKx/CEI based on one way area 7 to area 7 with Stopover in RGN

Many Thanks

If you mean you wanna do BKK-RGN-BKK-CEI then you have no chance. They will not allow two same airports on a one way routing.


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